Day 1

## Starts 2023-09-02 5:00 p.m. (edited)

Day 1 Start @Alive Line NE

## Day ends 2023-09-04 5:00 p.m. or when hammer has been reached with 5 votes.

Top of the morning

Hi

again

5:00 p.m.

hi cait

True

5:00 p.m.

Hi Ngekop

Something townie

5:01 p.m.

FYI I’m not in the mood for this rn so I won’t be to active at sod

Why are you saying something townie Say something sus instead

I am also not in the mood for this rn lmao

Danger!? Luka!

FYI I’m not in the mood for this rn so I won’t be to active at sod

Same

Caitlin

Why are you saying something townie Say something sus instead

I’m mafia idk

Oh ok

Okay I’m gonna go read for a bit

first im town

Hi town

im town

hi caitlin

ok i think i need to say this bc luka has

Fun fact about Zenon's Law

fking 3 votes already

This doesn't trigger it

Thoughts on

Because it has to be a wagon with 4 different people

Putting Luka at L-1?

According to Abigail

I think it’d be pretty based

Then it does trigger!

@Alive Line NE there is maj today, so there is hammer

i did not see

Aw

hammer

Lame

this is so sad

5:02 p.m.

can we disable it D1

Rree

no

5:02 p.m.

we cant

I was gonna unvote once Sam voted

5:02 p.m.

Also I did assume it was disabled

Caitlin

Why are you saying something townie Say something sus instead

something sus

This still isnt 4 diff ppl

hence why i had to ping saying that

5:03 p.m.

lol

But I will unvote since this is getting risky

Danger!? Luka!

I’m mafia idk

Kill kill kill

you know what

5:03 p.m.

I'm bored

5:03 p.m.

I'm going to use a different playstyle

5:03 p.m.

ja

5:03 p.m.

i meant to say ha

Caitlin

Because it has to be a wagon with 4 different people

Fax

Ja = Dutch for Yes!

True!

5:03 p.m.

hm

5:03 p.m.

@Caitlin ok you get the options

5:03 p.m.

because I am bored

:o

5:03 p.m.

What are they

hold on

5:03 p.m.

I am thinking of them right now

Caitlin

Ja = Dutch for Yes!

dont use other languages pls

Caitlin

Ja = Dutch for Yes!

Jajajaja

☆Princess Abigail☆

Jajajaja

this is spanish

Ngekop

dont use other languages pls

I'm not the one that said ja

-_-

Caitlin

I'm not the one that said ja

sam did it by accident

But I didn't use Dutch next

I did it on purpose

I only said it's a Dutch word

Do I play either Alola Sunscreen Star Signs

5:04 p.m.

big questions

None

5:04 p.m.

You play Rain Code

sunscreen

oh

5:04 p.m.

good point

1 vote for sunscreen

5:04 p.m.

cait's vote will count as 3

5:05 p.m.

as she is mayor

Hhmm

Otherwise I vote Alola

5:05 p.m.

But my suggestion is better

5:05 p.m.

You fr stopped playing after cha0

Alola - 3 Sunscreen - 1

I'm going on a date at some point and this game means nothing to me than

chap 0

and yeah i did

Which is cringe

but i don't have my switch on me rn anyways yet

5:05 p.m.

but

5:05 p.m.

i could play it once i get back

You deserve to be D1'd due to that

oh

5:05 p.m.

true

☆Princess Abigail☆

I'm going on a date at some point and this game means nothing to me than

Coincidence me too

huh weird

Toof (Sam)

Do I play either Alola Sunscreen Star Signs

pokemon sun and moon refernece

There still isn't a wagon with 4 ppl

@☆Princess Abigail☆ whats your vote

☆Princess Abigail☆

I'm going on a date at some point and this game means nothing to me than

have fun

5:05 p.m.

luka is town

@Danger?! Icet! whats your vote

Yet we reached 3 multiple times

prolly

Toof (Sam)

@Danger?! Icet! whats your vote

on mafia

no

5:06 p.m.

for my playstyle

Caitlin

Coincidence me too

Weird very strange can't believe it

Im hammering anybody at l-1 d1

ok

Toof (Sam)

Do I play either Alola Sunscreen Star Signs

what does this mean

It was a lie you're right

Danger!? Luka!

Im hammering anybody at l-1 d1

Danger!? Luka!

Im hammering anybody at l-1 d1

same

Toof (Sam)

@☆Princess Abigail☆ whats your vote

It's on you

If nobody else votes by 5:30 then I am going with the most voted (Alola)

This isn't New TTAG

Danger?! Icet!

what does this mean

the different playstyles

5:06 p.m.

I will play

@kirigiri respond to Ngekop's DM

unless we're nearing eod

Danger?! Icet!

luka is town

Press X to doubt

Or you were forever be called Kirislowi

Danger!? Luka!

Im hammering anybody at l-1 d1

im voting anybody at l-2 d1

Caitlin

This isn't New TTAG

Just a threat so if anybody puts somebody at l-1 they’re pretty much voting them out

im voting anybody at l-3 d1

Danger!? Luka!

Im hammering anybody at l-1 d1

I love you Luka is town lol

What are the odds at least one of Luka/Icet is mafia

Danger?! Icet!

im voting anybody at l-2 d1

This doesn’t do the same thing as what I said tho

Toof (Sam)

the different playstyles

star signs sounds super funny is there tarot card action

☆Princess Abigail☆

I love you Luka is town lol

i'm voting anyboth at l-4 d1

5:07 p.m.

anybody

☆Princess Abigail☆

I love you Luka is town lol

Danger?! Icet!

star signs sounds super funny is there tarot card action

you will have to see

I'm voting anybody at L5 votes everyone

by voting it

5:07 p.m.

oh

5:07 p.m.

ok

5:07 p.m.

quick everybody

5:07 p.m.

if we hammer everyone at the same time

5:07 p.m.

nobody wins

5:07 p.m.

Omg

im voting star signs

Truly, genius

5:07 p.m.

ok

Caitlin

What are the odds at least one of Luka/Icet is mafia

33.333333%

Alola - 3 Star Signs - 1 Sunscreen - 1

5:08 p.m.

@☆Princess Abigail☆ @Danger!? Luka! vote

5:08 p.m.

very importa nt

meme phase too long

5:08 p.m.

already

☆Princess Abigail☆

33.333333%

Interesting

this is not a meme

stop voting like it's nothing

@Jal @IZinzanity im so sorry can we get a votecount I cant read

this is very important

Star signs I love stars

ok

Ngekop

stop voting like it's nothing

I’m not

luka is town

Ngekop

meme phase too long

I'd try to end it but

5:08 p.m.

I'm not up to play

Alola - 3 Star Signs - 2 Sunscreen - 1

Ngekop

luka is town

True

☆Princess Abigail☆

33.333333%

It's 100% Ice T who's mafia

cait who knows

abi

Danger!? Luka!

Star signs I love stars

twinies

i need a vote

5:08 p.m.

its very important

Toof (Sam)

@☆Princess Abigail☆ @Danger!? Luka! vote

Star Signs

Finally someone that counts no vote

Alola - 3 Star Signs - 3 Sunscreen - 1

Btw if you like reading read nowhere stars it’s honestly amazing

Ngekop

stop voting like it's nothing

No

I know I also only count it 10% of the time

☆Princess Abigail☆

It's 100% Ice T who's mafia

wrong

One of the best books I’ve ever read

But I still like it when the host does

Danger!? Luka!

Btw if you like reading read nowhere stars it’s honestly amazing

is it isekai or power creep

@Ngekop change your vote to alola or star signs then

I kinda think Abbi might be town btw

☆Princess Abigail☆

Star Signs

twinies

Toof (Sam)

@Ngekop change your vote to alola or star signs then

no

what the fuck

Caitlin

I kinda think Abbi might be town btw

why

Danger?! Icet!

wrong

I don't believe you

5:09 p.m.

https://nowherestars.net It’s so good actual 10/10

Anemone

Nowhere Stars | Magic needs darkness as stars need night.

A dark magical girl web novel about broken children twisting the world into whatever shape they must to make their dreams come true.

ok if nobody changes their vote then I'm playing sunscreen

She just feels genuine & how she usually does so far?

☆Princess Abigail☆

I don't believe you

Danger?! Icet!

is it isekai or power creep

No it’s magical girl

But I have never played against mafia Abbi

Caitlin

I kinda think Abbi might be town btw

Why?

I don't rlly count New TTAG because there I was hosting

Toof (Sam)

ok if nobody changes their vote then I'm playing sunscreen

why would i change it if i voted that

5:09 p.m.

lol

Danger!? Luka!

No it’s magical girl

But she's def an early slight town lean

☆Princess Abigail☆

Why?

I just explained sob

Danger!? Luka!

No it’s magical girl

So am I

TRUE

True!!!

I will

5:10 p.m.

hammer the vote at 5:154

5:10 p.m.

5:15

You're my fave magical girl

Caitlin

I just explained sob

I'm not caught up babes I'm sorry

Toof (Sam)

ok if nobody changes their vote then I'm playing sunscreen

I switch my vote

to

☆Princess Abigail☆

So am I

sunscreen or star signs

Star signs

kk

5:10 p.m.

Alola - Litten (Out a banger case d1 and then troll the rest of the game) Sunscreen - SPF (Towncore as quick as possible) Star Signs - Alexa (Get a few towns and then use massive AtE but also be so unbelievably unlynchable that mafia is forced to kill me)

I'm avoiding rocks

5:10 p.m.

I'm the anti Benny

Caitlin

You're my fave magical girl

I love you so fucking much

lame

Toof (Sam)

Alola - Litten (Out a banger case d1 and then troll the rest of the game) Sunscreen - SPF (Towncore as quick as possible) Star Signs - Alexa (Get a few towns and then use massive AtE but also be so unbelievably unlynchable that mafia is forced to kill me)

Oh

Toof (Sam)

Alola - Litten (Out a banger case d1 and then troll the rest of the game) Sunscreen - SPF (Towncore as quick as possible) Star Signs - Alexa (Get a few towns and then use massive AtE but also be so unbelievably unlynchable that mafia is forced to kill me)

ALEXA?!?

5:11 p.m.

Why didn't we vote

5:11 p.m.

Sunscreen

Hayyyy whats up girls

Caitlin

Why didn't we vote

i did

True

Danger?! Icet!

Click to see original message

i hate alexa

5:11 p.m.

so

I like Alexa

omg

5:11 p.m.

ty caitlin

5:11 p.m.

I really appreciate it

5:11 p.m.

Ngekop is being really mean rn

Np Alexa

5:11 p.m.

How is Anne

Like seriously he's disingenuine and mafia

I love alexa

i like sam

Caitlin

How is Anne

she's so cute

i hate alexa tho

Alexa (Sam)

Samlexa you shouldve done this in the past Ne44 game

And asked us all to vote Alola

Good point

So we 'd have 2 Litten's

BTW IceT TMId Luka town

5:12 p.m.

?

??

true

???

truwe

who wouldve alola been

5:12 p.m.

in ne44

Litten

5:12 p.m.

Oh

um

5:12 p.m.

Still litten

But for reala

like if any

5:13 p.m.

litten fr

And also for reals

But IceT

5:13 p.m.

Why did you call Luka town

self vote

ok

5:13 p.m.

you know what

I'm goated

alexa is really boring

5:13 p.m.

I'm picking Litten and you can't stop me

5:13 p.m.

Constantly switch

Toof (Sam)

I'm picking Litten and you can't stop me

W

oh wait

5:13 p.m.

that's a great idea

Toof (Sam)

I'm picking Litten and you can't stop me

good point Caitlin

Toof (Sam)

I'm picking Litten and you can't stop me

Fire kitty

I will be Litten until I find a mafia and then I will be um

5:14 p.m.

I'll be a secret fourth option

Danger?! Icet!

self vote

huge iq

ok

(I need to think of a fourth option brb)

Your fourth option

5:14 p.m.

Should be

5:14 p.m.

Someone in the game

5:14 p.m.

@Toof (Sam)

Good call

5:14 p.m.

Ok i know my fourth option

Sam once pretended to be in an alt game

Seriously I caught a wolf and Nge is voting me for it

And I figured it was him

☆Princess Abigail☆

Click to see original message

so then

Lulllll

I pretended to be him

Caitlin

Someone in the game

ME!!!! @Toof (Sam) @Toof (Sam) @Toof (Sam)

TRUE

5:14 p.m.

luka is cute

Danger?! Icet!

self vote

How is that townie

sigh

be luka

Caitlin

How is that townie

from luka it is

Caitlin

How is that townie

luka scum meta is a lot different

Luka is the best to ever do it

Ngekop

from luka it is

No lmao I’ve self voted as scum before d1 I literally did it last game

No

Caitlin

How is that townie

It's not

Luka ltierally

5:15 p.m.

Self voted as Godfather

thom and lindauna are the only ones

In NT 3

who havent talked

Danger!? Luka!

No lmao I’ve self voted as scum before d1 I literally did it last game

i know

5:15 p.m.

you see

5:15 p.m.

i wasnt here last game

still towny

I don't think Luka was aware of hammer on when they self voted

therefore null and invalid

Okay

☆Princess Abigail☆

I don't think Luka was aware of hammer on when they self voted

I was not no

i was

I’m still not changing my vote tho

100%

Ngekop still saying it might be more sus than IceT tho

IceTs read is fake

Luka can you quickly vote Abbi and unvote

5:16 p.m.

Because then we have a Zenon's Law

5:16 p.m.

That's very likely right

5:16 p.m.

!

5:16 p.m.

Bruh

Caitlin

Because then we have a Zenon's Law

when you start forcing it

Ngekop changed

it stops being smth that matters

5:16 p.m.

honestly

I've forced it to generate content before

5:16 p.m.

So

5:16 p.m.

Not really

I sadly discovered it doesn't

5:16 p.m.

Matter anyway

it does

It's real value is in content generation

I tried it on 100 games

5:17 p.m.

And I got an accuracy of...

5:17 p.m.

47%

...

whats zenon's law also ive never played with abi before but this is scum who got pressured from RVS and is omgussing

how is that a good accuracy

True

I just said

5:17 p.m.

That it doesn't matter

5:17 p.m.

Implying it's bad accuracy

I disagree with Caitlins assessment:o

ohhhh you mean the law

5:17 p.m.

ok

...

i thought you meant

5:17 p.m.

forcing it

What did you think I mean

whats

didnt make a difference

zenons

5:17 p.m.

law

HOw would I even

5:17 p.m.

Find 100 games that forced it

and that it works in both cases

Are there even 100 games that forced it

Caitlin

Find 100 games that forced it

idk

5:18 p.m.

you play turbos

Caitlin

Are there even 100 games that forced it

No there's like 5

you can force it in 100 turbos? idk

☆Princess Abigail☆

No there's like 5

I know

Danger?! Icet!

whats

^^^ please

Ngekop

you can force it in 100 turbos? idk

I played maybe 40 turbos max

it doesnt matter

i wasnt aware my game of mafia

5:18 p.m.

had rules

Ngekop's vote on me is mostly just OMGUS btw

It's like 0 for 5 when forced

He doesn't like that I called his Luka TR worse than IceT's

But I use it to generate content

ngekop isnt voting you

5:18 p.m.

what

i am

i lied

5:18 p.m.

nvm

He

5:18 p.m.

Is?

BTW it's been right in both completed semis and had high accuracy in season 9 and quals

5:19 p.m.

So I dunno

Caitlin

He doesn't like that I called his Luka TR worse than IceT's

What are your thoughts on me

whats zenons law please

☆Princess Abigail☆

It's like 0 for 5 when forced

I think this forcing would've been accurate which is why I wanted it :<

I probs just keep using it

Danger!? Luka!

What are your thoughts on me

That you shouldn't be as town locked as ppl are doing

I'm out

5:19 p.m.

IceT is wolf

Caitlin

That you shouldn't be as town locked as ppl are doing

Okay so you have me as null?

i dont like the way caitlin tried to manipulate that part

5:19 p.m.

‍♂️

Bai bai abbi

Seriously their opening was awful

Danger?! Icet!

whats zenons law please

@Caitlin @☆Princess Abigail☆ @Ngekop

Danger?! Icet!

whats zenons law please

First wagon to reach 3 contains 3 town and 1 mafia

Danger!? Luka!

Okay so you have me as null?

Yes

getting a conclusion out of smth you forced intending to reach said conclusion

5:20 p.m.

Maybe slightly below null

Caitlin

First wagon to reach 3 contains 3 town and 1 mafia

how does 3 contain 4

☆Princess Abigail☆

Seriously their opening was awful

just say you think there is a maf in those 4

Ngekop

getting a conclusion out of smth you forced intending to reach said conclusion

Well

and say why

I don't believe in the conclusion

5:20 p.m.

But I do want Abbi to feel better about her law

i-

5:20 p.m.

ok

So causing a game that has a good chance of fitting it

Danger?! Icet!

@Caitlin @☆Princess Abigail☆ @Ngekop

The first wagon to 3 votes includes exactly 1 mafia in the voters or the one being wagoned

Is good

☆Princess Abigail☆

The first wagon to 3 votes includes exactly 1 mafia in the voters or the one being wagoned

ic ty

Danger?! Icet!

how does 3 contain 4

The voted person is a person too, no?

i thought you meant only the wagon

5:21 p.m.

mb

People talk about it too much now though

5:21 p.m.

It's a problem

Ngekop

i dont like the way caitlin tried to manipulate that part

Why would I try to manipulate it as mafia

5:21 p.m.

Either I make myself look bad if it's 4 town

5:21 p.m.

And if it did fit

I miss when people didn't know about it lol

Why would I want the tell to be accurate

well

5:22 p.m.

it allows to go in a certain direction in an easy way

5:22 p.m.

a direction which is

5:22 p.m.

unlikely to be actually followed

5:22 p.m.

by someone else

5:22 p.m.

and you're a player who usually has influence so like...that's kinda good for you

Is it followed much anyway..?

here you clearly will have influence

I mean you could extend it to

Luka Town That's my only read

Those 4 + me having exactly 1 Ig

Y'all should like

☆Princess Abigail☆

Luka Town That's my only read

why btw

☆Princess Abigail☆

Luka Town That's my only read

Btw

5:23 p.m.

Why do you call Lukatown

Be towny

☆Princess Abigail☆

Luka Town That's my only read

May I know why you came to this conclusion

No

5:23 p.m.

Give a reason

Nobody gets to know

5:23 p.m.

Jk

...

I hate to use thread spew but assuming Ngekop/Abbi/IceT isn't TvTvT, Luka is prob spewed town already

i mean i have like a set of 3 players that will meta read each other

5:24 p.m.

a set of 2 players that will do the same thing

5:24 p.m.

a newcomer i've never seen play before

Caitlin

Because then we have a Zenon's Law

Nah I dont like it if its not natural If people are aware of it and dance around it the chances of it being true are much lower, and to my knowledge everyone but ice on that wagon is aware

uh

5:24 p.m.

thom

5:24 p.m.

and

5:24 p.m.

vee

5:24 p.m.

wait vee's here true

Caitlin

I hate to use thread spew but assuming Ngekop/Abbi/IceT isn't TvTvT, Luka is prob spewed town already

I have never been MLd once lets keep that tradition

@Vee come here pls

d1

you're my meta read

at least

Danger!? Luka!

Nah I dont like it if its not natural If people are aware of it and dance around it the chances of it being true are much lower, and to my knowledge everyone but ice on that wagon is aware

But they wouldn't know they'd be in it

act ive never been lynched d1 in general

Mainly their openness and purity feels towny Openly admitting to hammering anyone at L - 1 is towny and pure to me The pressure on Luka didn't feel pure IceT tmid them town

wow im so proud of myself

Like

5:25 p.m.

I followed the law in semis

5:25 p.m.

Yet I was apart of it both in 1.0 and 2.0

5:25 p.m.

1.0 due to being the one voted

5:25 p.m.

2.0 I nearly was the one voted to 3 first again

5:25 p.m.

But instead the person I was voting reached 3 just before I did

☆Princess Abigail☆

Mainly their openness and purity feels towny Openly admitting to hammering anyone at L - 1 is towny and pure to me The pressure on Luka didn't feel pure IceT tmid them town

Openly admitting to hammering anyone at L - 1 is towny and pure to me

To be perfectly clear I would prefer everybody treat this as genuine, regardless of what you think. Getting somebody to l-1 in the first place is really weird regardless of allignment

Making me.. Apart of it again

Ngekop

@Vee come here pls

Yo

Danger!? Luka!

Openly admitting to hammering anyone at L - 1 is towny and pure to me

To be perfectly clear I would prefer everybody treat this as genuine, regardless of what you think. Getting somebody to l-1 in the first place is really weird regardless of allignment

Would you hammer yourself if you were L-1?

☆Princess Abigail☆

Would you hammer yourself if you were L-1?

Yes

☆Princess Abigail☆

Mainly their openness and purity feels towny Openly admitting to hammering anyone at L - 1 is towny and pure to me The pressure on Luka didn't feel pure IceT tmid them town

Playing suboptimal is towny and pure got it

5:26 p.m.

Y'all

5:26 p.m.

This isn't New TTAG

Danger!? Luka!

Yes

Luka town

Caitlin

Playing suboptimal is towny and pure got it

Regardless treat it as if I would do such is my point

I broke Luka, Abigail, Sam and Ngekop

regardelss of what youve think id do

Are we already hammering tf?-

Vee

Yo

how are you feeling about the game

They can't play normally anymore

rn

Vee

Are we already hammering tf?-

no

Vee

Are we already hammering tf?-

no

Caitlin

Playing suboptimal is towny and pure got it

So you think a wolf is willing to draw attention to themself by hammering anyone at L-1?

Ngekop

how are you feeling about the game

Concerned if hammering is already being brought up this early

Also I think it's not anti town actually

Vee

Concerned if hammering is already being brought up this early

y

Because it forces people to actually you know be wary of their vote

☆Princess Abigail☆

So you think a wolf is willing to draw attention to themself by hammering anyone at L-1?

When announced like this yes

☆Princess Abigail☆

Because it forces people to actually you know be wary of their vote

this is my idea at the very least lol

Game ez Luka town

Danger!? Luka!

y

It started less then a hour ago why is hammering being mentioned at all

☆Princess Abigail☆

Also I think it's not anti town actually

I think it is

5:28 p.m.

We got scarily close to L1 many times already

shrugs

5:28 p.m.

It's towny dunno what to say

Vee

Concerned if hammering is already being brought up this early

no one is hammering early, it's just that this game enabled it since d1

^

5:28 p.m.

If its enabled and it normally isnt ofc it would be brought up

Luka isn't the one putting us at L-1

no?

Ngekop

no one is hammering early, it's just that this game enabled it since d1

Ah still odd

ok

5:29 p.m.

dw no one is

5:29 p.m.

hammering early

Good

now how do you feel about the game outside of that

Nge did Vees opening feel scummy?

5:29 p.m.

I assume you think so judging by the vote

Danger!? Luka!

Nge did Vees opening feel scummy?

slightly

okay

I'm the only one allowed to hammer early:3

There's nobody to blame but the collective not Luka And the collective town putting things dangerously close to hammer has nothing to do with Lukas alignemt or their strategy being town or not

just dont buy the concern that strong and reactive to hammer being even mentioned being particularly genuine

Abi is town imo at this point lol

Ngekop

just dont buy the concern that strong and reactive to hammer being even mentioned being particularly genuine

Thats fair

i do tl abi now

5:30 p.m.

bruh

5:30 p.m.

i say that

5:30 p.m.

and she selfs

5:30 p.m.

zzz

5:30 p.m.

I'm here to traumatize you

5:30 p.m.

And to put myself L-2

5:31 p.m.

Nobody's got the guts

5:31 p.m.

To test Luka

I do think ppl would have the guts

5:31 p.m.

Which is why I unvoted

Boring

Cait lean town too btw

Yay

Danger!? Luka!

Cait lean town too btw

why

I disagree Think Cait is nai

Ngekop

just dont buy the concern that strong and reactive to hammer being even mentioned being particularly genuine

it's d1 talking about hammering feels weird ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

cait has done nothing towny

IceT still wolf

yet

Ngekop

why

Votes Unvoting there when people are at l-1 or nearing that at the very least is townie wdym

5:32 p.m.

infact how is that not townie lol

Danger!? Luka!

Votes Unvoting there when people are at l-1 or nearing that at the very least is townie wdym

It's not though?

If I was mafia I'd also have to play like this

5:32 p.m.

Or I'd be outed

^

5:32 p.m.

She's right

Vee

it's d1 talking about hammering feels weird ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

sure but you were overreacting a bit imo

not really if you werent so agressive about what I said being a bad idea from the start at least

Ig

5:33 p.m.

But I do wanna be townread

Caitlin

If I was mafia I'd also have to play like this

^^

So yes townread me

Of course a wolf is gonna try to use votes to look towny lol

Ngekop

sure but you were overreacting a bit imo

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

im not saying cait's scum

☆Princess Abigail☆

Of course a wolf is gonna try to use votes to look towny lol

Only final vote counts ye

but that isnt the reason why she'd be town

So Idk why ppl always count early votes for distancing

☆Princess Abigail☆

Of course a wolf is gonna try to use votes to look towny lol

I mean a wolf would much rather use votes to get a ml instead of make somebody lean the town slightly more from my pov imo

Caitlin

So Idk why ppl always count early votes for distancing

I dont for distancing at least

I showered and re-evaled

Like if I was mafia I could easily vote a buddy rn

I do from D1 in a game where hammer is on

I think Abi is town

Without consequences

5:33 p.m.

Yet ppl would prob say we're not SvS later on

why would anybody say that

I have seen it

Shrug

Many times

I wish that works

Part of why I agreed not to hammer Nge in G3 of think twice was to look towny Part of why I voted Nge in Think Twice 1 when he moved his vote off me when I was trying to get hammered was to make us look paired Wolfs are gonna abuse that

every scum game would be so easy

True

Danger!? Luka!

I mean a wolf would much rather use votes to get a ml instead of make somebody lean the town slightly more from my pov imo

Would they?

I would at least

5:34 p.m.

Id prefer a mislynch as opposed to somebody slightly town leaning me even though that can also be done through other elements

Danger?! Icet!

I think Abi is town

Why am I town now and not a wolf omgusing ?

and with votes idt anybody will use it as a strong push except on me if I were to hamer that

☆Princess Abigail☆

Part of why I agreed not to hammer Nge in G3 of think twice was to look towny Part of why I voted Nge in Think Twice 1 when he moved his vote off me when I was trying to get hammered was to make us look paired Wolfs are gonna abuse that

yeah it did made me slightly tr you

5:35 p.m.

until you said

5:35 p.m.

vote spiritually on nge

Lol

meaning you were just

5:35 p.m.

being a nice person

5:35 p.m.

not necessarily town

Indeed

5:35 p.m.

I was

5:35 p.m.

I'm so nice

☆Princess Abigail☆

Why am I town now and not a wolf omgusing ?

BC your logs feel pure and genuine and BC it draws too much attention to wolf

☆Princess Abigail☆

I'm so nice

True

confirmation bias is real

Ily Luka

~~We did reach 3 btw~~

is it just

vee and someone who hasnt talked

5:36 p.m.

??

5:36 p.m.

that'd be

so lame

Ngekop

vee and someone who hasnt talked

Thom

5:36 p.m.

and yes

i hope it isnt the case

I think

Danger!? Luka!

Thom

or lindauna

wait no

5:36 p.m.

lindauna

5:36 p.m.

ye

Ngekop

vee and someone who hasnt talked

Despite disagreeing whenever someone has the sentiment of 'ppl who talk are townie' Ngekop is prob town for this

luka/lindauna not teamed

5:36 p.m.

btw

the law is so funny

The law is based

Caitlin

Despite disagreeing whenever someone has the sentiment of 'ppl who talk are townie' Ngekop is prob town for this

it's not bc of them talking

Oh

it's bc of their content given lmao

Yes

5:37 p.m.

That's what I mean

Ngekop

luka/lindauna not teamed

I dont think this can be confrimed In the SP game for example GIM early day you mentioned something about action being in game despite being paired with him

5:37 p.m.

so

5:37 p.m.

shrug

like im tl'ing people

A read like 'ppl talking are townie'

or, not knowing action in game

Why do you townlean

5:37 p.m.

Sam

vee has talked and is not towny

BTW in Caitlins study a lot of the "wrong" were that there were multiple wolfs which I think I still count as beneficial for the law

BTW I want people to know Luka is like very towny and Abi is prolly town but Luka is a lot townier and idk who Abi is but they seem smart which seems like they can fake wolf games like Nge does

☆Princess Abigail☆

BTW in Caitlins study a lot of the "wrong" were that there were multiple wolfs which I think I still count as beneficial for the law

Only 20% of times that was he case

5:38 p.m.

33% it was 0

5:38 p.m.

33-47-20

5:38 p.m.

(0 times it was 3+)

Caitlin

Why do you townlean

idk, the whole playstyle thingy felt goofy and funny enough to just be town careless sam not in the mood but you're right

67% of the time finding a wolf

5:38 p.m.

Is pretty good lol

also

5:38 p.m.

btw

+ like

We can't execute 4 ppl

vee is slight scummy

Just to have 67% chance of getting a wolf

and he has 3 votes

There's only 4 days

and none of the votes

5:38 p.m.

reads as partnered with him

ngekop is slightly scummy it feels like theyre trying to wrestle thread control but they arent getting it

and vee/sam as a team again

shrugs

Ngekop explaining why the law makes sense

Danger?! Icet!

ngekop is slightly scummy it feels like theyre trying to wrestle thread control but they arent getting it

not rly at all imo

caitlin isn like

i think both would be more excited

I still believe in my read so

ngekop + abi combined

Caitlin

Ngekop explaining why the law makes sense

not necessarily

5:39 p.m.

but ok

Im kinda null on nge atp sadly

im saying in this given case kinda

Id want a flip to read him

bc icet tl'd abi and flipped to vee making it 2

Bro iceT is wolf

Danger!? Luka!

Id want a flip to read him

Cringe

This progression on me is so fake lol

then why are you voting vee?

Why are we ignoring this

Personally I actually dislike the Vee wagon

5:39 p.m.

Ngekop I gotten around to townleaning now

Abbi wolf Abbi town Abbi wolf

5:40 p.m.

In like

But IceT & Abigail are def my 2 SLs rn even tho they're def not paired

40 minutes

5:40 p.m.

This isn't real

Ill sheep abbis read sur

Caitlin

But IceT & Abigail are def my 2 SLs rn even tho they're def not paired

Have you given reasons for both of them

5:40 p.m.

atp

Yes

☆Princess Abigail☆

Abbi wolf Abbi town Abbi wolf

ok

Caitlin

Yes

okay im gonna go try to find them

Why am I scum Caitlin

5:40 p.m.

You called me town earlier

5:40 p.m.

What changed

you started saying abi town

5:40 p.m.

ye

5:40 p.m.

^^

☆Princess Abigail☆

Why am I scum Caitlin

Your townread on Luka

5:40 p.m.

And then I switched after that townread

5:40 p.m.

And also voted Abigail at the time

5:41 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263317333770440/1147642979545251952

5:41 p.m.

I only unvoted due to L2

I mean it literally happened but okay

Caitlin

5:41 p.m.

You know how I play mafia

5:41 p.m.

How is this out of my town range lol

It isn't

5:41 p.m.

That doesn't mean you can't be mafia?

My reason to town read Luka is like actually real unlike Ices

5:42 p.m.

So I'm wolf for playing in my town range?

No?

5:42 p.m.

You yourself also said you're not polarized

☆Princess Abigail☆

My reason to town read Luka is like actually real unlike Ices

So I don't see why you being in your town range is supposed to be clearing

☆Princess Abigail☆

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Your content is a bad read

☆Princess Abigail☆

Click to see attachment 🖼️

omg amazing gif

The fact you could be in your town meta is not clearing at all

Danger?! Icet!

Click to see attachment 🖼️

I'm sorry I still love you

And you also say your meta's are the same

5:43 p.m.

So why should I drop everything

hmm

Just to meta read you

Abi / Caitlin prolly isnt w/w

But if it's well in my town range And you thought I was town before it

im gonna do some stuff like sam did

5:43 p.m.

see how it goe

5:43 p.m.

s

Why would it make you change

I already did give you a slight town lean due to the meta too already

bc why not

Your read

☆Princess Abigail☆

But if it's well in my town range And you thought I was town before it

For the meta

Danger?! Icet!

Abi / Caitlin prolly isnt w/w

no they just arent svs

5:43 p.m.

its impossible

@Caitlin hi

The progression is no reals

When I said that was very weak

abbi / cait arent paired scum

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263317333770440/1147647955348758559 @IZinzanity vee has 2 votes not 3

cait answer in 5 secs or less my question when i give it aight?

Ngekop

@Caitlin hi

Because that was due to your Hi

5:43 p.m.

Oh

5:43 p.m.

I mean sure

Danger!? Luka!

no they just arent svs

true

But I can pass Qs as either alignment

Ngekop

cait answer in 5 secs or less my question when i give it aight?

nge thinks he's sam RosaBonk

Danger!? Luka!

nge thinks he's sam RosaBonk

hope it works tho

Caitlin

But I can pass Qs as either alignment

A1/A2/A3/B1/B2/B3/C1/C2/C3 what setup are we in? guess it

Idk

5:44 p.m.

C3?

ok

5:44 p.m.

ty

I do wonder if your read changed because you're wolf and I didn't town read you off it

i'd prefer

5:44 p.m.

A3 tbh

I don't like this Q

5:44 p.m.

It's very PR hunty

Caitlin

It's very PR hunty

it is

Why ask it then

but also scumhunty

5:44 p.m.

bc mafia knows the column

Masons

F

are so funny

town not necessarily

theyre such a fun PR

Eh

5:45 p.m.

True

Ngekop

bc mafia knows the column

would mafia lie or not

5:45 p.m.

confused what

And maybe I answered a setup that I know is impossible fr

So I can still be PR even if there's not Masons!

Danger?! Icet!

would mafia lie or not

tbf cait was the worst person to ask that

Yes

but that's what makes it funnier

Ngekop

tbf cait was the worst person to ask that

@☆Princess Abigail☆ why back to vee

5:46 p.m.

jw

Danger?! Icet!

Click to see attachment 🖼️

what

The pushes into me have been very bad js

Oops

5:46 p.m.

I ninja'd the VC

as maf she would also be

5:46 p.m.

the worst person

5:46 p.m.

to ask that to

Ngekop

what

wowee

5:46 p.m.

is like

Ngekop

@☆Princess Abigail☆ why back to vee

I want to test Lukas claim and think Vee could be maf

the emoji I use when idk what to say

one more vote on vee and we're l-1

because it fits in every scenario

Don't put Vee to L1

☆Princess Abigail☆

I want to test Lukas claim and think Vee could be maf

did luka claim what

Do it

That Luka will hammer

5:47 p.m.

No don't

Test Luka

5:47 p.m.

Do it

@Danger!? Luka! dont hammer 4 me please

5:47 p.m.

why do you want that

We will thunderdome the final 2 voters tmrw if Vee flips green

wait

So don't do it unless Vee is your buddy

Lol

Danger?! Icet!

@Danger!? Luka! dont hammer 4 me please

nah

@IZinzanity can you not name vc's 2.1 pls?

Danger!? Luka!

nah

crying

im hammering if somebody reaches l-1 sorry

i'd rather have 1.34

Test it

bc like

Test it

Ngekop

i'd rather have 1.34

Same

Test if

the 1-2-3...is like the day

5:47 p.m.

we're in

Ye

Danger!? Luka!

im hammering if somebody reaches l-1 sorry

Look this is why it's antitown

Do it do it do it

Someone is def gonna be tempted

Ngekop

the 1-2-3...is like the day

Uhhh I was doing it more like a counting system and it would be ahrd to go back

Caitlin

Someone is def gonna be tempted

okay well lets see if somebody puts somebody to l-1

5:48 p.m.

thats pretty much the same as hammering

5:48 p.m.

and we can decide what to do with it d2

In semi practice 1

5:48 p.m.

WizKvothe hammered once

@Toof (Sam) dare you to vote Vee

And also nearly failed hammering a second time

im unvoting if

5:48 p.m.

that happens

He ended up being lynched in LyLO

ftr

And was town

omg

Lols

I just realized where I recognized caitlin from

5:48 p.m.

its maf champs

Everyone to scared to Test the claim

Yes!

5:49 p.m.

I'm 0Ix

idc if vee is maf it's too early + the most NAI hammer + 2 people have not even talked

Icet did you play in champs too?

☆Princess Abigail☆

Everyone to scared to Test the claim

i believe him, no need to test it

i was a backup

5:49 p.m.

luka begged me

☆Princess Abigail☆

Everyone to scared to Test the claim

Well ofc I am

bc i dont want that

Danger?! Icet!

i was a backup

Ohhh cool!

Danger?! Icet!

luka begged me

we didnt have a single good other option

5:49 p.m.

like. a single one

5:49 p.m.

since nub was doing it for gim

Danger!? Luka!

we didnt have a single good other option

me being a backup says a lot

5:49 p.m.

Ngekop

i believe him, no need to test it

100% reason to Test it

I was the rep for this community actually Icet

5:49 p.m.

Then Abigail also repped one

Caitlin

I was the rep for this community actually Icet

5:49 p.m.

thats super cool

And @Toof (Sam) was the backup for this community

did u win

5:49 p.m.

i know delta did supe rwell

5:49 p.m.

for mafiagg

I got 4th in my first game and advanced

DELTA IS MAFIAGG

5:50 p.m.

?????

5:50 p.m.

WHAT

I didn't even get top 8 in my second game

Ngekop

DELTA IS MAFIAGG

Yes?

Ngekop

DELTA IS MAFIAGG

pretty sure yeah

Imagine advancing

Caitlin

I didn't even get top 8 in my second game

you got robbed btw

thats their home site

Couldn't ever be me

Caitlin

Yes?

wow

Ngekop

you got robbed btw

I know

Caitlin

I got 4th in my first game and advanced

thats rlly good

5:50 p.m.

my respect for mafiagg

5:50 p.m.

just went from 0 to

Danger?! Icet!

thats rlly good

Ty!

5:50 p.m.

I was the N1 kill

greater than 0

The other game I was the N5 kill

I hate champs

Caitlin

I was the N1 kill

idk if I should be happy for this or ont

Can't wait to lose again next year

Ngekop

greater than 0

SO TRUE

I mean I had 2/3

Yay

mafiagg was kinda fun

So I did rlly good imo

thats where like i played 99% of my games

5:51 p.m.

until it got boring

And the third mafia was 5th from the bottom

all the fun players left

i love chat mafia

5:51 p.m.

mafiagg's UI is just

5:51 p.m.

awful to play with

Ngekop

awful to play with

its better then most turbo sites imo

5:51 p.m.

maybe im used to it tho

5:51 p.m.

its super uninuitiive tho

I'd maybe like it sometime

no speech filter (iso), everything the same color, no avatars

But I don't do well with new communities

Ngekop

no speech filter (iso), everything the same color, no avatars

there is

Ngekop

mafiagg's UI is just

whats awful to play with is theres no newcomer lobbies ever open

5:51 p.m.

actually cannot get a game

Ngekop

no speech filter (iso), everything the same color, no avatars

Gross

5:51 p.m.

How can I be a cute girl w/o an avatar

Ngekop

no speech filter (iso), everything the same color, no avatars

theres ISOs theres avatars (colours) theres differentiating colours

Danger?! Icet!

theres ISOs theres avatars (colours) theres differentiating colours

Oh

5:52 p.m.

Lgekop

Danger?! Icet!

theres ISOs theres avatars (colours) theres differentiating colours

it was all

5:52 p.m.

black/white

Ngekop

black/white

which is

5:52 p.m.

all I need

...

to see who sends which message

@Caitlin

5:52 p.m.

^^

the name's

5:52 p.m.

are different in the colours pfp

yeah they are but that' all

also there are ISOs and their ISO is a LOT better over here

Caitlin

How can I be a cute girl w/o an avatar

By being yourself cause your already a cute girl irl duh

and there is no avatars

☆Princess Abigail☆

By being yourself cause your already a cute girl irl duh

I guessssss

and their text have the same color

5:52 p.m.

also you cant mark roles

oh

5:53 p.m.

yeah

5:53 p.m.

that sucks

and i just love the kicks mechanic too much

I agree

One thing I hate about mafia.gg is that afaik

but there are ISOs

They have nightstart as basic

which isnt there

Right?

Caitlin

They have nightstart as basic

its setable

5:53 p.m.

you can change the settings

But iirc

Caitlin

I guessssss

Caitlin your adorableeeeee and I can say that with 100% certainty Your also beautiful

Daystart means

5:53 p.m.

MAfia doesnt know each other

I love you

you can

Caitlin

MAfia doesnt know each other

thats a setting

set that up

Oh

if they are informed or not

5:53 p.m.

yep

When I played it def wasnt

5:53 p.m.

I know it was like that in the past

But that was a couple of years back

I was there in 2019 2020 tho

i only played in 2021

5:53 p.m.

i think

I think I only played in 2019

ok fun

i do prefer nightstart for chat mafia lowkey unless the table is fr good

☆Princess Abigail☆

I love you

I love you too

Okay nobody is playing actual mafia anymore lol

we're getting distracted

otherwise it's just lame

abi we're twinnies

5:54 p.m.

wtf

Danger?! Icet!

we're getting distracted

we needed it tho

☆Princess Abigail☆

Okay nobody is playing actual mafia anymore lol

I wasn't up for that anyway

tbf

So imma go play starfield until my date

But the chat was active

5:54 p.m.

I also

5:54 p.m.

Asked you 50 mins ago

bye

If we could start the date right away

5:54 p.m.

To which you didn't reply!

Danger?! Icet!

abi we're twinnies

Omg are you my long lost sibling?

☆Princess Abigail☆

Omg are you my long lost sibling?

no

Caitlin

To which you didn't reply!

I

Have fun

Ill go play baldurs gate

bc you're not lost

I did

anymore

its taking up 200gigs on my pc

you found each other

Oh

already

5:55 p.m.

Oops.

Danger!? Luka!

Have fun

Ill go play baldurs gate

YOU HAVE IT?

I messaged you at 410 pol

oh wait nvm it was my frield irl who didnt have it

Lol*

i miss em sm

5:55 p.m.

tho

5:55 p.m.

so this conversation was probs

5:55 p.m.

not great for me

Alright me and Cait are gonna go on a date

5:56 p.m.

Gl town

☆Princess Abigail☆

Alright me and Cait are gonna go on a date

Have fun!

luka

?

do you still think icet scum?

5:57 p.m.

it triggers me that you sheeped abi's READ

If you want me to be genuine atp I have no clue

and voted him

5:57 p.m.

when i think even if you respect her as a player

They feel townie but im very hesitant on reading them cuz I wanna keep my 100% winrate

you know yourself better to read icet specifically

read rate*

Ngekop

you know yourself better to read icet specifically

Once again, if you want me to be genuine I have no clue

5:58 p.m.

alot of what ive done so far was just comparing there gameplay

5:58 p.m.

to past games

ok

adn reading them based on that

but still

and I have no motivation to do that rn

why sheeping

5:58 p.m.

someone on their icet read

5:58 p.m.

just like that

5:58 p.m.

to place a vote there

cuz a vote one hour into the day doesnt mean much and I wanted to see if ice would have any fun reaction

5:59 p.m.

Ive also formulated 0 reads

5:59 p.m.

at this point in the game

5:59 p.m.

aside from abbi / caitlin lean town

if that was your reason then i just dont think there was a need to say you were sheeping

5:59 p.m.

someone else

5:59 p.m.

in fact i think that just

Ngekop

if that was your reason then i just dont think there was a need to say you were sheeping

Good point, probably wasnt a need

makes it less good for the stuff you wanted (a telling reaction)

Youre correct, probably my mistake

5:59 p.m.

Noted for next time

hm

5:59 p.m.

ok

5:59 p.m.

ig

Nge can I have a read list please

6:00 p.m.

if you wanna make one

i never make early readslists

6:00 p.m.

+

boring but fair

not everyone has talked

boring but fair

2 people still havent talked

can I have your icet read since you havent given thoughts on them

idk, he's not easy to read early lmao

6:01 p.m.

but gth town

6:01 p.m.

abi will disagree

6:01 p.m.

which is fair

Ngekop

you know yourself better to read icet specifically

What's wrong with my IceT read? Their play is all over Their reads are fake.

☆Princess Abigail☆

What's wrong with my IceT read? Their play is all over Their reads are fake.

im not saying it's wrong or anything

Ngekop

which is fair

why do you think its fair when youve disagreed with there read?

but one thing is agreeing with your read/observation

6:02 p.m.

and a completely different one is sheeping

6:02 p.m.

and that i said given the context that

6:02 p.m.

icet and luka are like

6:02 p.m.

besties

Ngekop

if that was your reason then i just dont think there was a need to say you were sheeping

I think it's townier to admit it than to not lol

that know each other

6:02 p.m.

for a kinda longer time than any of us do

6:02 p.m.

and luka has read him accurately so far

Ngekop

for a kinda longer time than any of us do

this is def not true

and NEVER sheeped a read on him

prob

Ngekop

im not saying it's wrong or anything

Kay ❤️ ily

Danger!? Luka!

this is def not true

any of us know either of you two

oh for a longer time than any of YOUve known icy

6:02 p.m.

yeah thats true

point is

that doesnt mean im confident in formulating a play on him when honestly

6:03 p.m.

ive never played with him as scum

you never have trusted completely any read made on icet over yours so far

well. that I can remember

☆Princess Abigail☆

I think it's townier to admit it than to not lol

Admittedly you usually want to do this after the reaction but you should admit it

let alone sheeping

Ngekop

you never have trusted completely any read made on icet over yours so far

I havent formulated a read on it

☆Princess Abigail☆

I think it's townier to admit it than to not lol

agreed there

so im not trusting it over my own

6:03 p.m.

ill say

☆Princess Abigail☆

Admittedly you usually want to do this after the reaction but you should admit it

exactly

Danger!? Luka!

I havent formulated a read on it

oh i know (now)

6:04 p.m.

just like

Hmm

you voted bc of that

6:04 p.m.

which imo is clearly not smth genuine from you

6:04 p.m.

and you kinda

6:04 p.m.

admitted to it

I dont tihnk putting somebody to 2 is inhernintly suspicious when it cant really be seen as jumping on a bw when there's a better one to jump on imo

the rest is just me thinking if the intention you claim to have behind it is legit or not

oh wait nvm I didnt even put them to 2

6:05 p.m.

oh wel

Ngekop

the rest is just me thinking if the intention you claim to have behind it is legit or not

we'll see

So Luka I really do think Ice has done enough to at least formulate a lean one way or the other

Danger!? Luka!

oh wait nvm I didnt even put them to 2

yeah it was sheeping a read and putting a vote on it

Pls tell me what you see with their pushes and read on you Especially the read on you since they know you but the reasoning felt weak AF to me

6:06 p.m.

Also Cait is back

6:06 p.m.

gth they're lean wolf but im not at all confident in that They've read me for less is what I will say, but I kinda hate there pgoression on you https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147646827525574656 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147646104029118514 I also think both of these reads are really weak, at least the last part of the read on you in that it draws to much attention as wolf when as wolf one of there main games is controlling the entire town(IE: The HOB / Virtous games in which I think they were literally the top poster)

Ngekop

when i think even if you respect her as a player

HER?!?

Danger?! Icet!

HER?!?

Yes

Ngekop

but gth town

whats gth mean

Danger?! Icet!

whats gth mean

Gun to head

☆Princess Abigail☆

What's wrong with my IceT read? Their play is all over Their reads are fake.

ok

Danger!? Luka!

this is def not true

more than everyone else

Danger?! Icet!

more than everyone else

I corrected it

Danger!? Luka!

ive never played with him as scum

bc I never roll scum (hob / virt)

Danger?! Icet!

bc I never roll scum (hob / virt)

those were never tvs

6:14 p.m.

and both of those pr madness

Danger?! Icet!

HER?!?

abi

6:15 p.m.

dummy

Danger!? Luka!

gth they're lean wolf but im not at all confident in that They've read me for less is what I will say, but I kinda hate there pgoression on you https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147646827525574656 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147646104029118514 I also think both of these reads are really weak, at least the last part of the read on you in that it draws to much attention as wolf when as wolf one of there main games is controlling the entire town(IE: The HOB / Virtous games in which I think they were literally the top poster)

this argument invalid because those games were played on Anarchic players dont care if I live to final 3 despite being called lock town d1

Danger!? Luka!

I corrected it

im only slowly scrolling ddown

Danger!? Luka!

those were never tvs

I was town and you were the scum

Ngekop

abi

oh

Danger?! Icet!

I was town and you were the scum

okay

6:16 p.m.

true

issok

6:16 p.m.

idc about abi's read on me

6:16 p.m.

well I do care

6:16 p.m.

but theyre not going to be able to kill me D1

6:16 p.m.

unless they do with a really good case

6:17 p.m.

@Caitlin why do you scum read me

nah in a table with better players I dont think itl be hard to kill you d1

Danger!? Luka!

nah in a table with better players I dont think itl be hard to kill you d1

you wouldnt vote me

6:17 p.m.

smile

@Ngekop ihy (lie ily)

6:34 p.m.

im

6:34 p.m.

so paranoid of deepwolves now

6:34 p.m.

i was like

6:34 p.m.

abi is town again

dont be

6:34 p.m.

think of it like this

6:34 p.m.

nge is town

6:34 p.m.

or wolr

6:34 p.m.

wolf

and now im like

??

abi can be deepwolfing

Danger!? Luka!

think of it like this

it doesnt help

nah abbi is good

6:34 p.m.

L

Danger?! Icet!

HER?!?

Wait... did you not know I was a girl?

Danger!? Luka!

nah abbi is good

literally what everyone said in ma56

☆Princess Abigail☆

Wait... did you not know I was a girl?

I misread

Danger!? Luka!

gth they're lean wolf but im not at all confident in that They've read me for less is what I will say, but I kinda hate there pgoression on you https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147646827525574656 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147646104029118514 I also think both of these reads are really weak, at least the last part of the read on you in that it draws to much attention as wolf when as wolf one of there main games is controlling the entire town(IE: The HOB / Virtous games in which I think they were literally the top poster)

Thank you I will now continue my tunnel

its next to your name

Bye

6:35 p.m.

Back to my date lol

☆Princess Abigail☆

Back to my date lol

Have fun

☆Princess Abigail☆

Thank you I will now continue my tunnel

oki

Danger?! Icet!

literally what everyone said in ma56

abbi is good

6:35 p.m.

denst matetr what was said there

Danger!? Luka!

abbi is good

were you in ma56

6:35 p.m.

why didnt you help me kill ngekop

Danger?! Icet!

why didnt you help me kill ngekop

I was CFDd D2

i was about to say

Danger!? Luka!

I was CFDd D2

skill issue

i dont see myself voting icet

6:36 p.m.

today

I assume you changed

6:36 p.m.

your stance

Danger?! Icet!

why didnt you help me kill ngekop

until he said this

6:36 p.m.

wait nvm

6:36 p.m.

i misread

hes talking about ma56

ye

icet has 3 votes

6:36 p.m.

yeah no

6:36 p.m.

wtf is thi

6:36 p.m.

s

society

6:37 p.m.

zenon's law

6:37 p.m.

free

not putting somebody at l-2

Danger?! Icet!

zenon's law

only applies to first vote

6:37 p.m.

Vee: 3 - nge, icet, abigail

6:37 p.m.

this was it

6:37 p.m.

I wouldnt rly look into it tho

6:37 p.m.

since at the very least nge / abbi know about the law obviously

6:37 p.m.

and you do too now at the very least so

Danger!? Luka!

this was it

no

6:38 p.m.

it was on you

h

Danger!? Luka!

not putting somebody at l-2

bestie

6:38 p.m.

dont you hammer stuff at l-1

Danger?! Icet!

dont you hammer stuff at l-1

yes but if somebody put ssomebody to l-1 I cant hammer if im also voting

Danger!? Luka!

yes but if somebody put ssomebody to l-1 I cant hammer if im also voting

true

Ngekop

it was on you

I was voting myself

6:38 p.m.

cait said that doesnt count it has to be diff peopel

6:38 p.m.

we never got to l-1 on me

6:38 p.m.

or sry

6:38 p.m.

l-2

6:38 p.m.

/ 3 votes

6:38 p.m.

ithout my own vote

6:38 p.m.

oh wait no l-1 was right

6:38 p.m.

a

hello

6:51 p.m.

so this is like my first game and I just got in, any advice?

hi

lindauna

so this is like my first game and I just got in, any advice?

idts

7:04 p.m.

like you know the game so i think those cover up p much all the basics you need

so

8:56 p.m.

hm

8:56 p.m.

nvm idk

8:57 p.m.

it might be vee with one of the icet voters?

8:57 p.m.

(counting luka)

sup

hi thom

whats happnin

uh

9:05 p.m.

idk

9:05 p.m.

im thinking vee mafia

9:05 p.m.

and trying to find the 2n

9:05 p.m.

2nd*

we cant do it

9:14 p.m.

time to throw in the towel

Did thom give up wtf

...

Icy locked town Luka as lock town Abi as locked town until f5 Nge and Caitlin are solving and it's very open being very towny these can could be misclears but not voting them today Vee / Thom / sam / lind free game Killing sam last BC sam funny

that's scummy

10:10 p.m.

what icet just did

5 town reads d1 gn

@Tommy2Hands why the silent vote tho

Ngekop

what icet just did

Shocked emoji

i voted who i think is scum purely off the vote counts

10:15 p.m.

Luka got shaded super early then everyone jumped off him, and then nobody ever voted him again

10:15 p.m.

and he didnt vote conventionally i guess, i think he's not voting rn

10:15 p.m.

yea

10:15 p.m.

but yea ive given up

10:15 p.m.

just at life in general so it extends to the game somewhat

Tommy2Hands

Luka got shaded super early then everyone jumped off him, and then nobody ever voted him again

They weren't lol

Tommy2Hands

just at life in general so it extends to the game somewhat

Oof that sucks

werent shaded?

10:17 p.m.

maybe but he was at 3 at one point

10:17 p.m.

it was all in the beginning but still noteworth its not like scum isnt there at BoD usually

Tommy2Hands

maybe but he was at 3 at one point

tmk that was like

10:18 p.m.

one self vot

10:18 p.m.

e

10:18 p.m.

and two joke votes

Tommy2Hands

Luka got shaded super early then everyone jumped off him, and then nobody ever voted him again

Every game I have played with you you have voted me

10:18 p.m.

lets see if this streak continues

10:18 p.m.

or, tunneled me d1 / tohught I was evil

10:18 p.m.

Luka if I self voted would you end my misery

hammering everything at l-1

10:18 p.m.

so yes

yea i was gonna not do it this game cause of that

We're no longer besties goodbye

but you know,

Tommy2Hands

yea i was gonna not do it this game cause of that

nah please do its kinda fun if im good

10:19 p.m.

if im eivl its just annoying

i read the votes and was like yea he is most scummy

Danger?! Icet!

We're no longer besties goodbye

block me L

10:19 p.m.

wait you cant block me Giggle

Danger!? Luka!

block me L

Blocked

Tommy2Hands

i read the votes and was like yea he is most scummy

Just from the votes what

Mods won't know trust

Danger?! Icet!

Blocked

L

10:19 p.m.

wtf WHY me icet

Tommy2Hands

time to throw in the towel

Sounds like scum who gave up

10:21 p.m.

im not scum but its over

10:21 p.m.

bro

It's joever

10:22 p.m.

This game is too easy if it's Vee / lind

Tommy2Hands

Luka got shaded super early then everyone jumped off him, and then nobody ever voted him again

he got votes on bc rvs

ik

then got votes off bc people realized hammer is enabled d1

10:25 p.m.

and he didnt get voted after bc after it no one really sr'd him

none of that really changes my read to be honest

10:25 p.m.

i see

lmao thom

10:25 p.m.

youre so sily

no im not

Tommy2Hands

just at life in general so it extends to the game somewhat

wtf

10:25 p.m.

why

im seirous

:(

dude

imagine being able to look at voting like. not even half way through the day and say you know the scum team

im basically retarded

Tommy2Hands

im seirous

I know youre serious doesnt mean you cant be silly

Tommy2Hands

im basically retarded

No youre not youre adorable

10:26 p.m.

dont lie to yourself

10:26 p.m.

<3

alright

10:26 p.m.

well we can just play right now

10:26 p.m.

the important thing is Luka is scum

10:26 p.m.

based on votes

10:26 p.m.

and votes don't lie

Danger!? Luka!

Every game I have played with you you have voted me

last game you were maf tho

Ngekop

last game you were maf tho

irrelevant

and the game before that he ended up saying you town

10:26 p.m.

so like

did it during the ma game too

he's been correct in the end

10:26 p.m.

on his read on you

10:26 p.m.

both times

10:26 p.m.

‍♂️

Ngekop

and the game before that he ended up saying you town

only at like

10:26 p.m.

eod2

10:26 p.m.

so

10:26 p.m.

I guess

which is what matters the most lmao

yna

10:27 p.m.

nya*

10:27 p.m.

I messed up my nya

Danger?! Icet!

Sounds like scum who gave up

it literally didnt

Danger?! Icet!

Sounds like scum who gave up

oh what

10:28 p.m.

I didnt see this

10:28 p.m.

thatsa gen cnofusing why

Danger?! Icet!

This game is too easy if it's Vee / lind

i think vee+x, but that x can be a lot of people

Danger!? Luka!

I messed up my nya

@Vee if you're town you gotta

10:28 p.m.

yk

10:28 p.m.

step up

10:28 p.m.

already

Ngekop

it literally didnt

Not gonna argue this

Danger!? Luka!

imagine being able to look at voting like. not even half way through the day and say you know the scum team

he didnt say that either

10:28 p.m.

zzz

10:29 p.m.

he said he was voting the most likely scum given the votes as sole information

10:29 p.m.

never said that info was plenty

Ngekop

he didnt say that either

At the very least voting whom they think is scum purely based on votes that from my pov while arent nai dont mean much?

10:29 p.m.

especially when its based on rvsv?

Tommy2Hands

and votes don't lie

votes arent hips bro

(Also for osme reason I misread the fuck out of the og statement)

Ngekop

votes arent hips bro

This was funny

(I thought it wass I know who is scum purely based off the vote counts)

Danger!? Luka!

At the very least voting whom they think is scum purely based on votes that from my pov while arent nai dont mean much?

well

10:30 p.m.

yeah?

10:30 p.m.

i agree with this? lol

Ngekop

@Vee if you're town you gotta

I haven't nor will I go out of my way to be towny as town I appear here and there give my opinions and that's that

TwT

Vee

I haven't nor will I go out of my way to be towny as town I appear here and there give my opinions and that's that

what did you just say

nge can I have the scum solve please

10:30 p.m.

oh wait

10:30 p.m.

wrong question

Vee must be a power role

nge can i have your thoughts on ice

Tommy2Hands

Vee must be a power role

nice pr hunting in public

10:31 p.m.

love to see it

10:31 p.m.

not even pr hunting in a progressive way

thom is

10:31 p.m.

a dumb vote

Ngekop

what did you just say

I'm not gonna go out of my way to seem town as town I just exist and give my opinions after stalking chat from time to time

also ugh

10:31 p.m.

icet bro

Thom feels like how

you have played with thom before

10:31 p.m.

how do you think he is coming in

10:31 p.m.

to just

10:31 p.m.

give up

10:31 p.m.

right away

Ngekop

how do you think he is coming in

Yeah

how does him saying that gives that vibe to you

10:32 p.m.

idgi

Thom

Vee

I'm not gonna go out of my way to seem town as town I just exist and give my opinions after stalking chat from time to time

well do that

10:32 p.m.

you havent done

10:32 p.m.

anything of that

Actually

10:32 p.m.

I don't want to be rude

10:32 p.m.

Nvm

10:32 p.m.

I'll complain post game in dms

Ngekop

well do that

Family time

lol i just had to say that

Ngekop

a dumb vote

they pr hunted in public atp aside from the afk(whom I kinda feel bad for if we vote out instantly just. like. coz they seme genuinly confused) then I disagree That aside, give a beter vote please

Danger?! Icet!

I'll complain post game in dms

complain about who with whom

10:33 p.m.

or about what

you can just tell me IceT

Ngekop

complain about who with whom

To your question

it is what it is, if i annoy you i gotta change period

Danger!? Luka!

they pr hunted in public atp aside from the afk(whom I kinda feel bad for if we vote out instantly just. like. coz they seme genuinly confused) then I disagree That aside, give a beter vote please

vee or icet

Ok

Danger?! Icet!

To your question

no, say it here then

10:33 p.m.

pr hunting isnt necessarily scummy

Ngekop

vee or icet

kinda dittoing your question to icet can I have your thoughts on thoms behavoir(after icy gives theres at least)

Ngekop

pr hunting isnt necessarily scummy

it is when it doesnt lead to meaningful thread progression

especially bc as maf it's good when a pr read is getting pushed lol

like it didnt there

10:34 p.m.

imo

well it kinda does when vee is being pressured

Ngekop

especially bc as maf it's good when a pr read is getting pushed lol

sometimes?

10:34 p.m.

not really since pr can just lcaim alot of the time

Danger!? Luka!

not really since pr can just lcaim alot of the time

yeah so?

10:34 p.m.

it's great

10:34 p.m.

you just kill that pr

Ngekop

yeah so?

knwoing a pr yourself is better than a pr getting pushed in a setup with a possible jk / doc is my point

not really

10:35 p.m.

i think having them claim is the best bc

10:35 p.m.

you now give

10:35 p.m.

0 info

10:35 p.m.

from the kill

Thom feels like a depressed narcissist through posts I would quote if I was on my laptop but mobile sucks but as scum Thom walks in sees that there are a lot of clears and then and their scum buddy is under POE and gives up immediately saying their teammate is bad

bc you're just killing the obvious target

LOL

whether their reads are spot on or trash

ill be honest you're probably right about the first part but I'm not scum

+ you cant kill a pr read that is scummy bc it's hard to be that confident on a pr read

10:36 p.m.

in order to sacrifice what couldve been a potential ml if villager

Ngekop

from the kill

storng disagree if doc / jk are possible from mafs pov outside of exactly a 2x goon setup

Danger!? Luka!

storng disagree if doc / jk are possible from mafs pov outside of exactly a 2x goon setup

if jk is on the pr claim

10:36 p.m.

then lol

it seems like you're using me to further SR an agenda on lynching in the PoEs?

Ngekop

if jk is on the pr claim

shrug it depends preventing the night kill is strong

yeah but it depends on which pr

sure

if it's neighbor sure

10:37 p.m.

if it's tracker it's stupid

10:37 p.m.

bc you rb the tracker

10:37 p.m.

depends imo if youre confident the tracker is gonna die id do it at least kannasip

Tommy2Hands

it seems like you're using me to further SR an agenda on lynching in the PoEs?

Is this to me

idt you can be confident

yea

but whatever still having that info is useful

10:37 p.m.

for mafia

like you used me as a reasoning to further look at the PoE

Danger?! Icet!

Is this to me

If this is to me yeah I want you vee ilid dead today preferably

Danger?! Icet!

Thom feels like a depressed narcissist through posts I would quote if I was on my laptop but mobile sucks but as scum Thom walks in sees that there are a lot of clears and then and their scum buddy is under POE and gives up immediately saying their teammate is bad

how are there a lot of clears

is everyone else that towny?

either way we've come to the conclusion that thom pr hunting was dumb kannasip

Idt it locks them as scum dont get me wrong but its reason enough to vote them

and how would thom come in, infer that, and proceed to vote off vote count

Tommy2Hands

is everyone else that towny?

nah

10:38 p.m.

I only have two clears

votes*

Ngekop

how are there a lot of clears

Clears is a bad word my reads l

I was only PR hunting as a joke

....

10:39 p.m.

That changes nothing

Ngekop

and how would thom come in, infer that, and proceed to vote off vote count

Backreading

Danger!? Luka!

either way we've come to the conclusion that thom pr hunting was dumb kannasip

Idt it locks them as scum dont get me wrong but its reason enough to vote them

no it is not

infact it makes it scummier im sorry

Nge

10:39 p.m.

This feels like our first game

Danger?! Icet!

Clears is a bad word my reads l

i really doubt

Where we had Luka outed scum d1

someone will give up over your reads

Ngekop

no it is not

You're kinda wrong im sorry

when you are being sr'd

And we let them end game

by half of your tr's

Danger?! Icet!

Where we had Luka outed scum d1

Nah im town

10:40 p.m.

Ngekop

by half of your tr's

Society

Danger?! Icet!

And we let them end game

we...didnt

10:40 p.m.

arize threw

10:40 p.m.

(literally)

True

Ngekop

arize threw

I always lived till endgame

10:40 p.m.

even if arize didnt throw

that isnt endgaming

keaton was the scum flip there

endgaming is still being alive

Ngekop

that isnt endgaming

by endgame i mena f3

how can i prove im not scum

im not saying I endgamed Im saying I was alive in endgame

to icet and luka

That's tbh my favourite game on this server so far tho despite the throwing

10:41 p.m.

It was really fun playing against scum luka

Tommy2Hands

to icet and luka

idk theres no reason to really prove your not scum right now

eh

10:41 p.m.

no i hated that game

I mena days barely started

how can i not die today

I loved it

Ngekop

no i hated that game

I did to like

even if we won it wouldnt have been a good game

I just played really poorly that game imo

d1 was a mess

what do i need to give you both to not get voted

my d1 was actual garbaeg

ill do anything

So true

Tommy2Hands

what do i need to give you both to not get voted

why are you appealing so hard to those two?

Tommy2Hands

what do i need to give you both to not get voted

uh something townie give your thoughts on things do progression

why not

My second game with Keaton was my favorite

Ngekop

why are you appealing so hard to those two?

we're the cutest

ok

Literally Mason buddies

hm

so there is no chance one of them is just mafia

are you two the cutest

Danger!? Luka!

we're the cutest

L nge not cute

Ngekop

so there is no chance one of them is just mafia

100%

why are you just being defeatist, appealing

10:42 p.m.

this isnt

you

10:42 p.m.

not really a cute game tbh

10:42 p.m.

its an UGLY game

Ngekop

why are you just being defeatist, appealing

Literally said that in my first message to thom

10:43 p.m.

Sobbing

Danger?! Icet!

My second game with Keaton was my favorite

This is your favrotie game

10:43 p.m.

of al ltime

Danger!? Luka!

of al ltime

this is meant to come after the image

Danger!? Luka!

This is your favrotie game

True it was our first game together

10:43 p.m.

Danger?! Icet!

True it was our first game together

^^

10:43 p.m.

Danger?! Icet!

Literally said that in my first message to thom

him being defeatist in ONE message isnt enough to infer he is scum giving up

tf is this game

also appealing isnt giving up either

Ngekop

him being defeatist in ONE message isnt enough to infer he is scum giving up

Bro idk what you're playing

looks like broke town of salem

lol

Danger?! Icet!

Literally Mason buddies

You wish

Ngekop

also appealing isnt giving up either

The appeal did not come when I said they were defeatist

Tommy2Hands

looks like broke town of salem

the ss i Posted?

Danger!? Luka!

You wish

Me and Keaton and me were masons

Danger?! Icet!

My second game with Keaton was my favorite

wut

Idk what you mean

Danger?! Icet!

Me and Keaton and me were masons

OH that game thougth you meant this game okay

oh your 2nd in the server

I was uh

10:44 p.m.

locked town d1

10:44 p.m.

that game

Ngekop

wut

The one I died as an ice cream cop

i thought your 2nd common gaame

10:44 p.m.

game*

10:44 p.m.

with keaton

Oh

that game was huge ye

I've only had one

10:44 p.m.

Sad

Ice's favroite game was the one where I was baron and he was spy

Danger!? Luka!

the ss i Posted?

yea

that was an amazing game

10:45 p.m.

by evils

10:45 p.m.

not by town town palyed like shit but evils were so good

Tommy2Hands

yea

blood on the clocktower

10:45 p.m.

its hosted on anarchic pretty much always its uh

10:45 p.m.

a mutliday

Scum read for not hearing me out on Caitlin

sdg

this was my read for luka last game

where town has to find the demon

Issok this game will be amazing we're sweeping this exing scum d1 getting a save n1 and exing scum d2

and demon has to kill the townies

Tommy2Hands

this was my read for luka last game

what about this game

Tommy2Hands

Scum read for not hearing me out on Caitlin

nah no offense your read on cait was kinda horrible

i said he was scum

I dont think there was much to hear out

day 1 yea it probably was terrible

10:46 p.m.

some of you are hard to get day 1

Danger!? Luka!

nah no offense your read on cait was kinda horrible

it wasnt really

Cait and Abi are like

10:46 p.m.

Third and fourth cutest in this game

+ it wasnt really

10:46 p.m.

a read

Sam the fifth

the read he defended

10:46 p.m.

was the keaton one

number 1: me

10:46 p.m.

number 2: icet

which was fair

Ngekop

it wasnt really

I forgot what it was but like It was kinda garbbaeg is all I can remember

Danger?! Icet!

Third and fourth cutest in this game

ranking cuteness is unfair when everybody playing this game is cute

im down to vote icet

10:46 p.m.

just for that

10:46 p.m.

let's do it

Danger!? Luka!

ranking cuteness is unfair when everybody playing this game is cute

True!!!!

Ngekop

a read

ye

i feel rude voting icet here

Ngekop

let's do it

sure if it gets to l1 il vote

Ngekop

im down to vote icet

I'm not

10:47 p.m.

Oh

10:47 p.m.

I'm not a PR

Tommy2Hands

i feel rude voting icet here

if you vote ice I hammer

So it's ok

then lets not

okay

so

10:48 p.m.

anyone wanna do something

uh

10:48 p.m.

I havent really been trying this game

10:48 p.m.

not sure if you could tell

Ok gn fr

gn

Danger?! Icet!

I'm not a PR

uh what

that was odd

10:50 p.m.

they're basically saying they're a goon

10:50 p.m.

else they would just say citizen

10:50 p.m.

they must have some kind of trick up their sleeve

Ngekop

uh what

Sjdjf I'm trying to read manga before I sleep pinging me makes a notif pop and I can't resist the urge to click it

10:51 p.m.

Luka wanted to hammer me

10:51 p.m.

Gn fr fr

what manga tho

Tommy2Hands

else they would just say citizen

What no this is kinda dumb Saying they're not pr is much different from saying they're goon That aside, I wouldnt even look into it very much ngl. Maybe as fair as allignment indicative but not exactly what they're cllaiming

11:06 p.m.

Ima give up reading thom since like. I realistly cant

11:07 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147665236715917332

so this is like my first game and I just got in, any advice?

lindauna

Not sure if you have prior experiences, but if you're town kinda just like. Be yourself and things might work out naturally. Maybe. Probably. Oh also find scum

lindauna

so this is like my first game and I just got in, any advice?

push your reads because the people here will lie and secretly be mafia but you wont be able to tell so you just gotta trust yourself and accept being wrong more times than right

11:23 p.m.

its sort of nai i guess luka

11:23 p.m.

them saying they're not PR

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147639581966082229

But she's def an early slight town lean

Caitlin

When exactly did this change btw? Since earlier abbi used the same read on me. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147640401835077774

May I know why you ignored abbis original statement of me being town? Unless you just weren't online for that / didn't see it

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147642209198424255

But I do want Abbi to feel better about her law

This is really adorable im sorry, you guys are such a cute couple

Other than that tho, I mostly like there thread progression. There reads feel genuine and thread progression feels natural.

11:25 p.m.

Actual coward Nge

11:28 p.m.

@Ngekop L vote(You should explain it)

you called me a coward

11:28 p.m.

simple

oh

11:28 p.m.

Coward

‍♂️

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147637663277523095

there is maj today, so there is hammer

Ik this is a really weird read since it doesnt even matter very much but scum pointing out hammer existing when it would benefit them if somebodys hammered cuz they don't know hammer exists is weird. This is really silly and dumb but this alone makes me lean nge town https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147641050614202378

still towny

Can I know why? Not that im going to complain but this read does feel fairly weird. @Ngekop https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147644717031506072

i do tl abi now

Why https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147646515553255495

like im tl'ing people

Why do you tl cait here? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147661262671585370 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147720965015474246

i dont see myself voting icet vee or icet

What changed? Did icy just make a bad read so you want to vote him here?

11:38 p.m.

Ngekop

11:38 p.m.

Wow that was all like. super useless I read 18 pages of chat just for that

11:39 p.m.

idk nge lean town thread progression feels genuine

11:39 p.m.

there read on abi / me is right so idk

11:42 p.m.

@Danger?! Icet! give me reasons why youre town

11:42 p.m.

I think thats a more effective way of reading you then like. backreading

Danger!? Luka!

@Danger?! Icet! give me reasons why youre town

Compare to anon and hob (virt doesn't count as I was town d1 but if compare as well)

11:43 p.m.

Other way sround

Danger!? Luka!

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147637663277523095

there is maj today, so there is hammer

Ik this is a really weird read since it doesnt even matter very much but scum pointing out hammer existing when it would benefit them if somebodys hammered cuz they don't know hammer exists is weird. This is really silly and dumb but this alone makes me lean nge town https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147641050614202378

still towny

Can I know why? Not that im going to complain but this read does feel fairly weird. @Ngekop https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147644717031506072

i do tl abi now

Why https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147646515553255495

like im tl'ing people

Why do you tl cait here? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147661262671585370 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147720965015474246

i dont see myself voting icet vee or icet

What changed? Did icy just make a bad read so you want to vote him here?

i would 100% point it out as scum

nah i have no interest in doing work

js

give me reasons why youre town

Ngekop

i would 100% point it out as scum

shrug I wouldnt

11:43 p.m.

cuz why would I

Danger!? Luka!

give me reasons why youre town

Green role card

Danger!? Luka!

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147637663277523095

there is maj today, so there is hammer

Ik this is a really weird read since it doesnt even matter very much but scum pointing out hammer existing when it would benefit them if somebodys hammered cuz they don't know hammer exists is weird. This is really silly and dumb but this alone makes me lean nge town https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147641050614202378

still towny

Can I know why? Not that im going to complain but this read does feel fairly weird. @Ngekop https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147644717031506072

i do tl abi now

Why https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147646515553255495

like im tl'ing people

Why do you tl cait here? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147661262671585370 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147720965015474246

i dont see myself voting icet vee or icet

What changed? Did icy just make a bad read so you want to vote him here?

to the 2nd idk i just said it, imo you selfing in rvs is NAI but icet said it was towny

‍♂️

Natural towny progression

Ngekop

to the 2nd idk i just said it, imo you selfing in rvs is NAI but icet said it was towny

‍♂️

Luka doesn't self vote as scum

Danger?! Icet!

Luka doesn't self vote as scum

I do

11:44 p.m.

tho

11:44 p.m.

They try hard they don't give up

Danger!? Luka!

I do

Where

Danger?! Icet!

Where

11:44 p.m.

Diff server

11:44 p.m.

I was scum that agme

11:44 p.m.

stayed for 12+ hours

Danger!? Luka!

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147637663277523095

there is maj today, so there is hammer

Ik this is a really weird read since it doesnt even matter very much but scum pointing out hammer existing when it would benefit them if somebodys hammered cuz they don't know hammer exists is weird. This is really silly and dumb but this alone makes me lean nge town https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147641050614202378

still towny

Can I know why? Not that im going to complain but this read does feel fairly weird. @Ngekop https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147644717031506072

i do tl abi now

Why https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147646515553255495

like im tl'ing people

Why do you tl cait here? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147661262671585370 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147720965015474246

i dont see myself voting icet vee or icet

What changed? Did icy just make a bad read so you want to vote him here?

her having early tr for fair reason with confidence on it instead of trying to blend in or start pressing someone felt like genuine attempt to find a towncore unless she did all that planning on turning it to voting icet

Danger!? Luka!

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Diff server Ive never seen the game doesn't count

Danger!? Luka!

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147637663277523095

there is maj today, so there is hammer

Ik this is a really weird read since it doesnt even matter very much but scum pointing out hammer existing when it would benefit them if somebodys hammered cuz they don't know hammer exists is weird. This is really silly and dumb but this alone makes me lean nge town https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147641050614202378

still towny

Can I know why? Not that im going to complain but this read does feel fairly weird. @Ngekop https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147644717031506072

i do tl abi now

Why https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147646515553255495

like im tl'ing people

Why do you tl cait here? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147661262671585370 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147720965015474246

i dont see myself voting icet vee or icet

What changed? Did icy just make a bad read so you want to vote him here?

why did i tl cait? i...dont remember that atm, let me go back

Danger?! Icet!

Diff server Ive never seen the game doesn't count

L

Ngekop

her having early tr for fair reason with confidence on it instead of trying to blend in or start pressing someone felt like genuine attempt to find a towncore unless she did all that planning on turning it to voting icet

ic

11:45 p.m.

feels genuine

Danger!? Luka!

L

12.246.242.245

Danger?! Icet!

12.246.242.245

you can do more accurate than that

Danger!? Luka!

you can do more accurate than that

Idk what IP addresses look like

L

Danger!? Luka!

L

Keep urself safe

Danger?! Icet!

Keep urself safe

its yourself, not urself

Danger!? Luka!

its yourself, not urself

Urself

ok bro i have no clue

Ngekop

ok bro i have no clue

Relatable

11:48 p.m.

Also

11:48 p.m.

Btw

11:48 p.m.

I hate how my clears

11:48 p.m.

Are like

maybeeeeeee MAAYBE

All the experienced people

Ngekop

ok bro i have no clue

just use confirmation bias like me smh

Except for sam

uh okay

11:48 p.m.

anyways

@Toof (Sam) sorry bud

bc of her response to my weird question

11:48 p.m.

about the setup

11:49 p.m.

not only C3

11:49 p.m.

like

It's actually A3

being like idk, weird question, sounds pr hunty

The one with cop doc rber

11:49 p.m.

Highest town win rate

A3 i my fav

11:49 p.m.

that isnt A3

Me 2

that's A1

Oh

Ngekop

being like idk, weird question, sounds pr hunty

I see, thanks

A1 is so town sided

Nges responses felt genuine at the very least, so slight town lean

you do? bc i dont

Highest town win rate

11:50 p.m.

Fav setup

Ngekop

you do? bc i dont

Ded

Danger!? Luka!

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147637663277523095

there is maj today, so there is hammer

Ik this is a really weird read since it doesnt even matter very much but scum pointing out hammer existing when it would benefit them if somebodys hammered cuz they don't know hammer exists is weird. This is really silly and dumb but this alone makes me lean nge town https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147641050614202378

still towny

Can I know why? Not that im going to complain but this read does feel fairly weird. @Ngekop https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147644717031506072

i do tl abi now

Why https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147646515553255495

like im tl'ing people

Why do you tl cait here? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147661262671585370 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147720965015474246

i dont see myself voting icet vee or icet

What changed? Did icy just make a bad read so you want to vote him here?

icet voting thom for smth i didnt believe was ever worth voting btw

11:50 p.m.

i idnt like it

11:50 p.m.

didnt*

Oki doki

and from there it did feel lowkey agenda'd as he kept going

yeah okay I kinda agree in that in that the read to say the least felt forced

11:51 p.m.

Thanks for asnwering questions <3

Towny agenda

11:51 p.m.

Propaganda to dismantle the elites

11:51 p.m.

That quote was from litten

11:51 p.m.

Ty litten

ima go to sleep now unlike @Danger?! Icet!

Danger!? Luka!

ima go to sleep now unlike @Danger?! Icet!

Dont ping me

11:52 p.m.

Also

11:52 p.m.

It's like super early 4 u

11:52 p.m.

When are we watching Charlotte

Danger?! Icet!

When are we watching Charlotte

OH

11:52 p.m.

are you free

11:52 p.m.

to do that

11:52 p.m.

rn

No

oh

11:52 p.m.

tmrwo then

11:52 p.m.

sometime

11:52 p.m.

okay gn

Yes hopefully

11:52 p.m.

Gn

ok

11:53 p.m.

yeah not voting icet today probs

F lindauna not being able to post :/

can someone tell me if what luka said feels genuine from actually feels genuine?

12:16 a.m.

from me*

I CAN SPEAK AGAIN

Ngekop

F lindauna not being able to post :/

hello I am in fact able to post now

12:46 a.m.

Since I kinda had a late start to this game I’ll just go through most of what people have been doing/saying in the next few hours to get an overview

any people whom I should read through in particular ?

idk

12:54 a.m.

tbh

myself, abigail, and luka

Tommy2Hands

myself, abigail, and luka

You gave two of the easiest town locks ever

1:26 a.m.

And then one player who’s contributed nothing

1:26 a.m.

(At LEAST one of the easiest town locks if you don’t count me)

Danger!? Luka!

You gave two of the easiest town locks ever

no

Abbi is locked town

ok

1:27 a.m.

i dont agree but ok

whose the one who didnt contribute anything?

1:30 a.m.

ME?

1:31 a.m.

how are there any locked towns

1:31 a.m.

Luka

1:31 a.m.

i suddenly feel super emotional about luka

I genuinely don’t think abbis statements come from scum I’m sorry

Tommy2Hands

whose the one who didnt contribute anything?

Nobody you’ve contributed a lot <3

so then its you

No it’s not I’m adorable HugLove

you're luka

True

so like I read through Thom and Caitlyn

1:41 a.m.

Im super null on thom idk their meta but it feels like a lot of information without read progression and follow up analysis

i havent done much today i will 2morrorow irl time

1:42 a.m.

i promise

fair enough, idk what to make of the early defeatism but follow up on the luka read would help ig

It’s fine thom has me locked scum atp

lindauna

Im super null on thom idk their meta but it feels like a lot of information without read progression and follow up analysis

What about cait

lindauna

Im super null on thom idk their meta but it feels like a lot of information without read progression and follow up analysis

What do you make of this

1:45 a.m.

Do you think it’s scummy townie or just an observation?

Danger!? Luka!

What about cait

Super aggressive early but they used it to follow up on pushes from others and their read progression feels natural

Danger!? Luka!

Do you think it’s scummy townie or just an observation?

not sure what scummy townie means I’ve never heard this term

lindauna

not sure what scummy townie means I’ve never heard this term

Scummy = more mafia aligned / evil Townie = more town aligned / good

i wouldnt trust your gut on caitlin

I feel like explicitly stating the obvious without following it up into a read is inherintly scummy

lindauna

Super aggressive early but they used it to follow up on pushes from others and their read progression feels natural

Sure what do you make of it MenharaQuestion

since that’s information over analysis and town needs analysis

lindauna

I feel like explicitly stating the obvious without following it up into a read is inherintly scummy

I see

Thom had like

Okay I like your thought process at least

information with minimal analysis and I wanna hear more from their reasoning

1:47 a.m.

beyond “Lukas vote history is scum”

Tommy2Hands

i wouldnt trust your gut on caitlin

(This is true cait good player but let me make a joke here) Guilty until proven innocent the ol Thom way

lindauna

beyond “Lukas vote history is scum”

Nah I don’t think they said this they just said I’m scum based on votes and that’s it

lindauna

information with minimal analysis and I wanna hear more from their reasoning

This is cute okay I like this

1:47 a.m.

yae not just their votes

Not saying if I agree with it or not but the read thought is cute

im working up to the reasoning part of it i just havent got there

1:48 a.m.

maybe never will

1:48 a.m.

as a player

uh so like I was in a scum team with Caitlin in a game I feel like their read progression is natural here

how so

1:48 a.m.

its too early to tell imo cause they can progress any which way day 1

that’s true

We have carrot as a mutual btw so I expect you to play the exact same as them and will use there meta against you

day 2 they will have a limited range of progression if they are scum

Just letting you know

they were also very active so I looked into them

Danger!? Luka!

We have carrot as a mutual btw so I expect you to play the exact same as them and will use there meta against you

I don’t play with carrot LOL

1:49 a.m.

I know them from another server that’s not mafia affiliated

lindauna

I don’t play with carrot LOL

My statement still stands smug

I’ve played with seon before

1:49 a.m.

if u know him

Oh yes seon is a fun player

and callahan

Calla is a fun player

I’ve played with callahan a lot

1:50 a.m.

and shaun cheek

Okay I will use callas meta against you

*ccgeek

1:50 a.m.

LOL

1:50 a.m.

we don’t play the same tho

lindauna

*ccgeek

Sadly don’t recognize that one VolknerDed

lindauna

information with minimal analysis and I wanna hear more from their reasoning

he kinda gave it

Ngekop

he kinda gave it

Can I have your thoughts on lindaunas progression / read there?

can I post screenshots from this channel

From this channel ye

the other thing I dislike from Thom was how their early engagement was solely with people who were on their wagon ie IceT

Copy message link is kinda easier tho imo

and their reactions were kinda exaggerated

1:57 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147717576571494480

1:57 a.m.

Their flippancy between IceT and Luka

2:00 a.m.

I guess I’m not reading this in real time and the read progression looks worse from isolated lines so I’d rather wait for them to get back and explain their progress on these two slots because frankly I don’t think it’s a strong basis for a scumread to vote Luka for scummy votes on day 1

2:00 a.m.

I’ll read back for Caitlin and IceT and Luka later

Do me do me!

2:03 a.m.

I like people giving thoughts on me

lindauna

I guess I’m not reading this in real time and the read progression looks worse from isolated lines so I’d rather wait for them to get back and explain their progress on these two slots because frankly I don’t think it’s a strong basis for a scumread to vote Luka for scummy votes on day 1

ic

lindauna

I guess I’m not reading this in real time and the read progression looks worse from isolated lines so I’d rather wait for them to get back and explain their progress on these two slots because frankly I don’t think it’s a strong basis for a scumread to vote Luka for scummy votes on day 1

it wasnt just that

2:03 a.m.

i'll explain later if he doesnt

Ngekop

i'll explain later if he doesnt

go ahead

I’d prefer if you didn’t

2:04 a.m.

And I’d prefer thom explain it

exactly

2:04 a.m.

^^

wait

2:04 a.m.

yeah I misread

2:04 a.m.

mb

2:05 a.m.

I don’t rlly know the players here or have a pmeta on them tho

its not that luka had scummy votes

2:05 a.m.

its that i found the vote progression and wagons to indicicate luka through whatever logic i came up with at that time

2:06 a.m.

they got the most votes in RVS and then nobody every voted him again. Then he was also no-voting a few hours into day 1.

2:06 a.m.

that was my reasoning

Tommy2Hands

Luka got shaded super early then everyone jumped off him, and then nobody ever voted him again

this is a natural reaction to RVS tho

yea but its still how the votes went

2:07 a.m.

rvs or not

2:07 a.m.

the way im reading it, its not discounted by it being RVS

Tommy2Hands

they got the most votes in RVS and then nobody every voted him again. Then he was also no-voting a few hours into day 1.

I made my first vote 30 minutes after d1 started

2:07 a.m.

Tho

2:07 a.m.

W/E

2:08 a.m.

@Ngekop was that the correct answer

Danger!? Luka!

I made my first vote 30 minutes after d1 started

wait fr?

Danger!? Luka!

@Ngekop was that the correct answer

p much, literally what he said earlier

you were not voting at the time i did my thing

2:08 a.m.

for sure

it's some kind of vca as only information before placing a vote

i know you voted but its just at the time you werent

Ngekop

wait fr?

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263317333770440/1147647159903207484 40 but shrug

Tommy2Hands

you were not voting at the time i did my thing

Oh yeah I forgot to revote atp

???

2:10 a.m.

@Danger!? Luka!

2:10 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263317333770440/1147637494314188871

2:10 a.m.

...

2:10 a.m.

it was

2:10 a.m.

1 minute

Oh I wasn’t counting the self vote

2:10 a.m.

For that

Caitlin

Why would I try to manipulate it as mafia

@Danger!? Luka! i think it was the whole thing around this

☆Princess Abigail☆

Mainly their openness and purity feels towny Openly admitting to hammering anyone at L - 1 is towny and pure to me The pressure on Luka didn't feel pure IceT tmid them town

this is towny from abi as well i think

2:48 a.m.

ok yeah

2:49 a.m.

@☆Princess Abigail☆ anyone other than icet that you'd consider voting?

2:51 a.m.

but yeah

2:51 a.m.

luka/cait/thom/vee/abigail/lindauna/icet/sam

2:51 a.m.

hm

2:51 a.m.

abi town makes the most sense yes

2:51 a.m.

i also tl icet and cait

2:52 a.m.

idk with luka and this is exclusively bc im not used to tryhardy luka

2:53 a.m.

idek why do i tl icet

2:53 a.m.

lmao

Ngekop

@☆Princess Abigail☆ anyone other than icet that you'd consider voting?

Yeah of course just dunno who yet nowhere near caught up

Vee

Family time

i didnt read this btw. ok fine, make sure to catch up and contribute fairly enough before day ends pls

2:54 a.m.

hi abi

2:54 a.m.

getting to you in a sec

Danger!? Luka!

if im eivl its just annoying

idk why i liked this

2:55 a.m.

just had to make sure this conversation happened here

☆Princess Abigail☆

Yeah of course just dunno who yet nowhere near caught up

oh ok cool

Ngekop

luka/cait/thom/vee/abigail/lindauna/icet/sam

ok so yeah this aint good

And before I left I had all of one town read lol

vee is like the one person i can easily see being mafia

2:56 a.m.

maaaaaaaybe sam

2:56 a.m.

but i still dont feel

2:56 a.m.

sam+vee is it

2:56 a.m.

like cmon they'd want revenge like

2:56 a.m.

right?

hi abigail

☆Princess Abigail☆

And before I left I had all of one town read lol

what about luka felt particularly towny in contrast to last game

why isn’t nge you are not voting anyone

i'd vote vee

2:57 a.m.

actually he just has one vote

mightve been in 44 vote

hm

2:58 a.m.

k so

2:58 a.m.

idk

2:58 a.m.

i think one in vee/sam, probs vee

so

but then idk who's the other

2:58 a.m.

idt vee and icet are like

2:58 a.m.

ever the team

2:58 a.m.

so if vee is maf

2:58 a.m.

icet would be town to me

2:59 a.m.

if it's sam then icet can be 2nd sure

Ngekop

idk with luka and this is exclusively bc im not used to tryhardy luka

I can stop doing things and just speak if that helps you read me better

Ngekop

idk why i liked this

I don’t know either

Ngekop

vee is like the one person i can easily see being mafia

Why can’t you see cait again You may town lean cait but Idt it was a particularly strong one given you didn’t remember what it was lol

Ngekop

i think one in vee/sam, probs vee

Agree with the former not sure about the later

Ngekop

idt vee and icet are like

Why not did they do distancing?

Danger!? Luka!

I can stop doing things and just speak if that helps you read me better

nah

I don’t think they’re distanced at all TMK

that's my issue

3:04 a.m.

dont nerf yourself to make you more easily readable lmao

Shrug, okay

Danger!? Luka!

Why can’t you see cait again You may town lean cait but Idt it was a particularly strong one given you didn’t remember what it was lol

i say easily see

3:05 a.m.

saaid*

3:05 a.m.

said**

3:05 a.m.

like

3:05 a.m.

the only person i wouldnt gth say town

Ngekop

@Danger!? Luka! i think it was the whole thing around this

I kinda disagree with caits logic there since if we get to a point where we know it’s 4 town we’re winning anyways

3:05 a.m.

Oh I kinda skipped over the easily part

Danger!? Luka!

I kinda disagree with caits logic there since if we get to a point where we know it’s 4 town we’re winning anyways

Losing*^

yeah but cait just tried to force it there

3:06 a.m.

for a not really game related thing

3:06 a.m.

and if she wants abi to be correct which i doubt she was lying about

3:06 a.m.

then it indeed is smth not worth doing as maf bc of the info you give?

3:06 a.m.

+ last time she correctly pointed smth out she wouldnt do as scum

3:06 a.m.

she was town indeed

3:06 a.m.

and i didnt tr her for it

3:07 a.m.

but this time her doing that felt the exact same way

3:07 a.m.

idk why but i tl icet saying "im not a pr"

3:07 a.m.

like...

3:07 a.m.

it's just

3:07 a.m.

smth so dumb to say as mafia

3:07 a.m.

why would you say that right before going to sleep?

Ngekop

but this time her doing that felt the exact same way

Fair actually can see that

Ngekop

smth so dumb to say as mafia

This is actually so true thinking about it

it isnt smth towny, you kill any future chances of claiming being pr, and you just...make it easier to lynch you earlier

3:08 a.m.

there objectively is no benefit or reason to do that as mafia imo

Danger!? Luka!

Fair actually can see that

you were actually there i think

3:08 a.m.

it was in your first game

Oh uh the Ne game

3:09 a.m.

That game was fun

3:09 a.m.

I did nothing

Ngekop

what about luka felt particularly towny in contrast to last game

I explained my read Luka feels pure and honest in a way wolfs wouldn't be. If you honestly believe Luka would hammer anyone in this PL at L-1 than you believe they are town there's no other way to look at it

until the host

3:09 a.m.

did that

☆Princess Abigail☆

I explained my read Luka feels pure and honest in a way wolfs wouldn't be. If you honestly believe Luka would hammer anyone in this PL at L-1 than you believe they are town there's no other way to look at it

i know

3:09 a.m.

but like

Ngekop

did that

Nya even with that we should have won

ugh

Vee / Dart made a bad descision in Loli

i take your reason

Mylo***

Danger!? Luka!

Nya even with that we should have won

not really bc

Danger!? Luka!

Vee / Dart made a bad descision in Loli

oh well yeah

3:10 a.m.

but lily shouldnt had

3:10 a.m.

killed me

3:10 a.m.

ok but yeah host ending night earlier

3:10 a.m.

...

3:10 a.m.

for no reason

3:10 a.m.

was just stupid

Sures I agree

anyways

That was sad

i agree with uh

3:10 a.m.

abi

Host was impatient massively affected game

no i dont

3:10 a.m.

like

3:10 a.m.

ugogiewg

3:10 a.m.

i see her point and i think it has some validity

Nge just sheep abbi on this trust BlueAnimeMad

and i think she's genuine about it

3:11 a.m.

but i dont clear luka over that still sorry

Danger!? Luka!

Nge just sheep abbi on this trust BlueAnimeMad

well idt i lynch you today ever either way

3:11 a.m.

so no need to beat myself up that much over it

Anyways Abbi lock town Nge / Cait Lean town Ice / Thom very small lean town Everybody else null Vee very small lean scum

Ngekop

well idt i lynch you today ever either way

I am not getting flipped today Idt in any world tbf

well yeah

3:12 a.m.

but im not even going to try it

3:12 a.m.

idts

3:12 a.m.

so lindauna/sam null

3:12 a.m.

vee sl

3:12 a.m.

for you

3:12 a.m.

ok

This is way to many town leans btw this is indeed scary as you said

Ngekop

for you

Ye

Danger!? Luka!

This is way to many town leans btw this is indeed scary as you said

mhm

Ngekop

so lindauna/sam null

gth lindauna town but I’m not like. Like. Yeah

Danger!? Luka!

gth lindauna town but I’m not like. Like. Yeah

EXACTLY

3:13 a.m.

but then like

3:13 a.m.

sam/vee

3:13 a.m.

doesnt feel like it

3:14 a.m.

like i fr would expect more

3:14 a.m.

after ne41 yk

3:14 a.m.

where they were both mafs

3:14 a.m.

and all the stuff that happened there

3:14 a.m.

they both like

3:14 a.m.

were great with each other

3:14 a.m.

just lame they lost

Yeah definitely like 100% They also put in a town of work that aside lmao

so being together again i'd see it like

3:15 a.m.

hyped to be together again

3:15 a.m.

and like

3:15 a.m.

motivated to take this as a revenge for that game

3:15 a.m.

if vee towntells tomorrow

3:15 a.m.

this will be

3:15 a.m.

actually hard

Yeah kinda exactly the team just doesn’t feel it ded Anyways nge is lcoked town too fyi

3:15 a.m.

True

well i'll go try to sleep yet again

3:16 a.m.

if i succeed, gn

I will as well(I wanted to sleep 4 hours ago)

3:16 a.m.

Gn

Ngekop

i take your reason

Mine?

3:18 a.m.

Alright I'm gonna go catch up don't expect me to real time until I read everything I will reply to whatever I find interesting

3:20 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147661181671198770 Don't understand this I wasn't in this game why is a read on me being discredited by Ice using a game I didn't even play in. This is apples to oranges

Ngekop

i dont see myself voting icet

3:22 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147661315062632600 It's actually insane to me that you are willing to 180 a take instantly if someone expresses even a slight desire to push you lol

3:23 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147661689140039691 Knowing about the law doesn't discredit its validity. In semi 1 after rerand everyone was acutely aware that Cait was using my read and yet the law still happened in the rerand. It's based on subconscious thought not active thought

3:25 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147715169724670054 Your progression on me is so ass and literally nobody wants to acknowledge it How the fuck is this towny? The read on me has flipped like 6 times.

3:27 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147717259687632937 Hmm...

3:30 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147719206981353502 How do you possibly jump to this conclusion like 5 hours into the day and use votes to justify it? I don't remember Thom doing this last game though...I don't remember much of that game. But to me Thom was using his own thoughts and rationally explaining takes. Here is like setting up a kill and using votes instead of his own takes so he doesn't have the blow back on him.

3:31 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147719769198444554 Hmmm....

3:32 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147720198053445724 Vee is town for this post alone

3:32 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147720331222589470 Why the fuck... alright Thom can die

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147661689140039691 Knowing about the law doesn't discredit its validity. In semi 1 after rerand everyone was acutely aware that Cait was using my read and yet the law still happened in the rerand. It's based on subconscious thought not active thought

Oh okay

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147715169724670054 Your progression on me is so ass and literally nobody wants to acknowledge it How the fuck is this towny? The read on me has flipped like 6 times.

Nah it is undoubtably ass

Danger!? Luka!

either way we've come to the conclusion that thom pr hunting was dumb kannasip

Idt it locks them as scum dont get me wrong but its reason enough to vote them

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147720198053445724 Vee is town for this post alone

Disagree on that I don’t think this is to far off from like. Vee as normal scum tbh but I agree that the post feels townie

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147720331222589470 Why the fuck... alright Thom can die

True

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147722381465489448 I don't believe this for a single second. We should kill Thom no cap. This is a wolf who said something without thinking got pressed for it and went no actually jk bro it's just a joke

3:38 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147723096963432549 Seriously if I'm reading this correctly Thom is now hard appealing to his only scum read... Thom wolf also hard clears Luka and... probably ice imho

3:39 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147723548241166336 Nge why are you hard defending Thom?

3:40 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147724013389500527 What? Where? When?

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147724013389500527 What? Where? When?

Game 44.

3:41 a.m.

Not this one

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147724226728562758 First cutest couple though

3:43 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147734064774795384 I didn't even realize Cait said this Babes I love you so much thank you ;-;

3:44 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147737564313292811 Scum can't just like scum read every town though. Anyways... my read on nge doesn't exist so.

3:47 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147765836581437460 Luka are you pocketing me? Be honest.

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147765836581437460 Luka are you pocketing me? Be honest.

No it’s genuinely what I think

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147774634100531322 Why does not voting make Luka scum?

3:50 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147785224663613460 Why is this towny for me and not fake?

3:51 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147786345612320860 This... does not inspire confidence

3:51 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147787225933828146 Hiiii Thom

Im still catching up

To be clear nobody expects you to read everything

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147789655400513536 Yeah Cait is town. I was trying to hold back on this read cause I'm sick of being told I only town read her cause she's my girlfriend... but she's town. You may now insult me. And tell me I'm only making this read cause I'm dating her.

I’d love it if you do tho

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147790827532337233 Let me explain this another way Nge If you believe Luka will hammer anyone at L-1 including himself Do you really think a wolf D1 is willing to hammer themself or their teammate and put themself in a position where they have to 1 v everybody? I don't. So if you trust Luka than you town read Luka. No wolf puts themself in that position D1. Cait is wrong to say that Lukas play around the hammer is wolfy. It is only wolfy if you think they won't follow through.

3:59 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147797210868752494 Towny indignation is towny. A wolf rarely has the balls to go "fuck you no I'm gonna keep doing what I'm doing deal with it" Town do that all the time. Vee is town.

4:00 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147798410422923304 Why are we bringing up things from other games about other people to make reads on different people in this game. I don't get it.

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147798410422923304 Why are we bringing up things from other games about other people to make reads on different people in this game. I don't get it.

Shrug, honestly forgot the context there

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147800047883407443 I ❤️ you Luka. If you are pocketing me it worked lol.

4:01 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147801698300084276 I do. If I have to so do you :p

4:01 a.m.

Jk

4:02 a.m.

Caught up

4:02 a.m.

Vee Cait Luka Town Core GG ez kill Thom

4:04 a.m.

I intend on never reevaluating this town core until F3 and I will hard defend them all if they are pushed. Pushing Luka at this point is really dumb but I can't actually say why because the reason it's dumb becomes less useful if I talk about it

Pushing me is dumb because I’m good WinonaBlessed

Ngekop

EXACTLY

Thoughts on nge after what they said here / below it It just felt really genuine lil

Well that too but there's another reason too

Lol*

4:05 a.m.

Oh okay

Eh fuck it I'll talk about it Part of why I make town cores and don't reeval on them till later is because if I'm town and my town core is town and my town core is defending me and I'm defending them than mafia is FORCED to deal with us through night kills because they can never get us misexecuted. The problem is usually my town core starts to tinfoil me wolf like Kiri and others were doing in Caits invitational though Kiri I think realized I was town.

4:09 a.m.

I may suck ass at this game but if I'm right on most of my town core I kinda force the wolfs hand. And... despite how bad I've played lately... when I'm on I'm terrifying to wolf teams. I can provide a link to a game where the wolfs told me that I terrified them cause my D1 Town Core was like half the game and 100% accurate lol

4:10 a.m.

I'm gonna go play starfield ping me if you need me

4:10 a.m.

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147661181671198770 Don't understand this I wasn't in this game why is a read on me being discredited by Ice using a game I didn't even play in. This is apples to oranges

You lack context anyways Abi is a deepwolf I'm only voting in f5 well they're actually powerwolfing their treatment of me is exactly the same as ngekop's powerwolf treatment of me in ma56 I'm comparing 2 different playstyles but idc There's something seriously wrong if Abi doesn't manage to get a pelt by d3 Idk why fmpc doesn't have powerwolfing in it tragic

Expecting me to get a pelt in any game is insane. Now if I've led an exe on 2 towns by d3 yeah sure kill me but I don't have the thread control to kill anyone nobody is listening to me

☆Princess Abigail☆

Expecting me to get a pelt in any game is insane. Now if I've led an exe on 2 towns by d3 yeah sure kill me but I don't have the thread control to kill anyone nobody is listening to me

Self voting is cringe I won't do it

7:21 a.m.

Unless it's funny

Well I mean I'm not even voting you

Oh oops

I think towncores are pretty important for the purpose of Poe and avoiding mislynches, idt revealing is necessarily a bad thing

My mental health is p bad rn so I prob won't be too active today

8:03 a.m.

Icet's progression on Abigail is still awful so my vote here is fine

8:03 a.m.

Abigail I'm kinda starting to improve on due to just mindmelding often

8:03 a.m.

Also Luka never reached 4 votes so he wasnt the first to trigger Zenon's Law

8:04 a.m.

I do feel bad voting IceT when they called me cute

8:06 a.m.

Thom is a fine vote for me as well

8:06 a.m.

Actually trying to solve him this game his content seems bad

8:06 a.m.

This does seem to be a Thom thing but

8:07 a.m.

It does feel void of anything good

8:07 a.m.

And the one read that does seem explained (the Luka one) I don't like

8:07 a.m.

Luka not getting votes after RVS makes sense; the RVS votes mostly were unserious but Luka got called town

8:08 a.m.

So I don't see why it's sus that ppl stopped voting Luka

8:08 a.m.

It just means that if Thom is town, mafia didn't see the need to vote Luka, which, says nothing about Luka's alignment

8:08 a.m.

Either he'd be a hard D1 mislim due to ppl calling him town, or he is mafia so mafia doesn't wanna vote there

8:08 a.m.

So I don't see why Thom extracts a scumread on Luka from that?

8:09 a.m.

But reasons on IceT are stronger and Thom already is on L3

8:09 a.m.

But those are my 2 preferred wagons rn

8:09 a.m.

Vee I don't want because a lowposter is usually town when wagonned this much

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147864758322737204 Only I'm allowed to pocket you by calling you cute :p

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147864758322737204 Only I'm allowed to pocket you by calling you cute :p

Trueeeee

8:09 a.m.

Dw I'm not letting myself be pocketed

8:10 a.m.

@lindauna refresh my memory btw from where I know you from

8:10 a.m.

Were you in Nippleman's game and replaced out?

I was

8:10 a.m.

Yep

Okay

I remember watching u play

Abbi was in that too btw

Tho I didn’t fully follow the game

But she was town

I think the weirdest thing to me about Thoms push on Luka is that after RVS Luka got a few town reads but it wasn't really like they just never got questioned or pushed anymore

8:11 a.m.

Only a few people town read Luka

☆Princess Abigail☆

Only a few people town read Luka

Eh

I just got back home I’ll read in a while

Out of the 7 talking ppl at the time

8:11 a.m.

Luka got like 4 or 5 townreads

8:11 a.m.

Excluding Luka that's 4 or 5 on 6

8:11 a.m.

Which is nearly everyone there

shrugs I only really recall me and Ice hard calling Luka town

8:12 a.m.

Also what game was I in lol

Ngekop did as well

8:12 a.m.

Marvel Avengers Infinity Stons

8:12 a.m.

Stones

8:12 a.m.

The one that got cancelled

8:12 a.m.

Lindauna was in that but replaced out

Oh

8:13 a.m.

I barely remember that game lol

8:14 a.m.

I feel like Nges town read on Luka was barely real especially since they hard questioned every one else who had a town read lol

Caitlin

The one that got cancelled

Wait what happened LOL

Wolfs forfeoted

8:16 a.m.

Forfeited

Ye sorry I didnt mean cancelled

8:18 a.m.

Wouldve corrected myself but had to switch to mobile for a bit

8:18 a.m.

And I cant post in this chat on mobile

8:18 a.m.

(Which ftr will heavily lower my activity this game)

8:18 a.m.

I was gonna depend on mostly mobile posting

Did you try on mobile clearing the cache I had to do that twice now but it always fixes the channel disappearing for me

8:21 a.m.

You have to not have the server or channel open when you do it though

☆Princess Abigail☆

Did you try on mobile clearing the cache I had to do that twice now but it always fixes the channel disappearing for me

I can try that

8:23 a.m.

I did log out and in once and that fixed the disappearing channels

8:23 a.m.

I can see this one tho

8:24 a.m.

Yay it worked

❤️

8:25 a.m.

That's basically all I ever do it's happened a few times but that always seems to work

Caitlin

And I cant post in this chat on mobile

this is my issue too yeah

8:45 a.m.

i think in developer mode there's a clear cache option, if u do that and restart it refreshes perms

Yeah it does

☆Princess Abigail☆

Mine?

i get your reason*

10:25 a.m.

brb

I'm going to bed bbl

10:26 a.m.

When is EoD?

i may be brainwashed

☆Princess Abigail☆

When is EoD?

Tomorrow 4 PM your time zone ❤️

☆Princess Abigail☆

I think the weirdest thing to me about Thoms push on Luka is that after RVS Luka got a few town reads but it wasn't really like they just never got questioned or pushed anymore

Honestly I’m fairly sure I did never get questioned or pushed anymore after that

10:55 a.m.

At least, I can’t remember it

☆Princess Abigail☆

I'm gonna go play starfield ping me if you need me

Very important is starfield fun MenharaQuestion

Danger?! Icet!

You lack context anyways Abi is a deepwolf I'm only voting in f5 well they're actually powerwolfing their treatment of me is exactly the same as ngekop's powerwolf treatment of me in ma56 I'm comparing 2 different playstyles but idc There's something seriously wrong if Abi doesn't manage to get a pelt by d3 Idk why fmpc doesn't have powerwolfing in it tragic

Caitlin

My mental health is p bad rn so I prob won't be too active today

Feel better soon!

how many hours till eod

Thanks

10:59 a.m.

30

I’ve been out for most of the day idt I’ll be super active (edited)

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147719206981353502 How do you possibly jump to this conclusion like 5 hours into the day and use votes to justify it? I don't remember Thom doing this last game though...I don't remember much of that game. But to me Thom was using his own thoughts and rationally explaining takes. Here is like setting up a kill and using votes instead of his own takes so he doesn't have the blow back on him.

lol its funny cause nobody said that then

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147661181671198770 Don't understand this I wasn't in this game why is a read on me being discredited by Ice using a game I didn't even play in. This is apples to oranges

i think he just means you can be deepwolf

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147723096963432549 Seriously if I'm reading this correctly Thom is now hard appealing to his only scum read... Thom wolf also hard clears Luka and... probably ice imho

What is so weird about appealing to someone you think is scum? Its partly how you figure out if they are town or not

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147661315062632600 It's actually insane to me that you are willing to 180 a take instantly if someone expresses even a slight desire to push you lol

it was a joke chill

dont vote me

11:01 a.m.

i knew someone just voted me

11:01 a.m.

could sense it

Guys I don’t think you’re reply pinging abbi enough

one of the mafia is on me right now, they are trying to get me out today

11:02 a.m.

i think its caitlin again

how do you plan to convince us the mafia is on you and not u

ill just be myself

11:02 a.m.

worked before

I think Caitlin had a bit of an iffy reasoning early on regarding the whole “if 3 people are on a wagon, 3 are town and 1 is scum”

why are all the GIRLS voting me or scumming me

11:03 a.m.

some kind of conspiracy

11:03 a.m.

the whole zenon thing

11:03 a.m.

zenon is not bad but its just casting a wide net lol

11:03 a.m.

so its like yea sure its accurate but its not that helpful imo its just an EpicMafia-type way of solving

lindauna

I think Caitlin had a bit of an iffy reasoning early on regarding the whole “if 3 people are on a wagon, 3 are town and 1 is scum”

Nah that’s something abbi came up with uhm zenons law, just something they noted Not really ai

so it peaks at like 75-80%

11:04 a.m.

im trying to go for 90% accuracy

what’s Zenons law

some bullshit

Danger!? Luka!

Nah that’s something abbi came up with uhm zenons law, just something they noted Not really ai

^ I also in fact stated that I don't believe in it

ah ok

lindauna

what’s Zenons law

1 scum / 3 town in the first person to get to 4 separate people / 3 votes during rvs

lindauna

what’s Zenons law

The thing you just stated

11:04 a.m.

Yea

anyway the most important thing right now is

11:04 a.m.

caitlin

Tommy2Hands

one of the mafia is on me right now, they are trying to get me out today

I'm not voting you?

11:05 a.m.

I stated that I preferred IceT

yea i forgot but you are SRing me

11:05 a.m.

i didnt see that

11:05 a.m.

okay so ur a good guy

Caitlin

I stated that I preferred IceT

I recall you mentioned Luka too

What is this logic

So I'm good if I don't vote you and mafia if I do

11:05 a.m.

Lol

lindauna

I recall you mentioned Luka too

Very early on

What’s your take on them

why would that not be the case

11:05 a.m.

if you are voting me it means a lot more than SRing me

Luka is null to slight town now

11:05 a.m.

I don't think he has been overly townie

ic understandable

But everyone else is seeing smth Ig

11:06 a.m.

There's also def more sus slots

i think luka is scum

is wagonomics a thing in disc magi

11:06 a.m.

*disc mafia

yes

Tommy2Hands

i think luka is scum

idk if people use it but it still applies

11:06 a.m.

i think it applies to every flip mafia game

11:06 a.m.

and even flipless too but you gotta be intelligent

I think it only rlly works for EoD vote counts

11:07 a.m.

Like

11:07 a.m.

If you are mafia rn

11:07 a.m.

Imo a buddy easily could be voting you

what why

With the intention of moving off later

oh

11:07 a.m.

yea i could see that

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147715169724670054 Your progression on me is so ass and literally nobody wants to acknowledge it How the fuck is this towny? The read on me has flipped like 6 times.

i think it's clear he tr's you yet fears you

So early wagonomics to me don't rlly say much

i dont really know how to work with others and honestly i think the best way to play mafia is by fighting with your teammates

yep i agree

as mafia i mean

Tommy2Hands

i dont really know how to work with others and honestly i think the best way to play mafia is by fighting with your teammates

as mafia that’s not necessarily a good strategy especially if scum voices lead town

11:08 a.m.

bussing is suboptimal play lol

^

not really bussing tho

Especially with this many PRs

if your opponent sucks and you bus them thats on them for not defending themselves

11:08 a.m.

usually

Tommy2Hands

not really bussing tho

Ye normal distancing is fine I afree

your teammate*

11:09 a.m.

cause naturally you are going to bump into your teammate in the game thread and you have to progress naturally on their read, so if they are scummy you may end up having to lynch them

11:09 a.m.

Wrong gif

11:09 a.m.

Ignore that

your words can be illogical but ur votes cant

i mean sucks is subjective, if your mafia partner is new to the game their wolfrange may be hard to identify

wtf is luka doing

I said wrong gif

in the same way new town could make suboptimal plays and votes and still be town

If Luka is town Thom

well whatever its pointless talk about game mechs

What does that say about your other voters

11:10 a.m.

And what if Luka is mafia

wagonmics is the best but it fails at top level

idt it’s pointless given it gives some insight into your thought process#

uhh if luka is town

11:10 a.m.

then prob lin/cait/abi has mafia

11:10 a.m.

for sure

11:10 a.m.

one of you probably has mafia for sure regardless actually

did u just name everyone voting u

Tommy2Hands

if you are voting me it means a lot more than SRing me

Nah it depends this early into the game it doesn’t mean much imo

well i had my sus of abi and caitlin yesterday too

11:11 a.m.

but i just didnt mention it

Caitlin

Luka is null to slight town now

Why slight town

lindauna

did u just name everyone voting u

Plus me for scumreading Thom lol

Tommy2Hands

well i had my sus of abi and caitlin yesterday too

Why?

how did your read go from “one person voting me is mafia” to “all the people on my wagon are in my scum pool”

Ngekop

i think it's clear he tr's you yet fears you

Why come to this conclusion what this isn’t true at all imo

Caitlin

Why?

just based off the votes. nothing serious

I don’t rlly like your read progression under pressure tbh

plus i will always be susp of you both

lindauna

did u just name everyone voting u

Normal thom gameplay

i dont trust you two

It feels like your engagement is limited to those with a read on you

it is for now

11:12 a.m.

i havent even read the game yet

and your engagement with the rest of the thread feels opportunistic

11:12 a.m.

yeah like

11:12 a.m.

that’s a scum lean

11:12 a.m.

lol

what

Im not even parked on you im pushing for reactions rn

Lindauna read me what’s your read on me I like hearing thoughts on me

why would you say that

provide your reads

now

Danger!? Luka!

Why slight town

1) You haven't done smth sus except for being antitown, which I sadly agree isn't sus 2) You might be thread spewed town by the way progression on you went, there is probably at least 1 mafia that decided to TMI you town seeing that you wouldn't be the D1 mislim

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147720198053445724 Vee is town for this post alone

yeah no

i just kinda did tho

Tommy2Hands

just based off the votes. nothing serious

I literally always vote often .-.

I don’t understand how everyone who reads you as scum is in your scumpool and this directly contradicts what you said about one person on the wagon being scum

Caitlin

1) You haven't done smth sus except for being antitown, which I sadly agree isn't sus 2) You might be thread spewed town by the way progression on you went, there is probably at least 1 mafia that decided to TMI you town seeing that you wouldn't be the D1 mislim

Hammering anybody at l1 sadly isn’t antitown im sorry And ye oki

Danger!? Luka!

Hammering anybody at l1 sadly isn’t antitown im sorry And ye oki

It is antitown

my full scumpool is everyone right now lol

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147722381465489448 I don't believe this for a single second. We should kill Thom no cap. This is a wolf who said something without thinking got pressed for it and went no actually jk bro it's just a joke

no one would say that seriously

Your game engagement is limited to luka/icet/vee all of whom were top wagons earlier

11:14 a.m.

it feels mildly opportunistic to only have reads on the top wagons and people voting you

im just saying based on the way this convo has gone i feel like abi/cait/lin has scum equity with or without luka

The one that asked me about the setup is the actual PR hunter

when there are other active voices in this thread

and my read on luka earlier still stands for me

Was that Ngekop

yes and then there is FRO

Caitlin

Was that Ngekop

Thom did this too

11:14 a.m.

but it felt troll

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147723548241166336 Nge why are you hard defending Thom?

bc the stuff they are pointing out isnt really as scummy as they are making it look

Caitlin

Was that Ngekop

Yes with the question thing

Caitlin

It is antitown

Wrong imo

Danger!? Luka!

Yes with the question thing

Yes

Im null on Abagail so far because their thread interaction feels kinda forced to me

for what its worth i think nge would defend me as town or maf here

I think if I made a ranking of most townie things and most scummy things, Ngekop would be near the top on both rankings

11:15 a.m.

But gth, he is town

uhh

i can see how you would picture Caitlin and Abagail as being aligned but I’m not sure I follow your read progression @Tommy2Hands

nge you gotta wait for his actions

11:15 a.m.

cant judge him town day 1

Ig but I'm impatient

lindauna

i can see how you would picture Caitlin and Abagail as being aligned but I’m not sure I follow your read progression @Tommy2Hands

im not even saying they are aligned i just dont know

Ngekop

im not saying 2/2 maf is in that pool

Then what do you know

What is your read on me

not much

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147785224663613460 Why is this towny for me and not fake?

i just woke up, if i feel in the mood of answering this later after finishing catching up i will

is there anything you’re confident in at this point

uhhh

11:16 a.m.

i think we can win pretty easily here

11:17 a.m.

i think we vote nge today maybe

Im not grilling you because I’m pushing you out I’m trying to understand how you play and determine if it comes from a town or scum pov

Tommy2Hands

i think we vote nge today maybe

But you just said you didnt want to read him D1

11:17 a.m.

I don't wanna vote him

Yeah that’s

im thinking we can though

Caitlin

What is your read on me

I do want this answered Nge

literally out of ur scumpool

he honestly isnt doing much and i think he has scum equity or whatver

of me cait Abagail

and i think in the case he is town the game is solved from that wagon

11:17 a.m.

frankly

lindauna

of me cait Abagail

And Luka*

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147790827532337233 Let me explain this another way Nge If you believe Luka will hammer anyone at L-1 including himself Do you really think a wolf D1 is willing to hammer themself or their teammate and put themself in a position where they have to 1 v everybody? I don't. So if you trust Luka than you town read Luka. No wolf puts themself in that position D1. Cait is wrong to say that Lukas play around the hammer is wolfy. It is only wolfy if you think they won't follow through.

i agree on it being towny, not on it being clearing

So you townread Sam/Vee/IceT?

if hes maf its good but if he's town i think the game is won

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147797210868752494 Towny indignation is towny. A wolf rarely has the balls to go "fuck you no I'm gonna keep doing what I'm doing deal with it" Town do that all the time. Vee is town.

vee is just sticking to the way he perceives his town game. that can come from town or scum in his case

Caitlin

So you townread Sam/Vee/IceT?

think Thom pushed Vee for a little while before I joined thread

I don't see how Ngekop being town would solve the game

lindauna

think Thom pushed Vee for a little while before I joined thread

Oh

dont remember pushing vee

im not tr'ing vee for that ever lmao

lemme check@

Tommy2Hands

dont remember pushing vee

What is your read on Vee and the two others?

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147798410422923304 Why are we bringing up things from other games about other people to make reads on different people in this game. I don't get it.

not the case zzz

Tommy2Hands

Vee must be a power role

ah nvm

Caitlin

I don't see how Ngekop being town would solve the game

how people would vote would reveal it all imo

11:19 a.m.

like last game

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as always time to ignore this

Ngekop

as always time to ignore this

Bruh

Tommy2Hands

how people would vote would reveal it all imo

Luka's vote wasn't as incriminating tbf

11:20 a.m.

Both scum on topwagon in TvT wagons isn't that likely

Do you read this wagon as tvt

Caitlin

What is your read on Vee and the two others?

hhm i guess what Vee said earlier sort of makes me think he is a town but i didnt think about it. Sam i have no clue, havent even read one of his posts this game, IceT same thing but i may have read some of his posts.

Tommy2Hands

hhm i guess what Vee said earlier sort of makes me think he is a town but i didnt think about it. Sam i have no clue, havent even read one of his posts this game, IceT same thing but i may have read some of his posts.

So...

11:21 a.m.

You only townread Vee from the ppl you saw

Caitlin

Both scum on topwagon in TvT wagons isn't that likely

it would prob be 1 on and 1 off, which is super easy

And scumread all others

idek if i tr Vee

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fmpc?

11:21 a.m.

oh fmpv

lindauna

Do you read this wagon as tvt

No idea

no

no i dont SR them what

11:21 a.m.

null

what's fmpc????

Tommy2Hands

idek if i tr Vee

Tommy2Hands

no i dont SR them what

But you just accused

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what's a pelt

11:21 a.m.

Me, Abbi, Lin, Luka and Ngekop

yea

Ngekop

what's a pelt

Wolf kill

we were talking about sam and icet

When you were the cause behind the wolf being voted out

Tommy2Hands

we were talking about sam and icet

But you didnt recall them

yea so null

So that means you scumread everyone you saw do stuff minus Vee, no

Ngekop

fmpc?

Forum mafia political compass

yea i guess so

11:22 a.m.

lol

are u new Thom

5th game

Danger?! Icet!

Forum mafia political compass

Wtf

6th technically

Caitlin

Vee I don't want because a lowposter is usually town when wagonned this much

wagoned this much?

11:24 a.m.

lol

Ngekop

wagoned this much?

English is hard okay

11:26 a.m.

Hi Littlexa

Caitlin

Ngekop did as well

hardly????

11:26 a.m.

lol what

Caitlin

Wtf

Hi

Hey, sending this message to both games - I’m home with my family for labor day but heading back today, I promise I’ll be online soon but unfortunately family is more important than mafia (cringe am i right)

I agree with not voting vee, you don’t vote afk slots when you have sls in the thread

Danger?! Icet!

Hi

Toof (Sam)

Hey, sending this message to both games - I’m home with my family for labor day but heading back today, I promise I’ll be online soon but unfortunately family is more important than mafia (cringe am i right)

I read this was you were in labour somehow

I an

He is having a baby

☆Princess Abigail☆

When is EoD?

in over 24h

lindauna

I’ve been out for most of the day idt I’ll be super active (edited)

don't edit posts pls

it was a typo mb, will do

Tommy2Hands

i think its caitlin again

might be

Tommy2Hands

so its like yea sure its accurate but its not that helpful imo its just an EpicMafia-type way of solving

wait what are you talking about now

Tommy2Hands

some bullshit

looool

zenons law

Caitlin

I'm not voting you?

nvm then, i take away the "might be"

Tommy2Hands

if your opponent sucks and you bus them thats on them for not defending themselves

bro i love this guy

Ngekop

nvm then, i take away the "might be"

Idk what the might be is linking to

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it is

11:37 a.m.

he is afraid of her deepwolfing

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this guy is amazing im never voting him

11:38 a.m.

not until lylo at least

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this is towny but why saying it

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that is antitown bro, what are you talking about

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sure

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mhm

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what about me

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it is antitown seriously

11:41 a.m.

if you hammer indiscriminately it is antitown

11:41 a.m.

saying you will might not be

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amazing

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probs true

11:42 a.m.

but i like this

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this sounds fair

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no clue

11:43 a.m.

scum then town then possibly scum again then possibly town again

Ngekop

no clue

How do I read you then smh

the thing is gth icet/thom are town to me

11:43 a.m.

so you pushing those two specifically

11:43 a.m.

is what i dont like

11:44 a.m.

i might need to reevaluate on icet

Why can't I just be wrong twice?

sure

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...

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again towny

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????

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what are you talking about now

Caitlin

English is hard okay

my question wasnt about grammar

Ngekop

my question wasnt about grammar

Oh?

lindauna

I agree with not voting vee, you don’t vote afk slots when you have sls in the thread

but i don't that's the thing

Danger?! Icet!

I read this was you were in labour somehow

lol

idk im gonna eat and then read the whole game soon

Caitlin

Idk what the might be is linking to

you saying you prefer icet while voting thom

11:49 a.m.

which wasnt the case so nvm

Ah ok

Caitlin

Why can't I just be wrong twice?

bc it still seems lowkey opportunistic and going for weakest links when you werent the first to sus either of them and just lowkey jumped after abi gave some logic on it

11:50 a.m.

@Danger!? Luka! unvote

11:50 a.m.

pls

11:50 a.m.

why are you guys voting thom

Ngekop

bc it still seems lowkey opportunistic and going for weakest links when you werent the first to sus either of them and just lowkey jumped after abi gave some logic on it

I was asleep when Thom started posting tho

11:51 a.m.

Or maybe I'd have been the first

i mean sure

11:51 a.m.

still tho, you get my concern ig

11:52 a.m.

it's hard to read y'all when you just take logical approaches

11:53 a.m.

bc you're not dumb so the logic would also be not bad at the very least

11:53 a.m.

and until i see where it leads i cant get smth out of it

11:54 a.m.

also sorry for the ignoring thing abi, that wasnt nice

11:54 a.m.

still dont agree with those reads at all sorry but yeah, no reason to go like that about it

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@Caitlin do you think thom would seriously go here as scum especially considering im the only one defending him?

11:56 a.m.

and he clearly has seen me just omgus'ing a lot when someone wants to push me

11:56 a.m.

it's just the dumbest (or smartest) thing he could possibly do there

11:56 a.m.

sure he was questioned about just having a pool of people sr'ing him for his own

11:56 a.m.

BUT

11:56 a.m.

he didnt say "ig nge could be maf pocketing me" or smth like that

11:57 a.m.

LIKE

11:57 a.m.

he literally said vote him out to solve the game

11:57 a.m.

if he's maf he knows that is never going through and it's just completely absurd to say that

11:57 a.m.

...

maybe cause of the Majority but i think you get more as maf for defending me than you do as town

yeah idc about that

12:04 p.m.

im saying you doing this as scum is absurd

12:05 p.m.

and if you did, unless it was a mastermind plan to get me to say all this for you to get tr'd (which i really doubt), i'll be disappointed

nge town

yea but what about ME

12:18 p.m.

i am town too

Tommy2Hands

yea but what about ME

you agree im town then?

uhhhh

12:20 p.m.

sorry but i just dont know

ok

I would like to lynch you today, just because I think how each member would vote would solve the game like how Keaton's lynch solved it.

12:20 p.m.

but that only applies if you are town

12:21 p.m.

so in a way yes i think you are town but you have sucm equity too which is why i am okay with lynching you as opposed to someone like

12:21 p.m.

maybe luka or sam, altohugh i dont think those solve as much as your slot does

Ngekop

and if you did, unless it was a mastermind plan to get me to say all this for you to get tr'd (which i really doubt), i'll be disappointed

it could be as simple as Thom being a new player caught off guard

never caught off guard

lindauna

it could be as simple as Thom being a new player caught off guard

no, that's never an intuitive thing to do

i mean even linduana i think she's been towny but still possible to be scum

their responses to me and Caitlin seemed all over the place

pushing the one person defending you for a dumb reason like that just

12:21 p.m.

aint it

so im fine with them dying

Their reads are so beefy

12:22 p.m.

Hedgy*

lindauna

their responses to me and Caitlin seemed all over the place

he is always all over the place sadly

lol

“this person can be town but they can also be scum” is what he’s said about well, the entire thread

they are hedgy but look

ne44 he was town and said "we should lynch X" whith X ranging through 5-6 different players

soon they wont be hedgy

12:22 p.m.

im trimming the hedges down

if he's scum he def is going for the

just give me time

replicating his town game strat

im kind of lazy

but taking it as far as suggesting the lynch on the one person defending him when he is top wagon + another person outside sl's him as well

12:23 p.m.

is just

12:23 p.m.

not it

12:23 p.m.

for me at least

it’s not difficult for a newer player to replicate their town game as scum given their reads haven’t developed to a point where it can’t be recreated from a scum pov

i mean my lynch solves the game as well as Fro's does but I dont trust you guys to clean up the scum that revael themselves

12:24 p.m.

my reads have developed

lindauna

it’s not difficult for a newer player to replicate their town game as scum given their reads haven’t developed to a point where it can’t be recreated from a scum pov

i agree with that but my point is even with that approach, he wouldnt do that

12:24 p.m.

idts at least

12:24 p.m.

the part of suggesting my lynch

however I do recognise that this is somewhat a tunnel into an ambiguous slot

look guys i will reveal myself to be town here soon

12:24 p.m.

there is no point in speculating

12:24 p.m.

it will be clear

If I were to look into another slot I’d say it’s between Abigail and IceT

damn

since they’ve both caught my attention

not unfair

im unsure if Abigail deserves to be townread for their contributions because while the quantity is nice a lot of them present a line of inquiry without follow up

i think the reasoning to tr luka came from an original place

wasnt caitlin voting them

12:25 p.m.

abigail

they are processing a lot of information to do something within the thread but their reads are lacking

at one point just bc she said she wouldnt explain a specific read

like there isn’t much analysis so much as response

12:26 p.m.

Syrah

12:26 p.m.

Yeah

but then did explain it and cait moved

abigail + sam/another lower post is possible

so NAI imo

Tommy2Hands

abigail + sam/another lower post is possible

vee

12:26 p.m.

icet?

i may be too naive

12:26 p.m.

but i still think

yea vee/icet/ and then luka too imo

I would rather look into slots that lean scum before voting out afks because you only vote out afks if you have no better read

icet can still be town

agreed on that too

lindauna

I would rather look into slots that lean scum before voting out afks because you only vote out afks if you have no better read

yeah but

12:27 p.m.

i dont expect vee to remain afk

that’s fair

wasnt luka TRing everyone

12:27 p.m.

to the point they were bringing up PoE

Im kinda null on ruka and I’ll revisit my sl on Thom based on their contributions

lindauna if scum is doing a heck of a job

12:28 p.m.

ruka lmfaoooo

nge seems town

lindauna and thom town, i still tl abigail lowkey. and i still gth icet town

Caitlin seems town

i lowkey am hoping

12:29 p.m.

vee comes in

12:29 p.m.

and doesnt towntell

12:29 p.m.

bc otherwise it'll be hard for me to decide where to vote

12:30 p.m.

i dont sr anyone

town: nge, caitlin null: luka scum: icet, thom, abigail

12:33 p.m.

not me failing to type

F

12:37 p.m.

well im going for breakfast

I've been half afk bc my phone sucks and I can't talk in ma either but my slot is bleeding town imo and those who have me as scum are those who aren't going to bother to read me and sheep people who know what they're doing I scum read lind and Thom, they always were in my Poe and all I see from their reads is sheeping consensus without taking controversial takes and putting those who drew attention to themselves as scum Me and Abi aren't w/w if you see that I'm genuinely gonna call you mafia BC that's a really dumb read sorry so idk why both of us are in your scum reads

Danger?! Icet!

I've been half afk bc my phone sucks and I can't talk in ma either but my slot is bleeding town imo and those who have me as scum are those who aren't going to bother to read me and sheep people who know what they're doing I scum read lind and Thom, they always were in my Poe and all I see from their reads is sheeping consensus without taking controversial takes and putting those who drew attention to themselves as scum Me and Abi aren't w/w if you see that I'm genuinely gonna call you mafia BC that's a really dumb read sorry so idk why both of us are in your scum reads

Clear

12:50 p.m.

Cache

Danger!? Luka!

Clear

Ok

Danger?! Icet!

I've been half afk bc my phone sucks and I can't talk in ma either but my slot is bleeding town imo and those who have me as scum are those who aren't going to bother to read me and sheep people who know what they're doing I scum read lind and Thom, they always were in my Poe and all I see from their reads is sheeping consensus without taking controversial takes and putting those who drew attention to themselves as scum Me and Abi aren't w/w if you see that I'm genuinely gonna call you mafia BC that's a really dumb read sorry so idk why both of us are in your scum reads

how is thom saying lynch nge sheeping???

Danger?! Icet!

I've been half afk bc my phone sucks and I can't talk in ma either but my slot is bleeding town imo and those who have me as scum are those who aren't going to bother to read me and sheep people who know what they're doing I scum read lind and Thom, they always were in my Poe and all I see from their reads is sheeping consensus without taking controversial takes and putting those who drew attention to themselves as scum Me and Abi aren't w/w if you see that I'm genuinely gonna call you mafia BC that's a really dumb read sorry so idk why both of us are in your scum reads

To clarify since English isn't making sense people are sheeping Caitlin reads

Ngekop

how is thom saying lynch nge sheeping???

Where also my post was also half to lind

Danger?! Icet!

Where also my post was also half to lind

he has said it many times

12:53 p.m.

read it

Ngekop

he has said it many times

I can't

12:53 p.m.

I'm busy rn

well then just take my word for it

12:53 p.m.

or check back later if i decided to quote it

Ok

having breakfast rn

hi thom

☆Princess Abigail☆

BTW IceT TMId Luka town

we never figured out what this meant

wdym

Caitlin

Ngekop's vote on me is mostly just OMGUS btw

odd clarification

1:33 p.m.

think ngekop is town

huh?

1:46 p.m.

I'm thinking Luka nge cait town, abigail vee maf

1:46 p.m.

IceT not sure

1:46 p.m.

lindauna town

1:47 p.m.

all the townies have possibility of being the 2nd maf,

1:47 p.m.

if its ab/vee

1:47 p.m.

although i dont think cait / abigail is a thing i guess

1:48 p.m.

down 2 vote abigail or Vee for vendetta today

Why dafuq do I have 18 notifications lol

2:25 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147907779118518302 Omg an EoD I can make!

2:25 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147907826195382482 I'm fairly sure that's untrue. It wasn't like brutal but I'm pretty sure there's been paranoia. I'm way too lazy to go fact check myself though.

2:27 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147909005419745330 Sure but why are we using other people to explain how I would deep wolf in a game or makes no sense

2:27 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147909160806121553 Uh...it is? No it's not if you think someone is scum you don't treat them as town...

2:28 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147909226031751209 I have played with you enough to say I don't think it was lol

2:28 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147909352506802196 Clearly nobody knows how to just copy the message link

2:29 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147909595185020978 That's... literally my read and she doesn't even believe it anymore she just wants to make me happy cause like she's an amazing girlfriend.

2:30 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147909764672651335 How am I casting a wide not? I'm looking for town reads. My scum reads are pretty focused and contained right now.

2:32 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147910801227780186 Nge are you Ices lawyer? Why do you need to get involved every time I speak about him? Why are you defending him from me so hard?

2:35 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147910840784269333 Fighting with your teammates is defs not a good way to play mafia... working together is how you win games. I've been getting mentored in FM by one of the best mafia players in the world and he's been pushing me to work with my teammates more. He says my single biggest weakness is how I start fights with my team as either alignment even when I'm right and they are wrong I won't convince them if I upset them and than I lose.

2:36 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147911656983232522 Why didn't you mention it makes me think you're lying tbh

Hey people’s, sorry for not being active. At the archery range atm, I’ll backread when I get home.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147912069992153169 I'm sorry but... you are simply wrong lol

2:38 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147912226569719918 Can we stop arguing about this... it's not but Caitlin simply won't ever agree

2:39 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147912310468378674 I really hate that you feel the need to say I'm wrong on anything I say. I'm sorry but your fucking wrong so pls stop discrediting me at every corner and let the people I'm talking about speak when I say stuff about them. Pls. Thank you.

2:40 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147912719715029174 How the fuck...

2:41 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147912729038962839 For what it's worth he should stop

2:41 p.m.

Like I don't care about defending your town read make a town case whatever but taking the pressure off them and saying every thing is towny helps absolutely zero

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147909005419745330 Sure but why are we using other people to explain how I would deep wolf in a game or makes no sense

he's just comparing the feeling (+ bringing up some complaints to luka), not using last game as an argument.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147912850413723719 You can? Why pls?

2:43 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147913008836792412 You should probs answer it if you didn't already

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147909226031751209 I have played with you enough to say I don't think it was lol

many times it isnt, that one time it was bc i didnt actually misread

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147909352506802196 Clearly nobody knows how to just copy the message link

i like it when a preview of the message is shown

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147913505350094960 I'm sorry but. There's a reason towny indignation is a viable read. Town and scum approach this very differently.

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147910801227780186 Nge are you Ices lawyer? Why do you need to get involved every time I speak about him? Why are you defending him from me so hard?

bc i still would guess he is town being pushed harder than he should and i dislike that. im not his lawyer, i just am doing what i want to do

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147913566758903890 That's okay after they flip town you should listen to me though

2:45 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147913776864165958 Sip

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147910840784269333 Fighting with your teammates is defs not a good way to play mafia... working together is how you win games. I've been getting mentored in FM by one of the best mafia players in the world and he's been pushing me to work with my teammates more. He says my single biggest weakness is how I start fights with my team as either alignment even when I'm right and they are wrong I won't convince them if I upset them and than I lose.

as town it's a way of finding your teammates tho

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147915588249862185 Imagine having a family that doesn't hate your guts just for being you Couldn't be me... mostly.

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147912069992153169 I'm sorry but... you are simply wrong lol

he might be town but not for that. that is in his scumrange and in fact is really common for him to say it as scum. sorry for i know vee way better than you do

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147912310468378674 I really hate that you feel the need to say I'm wrong on anything I say. I'm sorry but your fucking wrong so pls stop discrediting me at every corner and let the people I'm talking about speak when I say stuff about them. Pls. Thank you.

well if i see something i dont agree with i say it out loud sorry. im not wrong, but i cant let you keep getting this into a direction i feel is not good

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147912729038962839 For what it's worth he should stop

i will when people stop voting him

☆Princess Abigail☆

Like I don't care about defending your town read make a town case whatever but taking the pressure off them and saying every thing is towny helps absolutely zero

not when it is actually towny lol

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147929479788892261 ... clearly you've never played mafia on MU

2:50 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147930335770841269 Where have I not followed up on anything I've said?

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147913008836792412 You should probs answer it if you didn't already

it just felt coming from a genuine mindset of finding the like deep behind thought of someone to determine their alignment rather than superficially look for smth to push or an easy pocket

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147913505350094960 I'm sorry but. There's a reason towny indignation is a viable read. Town and scum approach this very differently.

yeah but vee approaches the way he thinks he would as town. he can still be town sure but that isnt impossible to come from scum

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147932157520646266 This reads list is tragic

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147913566758903890 That's okay after they flip town you should listen to me though

idek if he's flipping and...we'll see

How the fuck am I ever aligned with either of Thom or Ice?

2:52 p.m.

Your scum reading both my scum reads And placing them with me?

2:52 p.m.

Wtf is this?

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147913776864165958 Sip

already said this but sorry for that

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147929479788892261 ... clearly you've never played mafia on MU

1. and would like to keep it that way ye

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147936539255525539 This... is actually probably town. Huh.

2. given the context idt thom did that just there

2:53 p.m.

that's it

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147945507503742996 ???

2:54 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147950611451621456 I don't know what you're saying about me and Caitlin here

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147932157520646266 This reads list is tragic

i've seen worse

2:54 p.m.

(not referring to yours btw)

☆Princess Abigail☆

How the fuck am I ever aligned with either of Thom or Ice?

lindauna's post never implied that...they are just individual reads

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147963559519727727 Yo wtf that's cool

icet/thom both mafs is also lowkey unlikely

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147964844381835366 I'm pretty sure saying Abigail is like this person there for they are a deep wolf like this person was is in fact doing the thing you say it's not doing

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147936539255525539 This... is actually probably town. Huh.

i actually think 1st and 3rd are towny but the 2nd is...not great as he clearly didnt know thom suggested lynching me at that time which gives me an indicator that he hasnt read anything happening around that, which is when lindauna had like most of her contributions

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147965125148545144 I do too Problem is that when it can't load the preview it also doesn't let you see the message and so for like half your replies I have zero idea wtf you were even replying to Clicking on "this message could not be loaded" does nothing

2:57 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147965493743976590 I really need you to stop getting in my way.

2:58 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147965702301569246 Is it? Or is it a way of making your teammates subconsciously tune you out forever?

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147964844381835366 I'm pretty sure saying Abigail is like this person there for they are a deep wolf like this person was is in fact doing the thing you say it's not doing

it isnt a therefore they are, it's based on similarities to past experiences, i'm afraid this might be another case of a deepwolf in this game

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147965972347621426 shrugs I know someone better than you hardly compells me

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147965125148545144 I do too Problem is that when it can't load the preview it also doesn't let you see the message and so for like half your replies I have zero idea wtf you were even replying to Clicking on "this message could not be loaded" does nothing

oh F, for me even when it says message cant be loaded (on phone at least) it still sends me there when i click it

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147965493743976590 I really need you to stop getting in my way.

i will if i think i should, that's the thing

2:59 p.m.

sorry

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147966459700576317 No you should probably let me play the game without continuously going Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147965702301569246 Is it? Or is it a way of making your teammates subconsciously tune you out forever?

both kinda, everyone finds the mafia their own way

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147965972347621426 shrugs I know someone better than you hardly compells me

idrc, it's true and you tried to use that as an argument for cait town previously so...

‍♂️

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147966459700576317 No you should probably let me play the game without continuously going Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong

idt im wrong tho

‍♂️

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147967149332246538 Your telling me not to town read someone for doing a towny thing cause they MIGHT be scum for doing the towny thing Which just... doesn't work. Anyone might be scum for any single action in a game you play the probabilities until FX than reeval everything

3:01 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147966940283936798 If you think this than why are you attacking everything I try to push?

you're calling towny "i as town do this" or what this refers to?

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147967374792872057 hugs don't be shrugs you don't need to believe in me or my style.

idt im attacking im just countering it bc i think it's wrong

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147967785562026155 I haven't

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147967374792872057 hugs don't be shrugs you don't need to believe in me or my style.

doesnt matter, there is no reason or need to say it like that, no excuse for that even if i have complete opposite reads (which idt is the case like that extreme ftr), therefore yeah i apologize

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147967956349898833 Bro I swear to all that is holy let me play the game omg Every time you take something I say and give someone an answer you give them an out they wouldn't have had if you simply... didn't play white knight holy fuck I'm pushing the things I'm pushing for a reason screams And even if what you've said is true... which I will never know now since I can't trust that Linduana isn't just copying the out you've given... if you scum read BOTH people I've pushed it is a logical fallacy irregardless of pairing to also scum read me.

3:05 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147968046766505995 Oh it's entirely impossible they unpaired a long time ago but I'm not gonna go find it

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147968046766505995 Oh it's entirely impossible they unpaired a long time ago but I'm not gonna go find it

yep agreed

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147968432290144297 Shrugs the post as a whole is just pure tonal towny with some towny indignation thrown in. It's pretty good.

glad we do there :D

3:07 p.m.

abigail is town atp

3:07 p.m.

honestly

3:07 p.m.

not just tl

3:07 p.m.

i'll say town

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147909764672651335 How am I casting a wide not? I'm looking for town reads. My scum reads are pretty focused and contained right now.

i meant zenons law is casting a wide net

@lindauna tonally and engagement wise she just...is trying to solve her way and find mafias

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147969372753756302 Yes but what you refuse to acknowledge is that my hard defense of Cait in that game was mostly a faked confidence by EoD and I had every intent to cop her at night. I wasn't just blindly saying it my whole intent was to protect her until I could check her.

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147910840784269333 Fighting with your teammates is defs not a good way to play mafia... working together is how you win games. I've been getting mentored in FM by one of the best mafia players in the world and he's been pushing me to work with my teammates more. He says my single biggest weakness is how I start fights with my team as either alignment even when I'm right and they are wrong I won't convince them if I upset them and than I lose.

lmao at this. way easier it seems for you to talk about this. + its wrong but ok

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147968432290144297 Shrugs the post as a whole is just pure tonal towny with some towny indignation thrown in. It's pretty good.

yeah that's what i meant with the 1st and the 3rd

3:09 p.m.

tonally it is towny

3:09 p.m.

im pointing out the part that concerned me

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147969455079571476 It doesn't matter if your wrong nge it matters if you prevent me from playing the game which you are doing... every... single... post

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147969372753756302 Yes but what you refuse to acknowledge is that my hard defense of Cait in that game was mostly a faked confidence by EoD and I had every intent to cop her at night. I wasn't just blindly saying it my whole intent was to protect her until I could check her.

how do you know im not cop planning to that this time

‍♂️

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147970184037007482 I accept your apology even if I don't think it's needed ^^ hugs thank you

so abigail TRs vee

yeah

3:10 p.m.

but i dont

so we got 2 worlds basically

3:11 p.m.

vee + aby vs us

eh

I sort of like some of what abigail is saying now its hard to say because I think they looked worse SoD

probs but i think abi's town

and i think they're a player who gets better the more they volley back and forth with people

3:12 p.m.

lynching vee is like

3:12 p.m.

it realy just hinges on a few things

3:12 p.m.

at the end of the day

gth vee, thom, icet towns

3:12 p.m.

WAIT NO

3:12 p.m.

NOT VEE

3:12 p.m.

ABI***

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147971117986885694 BTW I'm not just saying this because you're calling me town but you are also town My rationale is simple. You continue to close the door on every person being pushed. Your taking options OFF the table. If it was 1 I'd say you were pocketing, maybe your pocketing and protecting a teammate but you have now taken 3 options for pushes off the table for yourself and I just don't believe scum do that.

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147971117986885694 BTW I'm not just saying this because you're calling me town but you are also town My rationale is simple. You continue to close the door on every person being pushed. Your taking options OFF the table. If it was 1 I'd say you were pocketing, maybe your pocketing and protecting a teammate but you have now taken 3 options for pushes off the table for yourself and I just don't believe scum do that.

sorry

3:13 p.m.

i do regret lowkey the lindauna one

3:13 p.m.

i shouldve let her respond there

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147971345603366963 Is it? While it exists it is simply a base line. I don't sit there and go everyone in this 4 is a suspect I solve and keep it in the back of my head. I don't even remember the 4 names I think Luka was one I town read them lol

with thom i defer tho

3:14 p.m.

i didnt hard defend him on his behalf bc he was already there yk

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147971523471229029 What?

doesnt matter rn

3:14 p.m.

leave it there

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147971717273223259 I don't I really don't think you are though

i think it's obv thom has a really unconventional playstyle

Ngekop

gth vee, thom, icet towns

3:15 p.m.

I know it was a mistake

3:15 p.m.

But I needed to do that

3:16 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147972747679502517 It's all good at this point at least I found you

3:16 p.m.

Unconventional isn't code for let them be hedgy and scummy

3:16 p.m.

Anyways

3:17 p.m.

Town Core Vee Cait Nge Luka Ice

3:17 p.m.

I kinda dig it

3:17 p.m.

Statistically speaking one of them is actually a wolf lol

☆Princess Abigail☆

Unconventional isn't code for let them be hedgy and scummy

oh i know

But I don't care until FX

☆Princess Abigail☆

Statistically speaking one of them is actually a wolf lol

vee or cait

3:17 p.m.

or luk

3:17 p.m.

a

3:17 p.m.

actually idk im scared

3:18 p.m.

mine is thom/abi/icet

3:18 p.m.

i think

Last game ended my career and I do not actually trust myself which honestly is partly why I've taken so long to make reads on most of this core

lindauna has given towny approaches and contrary to what icet said i think she hasnt just going with consensus and sheeping which is good

I think Luka could be and likely is the most likely scum in my list

that said i still might need to reevaluate

3:18 p.m.

on how genuine she's being

Because I made that read early and for probably weak reasons

to where she is leaning

☆Princess Abigail☆

Last game ended my career and I do not actually trust myself which honestly is partly why I've taken so long to make reads on most of this core

so look

3:19 p.m.

idgaf if you're wrong, you do provide a lot to the game

3:19 p.m.

it's just

3:19 p.m.

really hard

3:19 p.m.

to solve d1

3:19 p.m.

and last game you only had

3:19 p.m.

one day to play

Cait is town I think for her approach to me. The one thing I didn't like is that her read seemed to shift with how I was reading her but things like trying to force Zenon's Law just because she thought it would be right and wanted to make me happy...I don't think scum thinks like that or tries to force it. Her stubbornness on her thoughts on everything also is something more towny for her I find that as scum she tries to be less in your face and combative. But... I'm gonna get accused of just town reading my girlfriend either way lol

☆Princess Abigail☆

Cait is town I think for her approach to me. The one thing I didn't like is that her read seemed to shift with how I was reading her but things like trying to force Zenon's Law just because she thought it would be right and wanted to make me happy...I don't think scum thinks like that or tries to force it. Her stubbornness on her thoughts on everything also is something more towny for her I find that as scum she tries to be less in your face and combative. But... I'm gonna get accused of just town reading my girlfriend either way lol

that was ridiculous last game

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147974240147091566 Maybe but... I'm a perfectionist and I've defs had perfect town cores on day 1 multiple times so I hate myself if I'm wrong especially when I towned both wolfs

even if you were wrong

3:22 p.m.

however at least for example thom just approached it saying he wouldnt just sheep you in the read which is fair

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147974240147091566 Maybe but... I'm a perfectionist and I've defs had perfect town cores on day 1 multiple times so I hate myself if I'm wrong especially when I towned both wolfs

hmm...i mean it can go both ways

3:23 p.m.

sometimes mafia just plays really well

3:23 p.m.

or town doesnt like yk

3:23 p.m.

towntell

3:23 p.m.

it's not smth you can do on your own

3:24 p.m.

as good as you can be, you can be role even if it's bc of bad town teammates that doesnt allow town core

3:24 p.m.

and/or

3:24 p.m.

great mafia that doesnt allow them to be in the top sr's

I pride myself on finding town that isn't town telling is the problem

3:25 p.m.

Go read any game with me and Rem

3:25 p.m.

I've found her in 10 posts or less every game while she was being "wolfy"

3:26 p.m.

I know my history here suggests I suck ass and I do... but I play the way I do because I suck slightly less when I do this

@☆Princess Abigail☆ still look you even called me out on omgusing a lot ye? and thom has seen that...when he is getting 3 votes piling up + cait sr'ing him outside...and me coming in his defense...dont you think he'd at the very least be open to what my alignment can be? he didnt even sr me, he said to lynch me for a reason that still annoys me and that if i didnt think he's town i wouldve already voted him or at least let y'all lynch him

3:26 p.m.

i know scum can do that but you think thom would do it in all this particular scenario that quick?

3:27 p.m.

i just dont see it

☆Princess Abigail☆

I pride myself on finding town that isn't town telling is the problem

same so i get that

Do I think it's likely townier than not

(look at me tl'ing thom)

Maybe

3:27 p.m.

Do I think it undoes all the scummy behavior

3:27 p.m.

Not really

3:27 p.m.

I'm not voting Vee

im not voting thom

3:27 p.m.

and we're kinda

3:28 p.m.

reaching an impasse

I'm not voting Luka

oooor we compromise in somoene else

I'm not voting Ice

someone*

Maybe I'd vote Sam

☆Princess Abigail☆

I'm not voting Ice

neither am i

All these wagons such

3:28 p.m.

Suck*

☆Princess Abigail☆

Maybe I'd vote Sam

yep i was thinking that

3:28 p.m.

but it sucks that im just thinking that bc of yk

3:28 p.m.

he hasnt been able to do anything

@Tommy2Hands @☆Princess Abigail☆ youre cute ily but when you quote posts with links can you also quote the post

like this

to make it more readable for me please

3:29 p.m.

its hard to backread and know your thoughts

icet is so cute seriously

I'll avoid Thom for today just for you bb

omg

3:29 p.m.

❤️

3:30 p.m.

ugh i'll correspond to that with not vee

nvm abi linked too much for me to read

ok but

3:30 p.m.

abi

3:30 p.m.

dont you think you hard defending vee

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147976602945331242

<@1126633762260795453> <@808135576057675787> youre cute ily but when you quote posts with links can you also quote the post

> like this

to make it more readable for me please

That sounds like so much work... that I don't want to do But everyone should do it for every post probably but God sends help

is kinda shutting it for me the way you were calling me out on doing it to you?

Omh

3:30 p.m.

Omg*

bc vee is probs the person i feel the most confident on being able to eventually read correctly

3:31 p.m.

and putting him under pressure is

3:31 p.m.

a helpful thing to get there

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147976602945331242

<@1126633762260795453> <@808135576057675787> youre cute ily but when you quote posts with links can you also quote the post

> like this

to make it more readable for me please

That sounds like so much work... that I don't want to do But everyone should do it for every post probably but God sends help

I do it

Danger!? Luka!

I do it

thats why ur the cutest

3:32 p.m.

Ngekop

is kinda shutting it for me the way you were calling me out on doing it to you?

is kinda shutting it for me the way you were calling me out on doing it to you? Okay so the thing is... I'm letting you push Vee. The only thing I've used to defend Vee is my own read. You engaged me on MY read but I've avoided engaging you on yours and will continue to do so until EoD

now read my pings please ty

Danger!? Luka!

Wrong imo

Marker

Danger!? Luka!

I do it

I do it :MikuMad: Yes thank you beautiful. Now if everyone else could do it this game would be more readable lol

☆Princess Abigail☆

is kinda shutting it for me the way you were calling me out on doing it to you? Okay so the thing is... I'm letting you push Vee. The only thing I've used to defend Vee is my own read. You engaged me on MY read but I've avoided engaging you on yours and will continue to do so until EoD

yeah but the only one i can relate that part is to lindauna bc the rest have kinda posted enough already and responded to most of the stuff said against them

☆Princess Abigail☆

I do it :MikuMad: Yes thank you beautiful. Now if everyone else could do it this game would be more readable lol

Ayayaya

Ngekop

yeah but the only one i can relate that part is to lindauna bc the rest have kinda posted enough already and responded to most of the stuff said against them

I might start putting who said it too Nge:

yeah but the only one i can relate that part is to lindauna bc the rest have kinda posted enough already and responded to most of the stuff said against them

I'm not really sure what you mean

3:35 p.m.

Hmm

3:35 p.m.

I like that makes the game easy to read and than I can reply normally

3:35 p.m.

UwU

☆Princess Abigail☆

I might start putting who said it too Nge:

yeah but the only one i can relate that part is to lindauna bc the rest have kinda posted enough already and responded to most of the stuff said against them

I'm not really sure what you mean

i am really sorry i cant do that quote thingy bc even my keyboard doesnt make it easier like i have to change it to english and then guess which key(s) to press to get there

3:36 p.m.

to the other thing is that idt i have defended thom and icet for them

Fair and valid lol

3:36 p.m.

The first part

bc they have already answered to much of the stuff that has been said against them

☆Princess Abigail☆

The first part

yeah ik what you meant lol

Ngekop

i am really sorry i cant do that quote thingy bc even my keyboard doesnt make it easier like i have to change it to english and then guess which key(s) to press to get there

` and >

3:38 p.m.

I do think you've heavily defended Ice and Thom from every question I've pushed them on directly which is my point. I'm not protecting Vee from you I'm protecting the reason behind my personal read on Vee You are protecting ice and Thom against MY reads not protecting your take from me

on mobile you can click copy text

3:38 p.m.

for meta reasons if nge is scum btw idt its with abi or caitlin

Alright I'm gonna go do 30 minutes of my part time job

3:39 p.m.

Bbl

glhf

Danger?! Icet!

` and >

i dont have those keys bro

☆Princess Abigail☆

I do think you've heavily defended Ice and Thom from every question I've pushed them on directly which is my point. I'm not protecting Vee from you I'm protecting the reason behind my personal read on Vee You are protecting ice and Thom against MY reads not protecting your take from me

idt it's been most of the case regarding thom given im mainly defending him with the stuff i pointed out

3:41 p.m.

kinda same with icet bc the other stuff i've given imo is just explaining context that was obv what he meant

3:41 p.m.

like the stuff about previous games you didnt understand

Danger?! Icet!

on mobile you can click copy text

yeah im on pc tho

3:41 p.m.

:/

Danger?! Icet!

for meta reasons if nge is scum btw idt its with abi or caitlin

i-

3:42 p.m.

if you say im towny i get it but

3:42 p.m.

why not with cait specifically

Ngekop

yeah im on pc tho

Ngekop

why not with cait specifically

because you said you tryhard and sweat as wolf if you have fun wolf partners aka cait and abi (ive never been wolf with them but this is my perspective on it)

3:43 p.m.

ur not sweating here

Danger?! Icet!

Click to see attachment 🖼️

yeah i can copy it

Danger?! Icet!

` and >

but i dont have these

3:43 p.m.

as in i dont have a way to format it

i gotta go to work but dont vote me

funny keyboard

3:44 p.m.

why is luka still on me?

it's just the regular spanish keyboard lol

3:44 p.m.

i do agree tho that

ok anyways this is abi bye

less and greater than

3:44 p.m.

would be really convenient to have

Danger?! Icet!

ok anyways this is abi bye

that's dartrevas

What's the current votecount, @IZinzanity?

ok so

3:45 p.m.

why are you voting abigail now??

3:45 p.m.

@Tommy2Hands

i said they wre my sr

3:46 p.m.

i prefer them to vee slightly, i would be willing to vote Vee depending on how the wagon goes

you said you liked her recent content

yea but the whole point was that, i think she gets better as the game progresses and she can start playing against stuff that is real and logical

3:47 p.m.

she can defend or just like, ask a question in response against stuff thrown against her after a while

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147913008836792412

i just woke up, if i feel in the mood of answering this later after finishing catching up i will

Ngekop

Please do answer it https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147913154639167569

i think we vote nge today maybe

Thom

Why? I dont think nge has done anything thats like. super super scummy, and this contradicts with https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147950690849800212 this statement. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147913283911823380

he honestly isnt doing much and i think he has scum equity or whatver

Honestly disagree, I think they did alot early game. Mid game it can just be excused as they're asleep / have no motivation to play, this does not feel like a strong reason to push. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147913776864165958

as always time to ignore this

Ngekop

Why? Even if you dont agree with it, it gives insight into abbis general line of thought, no? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147915597875794021

I agree with not voting vee, you don’t vote afk slots when you have sls in the thread

Lind

The point of voting vee is that they did scummy things, not becuase they're afk. I dont like reducing this to just pushing an AFK. Im not replying to anything nge replied to (Shows Message could not be loaded for me, not in the mood to try to decipher what it was.) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147921603410272288

why are you guys voting thom

Nge

Why are you defending thom? Did they do anything you like? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147923315948785744

if he's maf he knows that is never going through and it's just completely absurd to say that

Nah its fine, if you flip town thats kinda great for mafia. A good player gone and a legacy TL/TR on thom. I do agree that paints them in a slgihtly good light but not good enough to not be voted today? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147930558459039826

abigail + sam/another lower post is possible

Thom

Abbi is good, there is no reason to suspect them imo. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147930732665258056

I would rather look into slots that lean scum before voting out afks because you only vote out afks if you have no better read

Lindauna

Vee does lean scum https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147930808687013969

wasnt luka TRing everyone

Thom

Sure, but nge was too. And not everybody. My current list is Town Lock: Abbi Town: Nge, Cait Town Lean: Linduana Null: Not Mentioned Scum Lean: Thom, Ice https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147932157520646266

scum: icet, thom, abigail

Linduana

Can you explain the abbi scum lean? I agree with everything else.

this is only for second half of day 1, for day 2 its different

Danger?! Icet!

ok anyways this is abi bye

Ice: ok anyways this is abi bye I'm... actually offended

I don't think that's you at all :/

3:47 p.m.

Like

☆Princess Abigail☆

Ice: ok anyways this is abi bye I'm... actually offended

I meant luka my apologies

Not even in the slightest

3:47 p.m.

Oh

nge dropped

sigh I should read chat sometime

Town lock?

3:48 p.m.

why is luka using this terminology

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147950611451621456|

Thom

Once again why Abbi? There odens't seem to be any reason to suspect her. Also, why do you have cait as town, idt youve ever explained it.

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Why are you so sure of Abbi anyway Luka

i explained it later luka, you can stop asking

nah no thank

yea i dont understand why you're so confident

3:49 p.m.

to the point of locking her

I'm just so towny

Danger!? Luka!

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147913008836792412

i just woke up, if i feel in the mood of answering this later after finishing catching up i will

Ngekop

Please do answer it https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147913154639167569

i think we vote nge today maybe

Thom

Why? I dont think nge has done anything thats like. super super scummy, and this contradicts with https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147950690849800212 this statement. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147913283911823380

he honestly isnt doing much and i think he has scum equity or whatver

Honestly disagree, I think they did alot early game. Mid game it can just be excused as they're asleep / have no motivation to play, this does not feel like a strong reason to push. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147913776864165958

as always time to ignore this

Ngekop

Why? Even if you dont agree with it, it gives insight into abbis general line of thought, no? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147915597875794021

I agree with not voting vee, you don’t vote afk slots when you have sls in the thread

Lind

The point of voting vee is that they did scummy things, not becuase they're afk. I dont like reducing this to just pushing an AFK. Im not replying to anything nge replied to (Shows Message could not be loaded for me, not in the mood to try to decipher what it was.) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147921603410272288

why are you guys voting thom

Nge

Why are you defending thom? Did they do anything you like? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147923315948785744

if he's maf he knows that is never going through and it's just completely absurd to say that

Nah its fine, if you flip town thats kinda great for mafia. A good player gone and a legacy TL/TR on thom. I do agree that paints them in a slgihtly good light but not good enough to not be voted today? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147930558459039826

abigail + sam/another lower post is possible

Thom

Abbi is good, there is no reason to suspect them imo. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147930732665258056

I would rather look into slots that lean scum before voting out afks because you only vote out afks if you have no better read

Lindauna

Vee does lean scum https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147930808687013969

wasnt luka TRing everyone

Thom

Sure, but nge was too. And not everybody. My current list is Town Lock: Abbi Town: Nge, Cait Town Lean: Linduana Null: Not Mentioned Scum Lean: Thom, Ice https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147932157520646266

scum: icet, thom, abigail

Linduana

Can you explain the abbi scum lean? I agree with everything else.

luka has fallen from town lock to town null

thats up for debate

☆Princess Abigail☆

I'm just so towny

You're towny but not lock town imo

I mean

You haven't done either of your 2 main town tells yet

Caitlin

Why are you so sure of Abbi anyway Luka

They seem genuine. Thats kind of it. They're also mimicking there behaovir from ne44, I cant point out a single message that just screams townie, but what I can say is that so far from my pov not only do they have no scummy messages, all of there messages seem genuine and I agree with the reasoning to get there. The thought process doesn't feel feigned

she also hasnt really been towny outside of back and forths

3:49 p.m.

no solo content

Danger?! Icet!

luka has fallen from town lock to town null

never reviewing the NKS

I...huh? What do you think my town tells are

Back and forths should contribute to stuff tho

Danger!? Luka!

never reviewing the NKS

bringing out game unrelated content is unfair

it should but some players are good at masking their alignment in that

3:50 p.m.

like you last game

3:50 p.m.

came off very towny

Danger?! Icet!

bringing out game unrelated content is unfair

L

☆Princess Abigail☆

I...huh? What do you think my town tells are

1) Being very very sure on a townread, even going as far as offering to be voted out over them. Accompanied with just very clearly caring about said player staying alive

welp time for me to go, see you all.

If you do smth like that, you're town

luka is scum

dont vote me vote abi, luka, and vee unless the previous two are on that wagon

2) Being very sacrifice'y, this is kinda like 1, but also like 'if I'm sussed then maybe I should be voted out'

3:51 p.m.

.-.

3:51 p.m.

Ofcourse

3:51 p.m.

Due to context

3:51 p.m.

This doesn't count

3:51 p.m.

But Abbi I don't sus you :/

why is abi self voting

I just don't think you're locktown

Danger?! Icet!

why is abi self voting

Read the chat

I stg I didn't just self vote cause you said that

3:51 p.m.

XD

Oh

3:51 p.m.

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147936539255525539 This... is actually probably town. Huh.

They sent a similar message during a mafia.gg game as scum so Im not reading into it very much CaitlinSleeper

But you said it rgiht after I said self voting is townie for you

I self voted before I read that

did it right after*

3:51 p.m.

Oh

Caitlin

Read the chat

the chat says nothing about it

Anyways

Why did you self vote then

Time to test Luka

wait

3:52 p.m.

nvm

You're at L2 and no

3:52 p.m.

We're not gonna test Luka

Cause I'm top wagon

3:52 p.m.

And I wanna treat luka

3:52 p.m.

But also

Danger!? Luka!

They seem genuine. Thats kind of it. They're also mimicking there behaovir from ne44, I cant point out a single message that just screams townie, but what I can say is that so far from my pov not only do they have no scummy messages, all of there messages seem genuine and I agree with the reasoning to get there. The thought process doesn't feel feigned

I see

I'm top wagon

3:52 p.m.

So kill me

@Ngekop

3:52 p.m.

im like

~~Why does this feel like TMI~~

And than sheep me

75% certain luka is scum now

3:52 p.m.

this is their scum meta

3:52 p.m.

this is what they did in my first game

Why is IceT literally

3:52 p.m.

Stealing my read

3:52 p.m.

I'm voting you

3:52 p.m.

Now I don't wanna sus LUka

3:52 p.m.

Luka

☆Princess Abigail☆

And than sheep me

Ice/Luka/Vee towncore?

Tommy2Hands

i explained it later luka, you can stop asking

You litearlly did not

3:53 p.m.

btw

Test Luka test Luka test Luka test Luka

Caitlin

Stealing my read

Caitlin

Ice/Luka/Vee towncore?

Oh and me & Ngekop too

3:53 p.m.

So that leaves...

Caitlin

Ice/Luka/Vee towncore?

+ you and Nge If I'm wrong on one it's Luka

3:53 p.m.

Yes

Sam/Thom/Lindauna

Dont test me here I will actually do it

3:54 p.m.

Actually abbi is prob the one person I wont hammer

@Tommy2Hands @lindauna One of you unvote

maybe

Oh

Danger!? Luka!

Actually abbi is prob the one person I wont hammer

You said you'd hammer yourself

Caitlin

You said you'd hammer yourself

yeah id hammer myself

But if Luka and Ice don't trust each other I might actually call that a diff check

Luka is just blatantly TMI'ing Abbi it feels like

☆Princess Abigail☆

But if Luka and Ice don't trust each other I might actually call that a diff check

Ye

Danger!? Luka!

Actually abbi is prob the one person I wont hammer

scumka

im willing to ruin my own game by hammering myself im not willing to ruin somebody elses game by hammering them when I think theyre town

3:54 p.m.

simple as that

Luka: Actually abbi is prob the one person I wont hammer This no bueno

Danger?! Icet!

this is what they did in my first game

What

But you should be more sure of yourself being town than Abbi?

Not during the baron game

☆Princess Abigail☆

Luka: Actually abbi is prob the one person I wont hammer This no bueno

Ikr

Danger!? Luka!

What

in this server

Caitlin

But you should be more sure of yourself being town than Abbi?

Sure but im willing to ruin my own game by hammering myslef

~~I like how everyone here is mindmelding on Luka being scum rn~~

im not williing to ruin somebody elses game by hammering them when I think theyre town

3:55 p.m.

simple asthat

Danger!? Luka!

Not during the baron game

baron game was the funniest game ever I loved it

Test Luka

Do it

L2 sigh

Do it

literally every scum suicided

Do it

town didnt do ANYTHING

Vote them

No

3:55 p.m.

I'm not gonna

3:55 p.m.

Put someone to L1

Plsss

Danger?! Icet!

baron game was the funniest game ever I loved it

I wanna be scum with you

3:55 p.m.

again

No Abbi

Danger!? Luka!

I wanna be scum with you

me 2

Sorry :(

but im not your partner

3:56 p.m.

its someone else

3:56 p.m.

sorry

It has only bad consequences

i think luka/vee has one maf

3:56 p.m.

and exactly one

That's a sus af read to make

I think Luka Ice has one mafia

based on how luka shaded vee over his wallpost

I don't like TvS reads smh

we need one more vote on me

☆Princess Abigail☆

I think Luka Ice has one mafia

Like this one makes sense

Caitlin

I don't like TvS reads smh

i know you dont and idc

Cause they are 1000% a diff check

Ngekop

based on how luka shaded vee over his wallpost

that was a wall post without direction I honestly have no clue who I shaded over it

Caitlin

Like this one makes sense

i sl luka and vee

3:56 p.m.

and they arent teamed

3:56 p.m.

so

3:56 p.m.

TvS

3:56 p.m.

‍♂️

Ig

@Danger!? Luka! also plz read NKs ty

3:57 p.m.

I need it by tmrw then I can make NEs

Danger?! Icet!

@Danger!? Luka! also plz read NKs ty

nya

3:57 p.m.

sur

Last game me & Luka only killed Abigail to PR hunt

Danger!? Luka!

that was a wall post without direction I honestly have no clue who I shaded over it

you were repeatedly pointing out vee was actually scummy and discrediting defenses on him

Danger?! Icet!

I need it by tmrw then I can make NEs

okay ill do it tn

So Idt NK's are that useful

I'm changing my town core to just me Nge and Cait until I solve Luka/Ice

Danger!? Luka!

sur

☆Princess Abigail☆

I'm changing my town core to just me Nge and Cait until I solve Luka/Ice

What about um

3:57 p.m.

The other person that was in it

3:57 p.m.

Vee

And Ver

3:57 p.m.

Vee*

Caitlin

So Idt NK's are that useful

not night kills something else only me and luka out

3:57 p.m.

know*

Oh

lindauna

town: nge, caitlin null: luka scum: icet, thom, abigail

Btw

neutral killers

Why do you have those reads?

Ngekop

you were repeatedly pointing out vee was actually scummy and discrediting defenses on him

no im pointing out that lindaunas reasons were bad af They just turned the push to pushing an afk player for no reason when that wasnt the case

3:58 p.m.

its like if I said the vote on me was becuase of inactivity

I can't kill Luka

you can I believe in you dw ill be the one hammering myself

I would put them at L-1 to test them though but I can't kill you

I can't

3:59 p.m.

To cute and pure

ayayayaya

Murder Ice

@Ngekop vote ice

3:59 p.m.

@Danger?! Icet! self vote if good

im not voting icet when i think he's town

Danger!? Luka!

@Danger?! Icet! self vote if good

no get someone else to vote me

3:59 p.m.

im not gonna throw

Ngekop

im not voting icet when i think he's town

oh okay

Danger?! Icet!

im not gonna throw

self voting isnt throwing

Danger!? Luka!

self voting isnt throwing

im the towniest slot

youre just lying to yourself abbi > nge > cait

I think I'm leaving my vote here

TR- Ngekop/Abigail TL- Sam Null- Vee/Thom SL- Lindauna SR- Luka/IceT I'm kinda at smth like this rn Thom is bumped up to null because I think it may just be a playstyle crash Lindauna I'm unsure on, I feel like they say kinda little with regards to their reads and stuff. Like they do the bare minimum so we can't accuse them for being frozen but yet.. I do think they kinda are frozen

Someone end the day :p

Danger!? Luka!

youre just lying to yourself abbi > nge > cait

Caitlin

TR- Ngekop/Abigail TL- Sam Null- Vee/Thom SL- Lindauna SR- Luka/IceT I'm kinda at smth like this rn Thom is bumped up to null because I think it may just be a playstyle crash Lindauna I'm unsure on, I feel like they say kinda little with regards to their reads and stuff. Like they do the bare minimum so we can't accuse them for being frozen but yet.. I do think they kinda are frozen

explain the read on me?

Also don't hammer early

Explain the vote on Sam

@Danger!? Luka! can I have a reason for your read on me other than OMGUS / going with the flow i dont see why you want me dead

Early hammers win games

Caitlin

TR- Ngekop/Abigail TL- Sam Null- Vee/Thom SL- Lindauna SR- Luka/IceT I'm kinda at smth like this rn Thom is bumped up to null because I think it may just be a playstyle crash Lindauna I'm unsure on, I feel like they say kinda little with regards to their reads and stuff. Like they do the bare minimum so we can't accuse them for being frozen but yet.. I do think they kinda are frozen

why is sam tl

4:01 p.m.

Not vote

4:01 p.m.

Read

4:01 p.m.

Pol

4:01 p.m.

Loo

4:01 p.m.

Lol

4:01 p.m.

Fuck

4:01 p.m.

I quit

4:01 p.m.

Danger!? Luka!

explain the read on me?

You heavily seem to be TMIing Abigail town, your tryharding reminds me of last game & I think the hammer thing is just very antitown and also heavily distracts the conversation away from solving

^me irl after that

Ngekop

why is sam tl

Low WIM Sam is town Sam

ma50

That's an exception

4:02 p.m.

Exception proofs the rule

lol

4:02 p.m.

not really

Plus this game Sam tried to motivate himself with the Litten/Alexa thing

i can also point out

There he also just was busy

ma55 i think

Danger?! Icet!

@Danger!? Luka! can I have a reason for your read on me other than OMGUS / going with the flow i dont see why you want me dead

Literally said this since the start of the game As town you feel more relaxed / in flow imo, IE: If you look at the Virtuous / TOL Games in which as scum both there you seemed more stiff / you were constnatly in thought such as you were early game; if you look at the mafia.gg game we played together you were mostly lurking and only dropping in to say occasinonal things, all game related which is a behavior connected here.

So there it didn't come from low WIM but due to low time

in fact

Here he clearly just isn't up to play

the recent meta on sam

4:02 p.m.

has been

4:03 p.m.

low WIM scum

Caitlin

You heavily seem to be TMIing Abigail town, your tryharding reminds me of last game & I think the hammer thing is just very antitown and also heavily distracts the conversation away from solving

okay

lmao

Idk about that

not even kidding

4:03 p.m.

i do

Then vote him Ig but he prob flips green /shrug

Danger!? Luka!

Literally said this since the start of the game As town you feel more relaxed / in flow imo, IE: If you look at the Virtuous / TOL Games in which as scum both there you seemed more stiff / you were constnatly in thought such as you were early game; if you look at the mafia.gg game we played together you were mostly lurking and only dropping in to say occasinonal things, all game related which is a behavior connected here.

ok

Ngekop

i do

Well I don't

im not voting him off that, if he gets voted it'll be bc of unfortunate poe

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147915588249862185 He also said this so his inactivity today is NAI And the way he didn't have low wim yday was rlly just demotivated town Sam

bc if he is genuinely busys

4:03 p.m.

busy

4:03 p.m.

then him being afk

4:04 p.m.

is nai

But yday it was townie

yep

And I based my read on yday

4:04 p.m.

I have a townlean on him sicne then

@Caitlin why do you scum read me

Ngekop

low WIM scum

tbf ill confrim this In that: he got like 7 scum games in a row and played like 2 scum games were he was just dismotivated lol

Also still since the start when you had a super sketchy read on Luka Since then you have done practically... 0 townie things

I dont know if that was broken up since the town games but it at the very least has some evidence

Caitlin

Also still since the start when you had a super sketchy read on Luka Since then you have done practically... 0 townie things

wdym 0 townie things

4:05 p.m.

im going to

4:05 p.m.

intentionally

Idk what to explain

town slip now

There's 0

4:05 p.m.

Then it clearly doesn't count

my entire logs are town

Btw y'all there's 3 mafia

Danger?! Icet!

my entire logs are town

No

wtf

4:05 p.m.

when

. - .

Weren't you also the one that

4:06 p.m.

Made a meta read on Abbi based on someone else's meta

Caitlin

Made a meta read on Abbi based on someone else's meta

so?!?

Wel..

4:06 p.m.

That's a bad read

4:06 p.m.

Not everyone is the same person .-.

fair

So Idt you're trying to solve Abbi in good faith

but

4:07 p.m.

those are my thoughts

Honestly if ice was good they shoulda locked me good by now only reason why I scum read them(as well as the above reasons)

I

4:07 p.m.

What

4:07 p.m.

Danger!? Luka!

Honestly if ice was good they shoulda locked me good by now only reason why I scum read them(as well as the above reasons)

scumka was until they started typing paragraphs

Danger!? Luka!

Honestly if ice was good they shoulda locked me good by now only reason why I scum read them(as well as the above reasons)

literally

4:07 p.m.

you dont care about the game when ur town

Danger!? Luka!

Honestly if ice was good they shoulda locked me good by now only reason why I scum read them(as well as the above reasons)

(to be clear this is a joke sobbing)

Danger?! Icet!

you dont care about the game when ur town

nah thats only in live games

Danger!? Luka!

nah thats only in live games

thats in every game

(context during live games if im town I litearlly just stream me playing yugioh or something and ignore the game)

4:08 p.m.

uhm

Danger?! Icet!

thats in every game

thats a lie

4:08 p.m.

sometimes

4:08 p.m.

I try

4:08 p.m.

like uh

Danger!? Luka!

I try

example please

the untrusted game

4:08 p.m.

oh wiat nvm I was neutral

4:08 p.m.

uh

you werent even town

Danger?! Icet!

you werent even town

the one TB game

4:08 p.m.

where somebody insulted me

4:08 p.m.

for not doing anything

4:08 p.m.

so I slved the game

Danger!? Luka!

the one TB game

which TB game

☆Princess Abigail☆

I need this cute emoji

Huh

was it the one

4:08 p.m.

where you were virgn

Caitlin

I need this cute emoji

Hehe

4:09 p.m.

Hold on

Danger?! Icet!

which TB game

Danger?! Icet!

where you were virgn

Yes

4:09 p.m.

Somebody insulted me liek D3 so I carried the game

Danger!? Luka!

Somebody insulted me liek D3 so I carried the game

not as passionate as you are this game

4:10 p.m.

also in that game

4:10 p.m.

you just slept for like 3 days

4:10 p.m.

its only d1 go back to sleep

Danger?! Icet!

you just slept for like 3 days

I had 0 motivation to play

4:10 p.m.

to be fair

4:10 p.m.

Im sure ive tried as town before aside from this game

4:10 p.m.

I just cant think of an exmaple off the top of my head

Danger!? Luka!

Im sure ive tried as town before aside from this game

4:10 p.m.

99% scum now

4:10 p.m.

ty

Danger?! Icet!

99% scum now

during the

4:11 p.m.

anon game

4:11 p.m.

I was butler -> Good kking

Danger!? Luka!

I was butler -> Good kking

link paragraphs please

Danger?! Icet!

link paragraphs please

I didnt wall post I just yelled at people

4:12 p.m.

th etown was dead

4:12 p.m.

what could I wall post about

Danger!? Luka!

I didnt wall post I just yelled at people

you have me as scum why does it sound like youre appealing to me

4:13 p.m.

Danger?! Icet!

you have me as scum why does it sound like youre appealing to me

nah I always try to respond to critisism

4:13 p.m.

I dont even know why youre trying to accuse me with that angle

4:13 p.m.

if somebody calls me scum

4:13 p.m.

even fi theyre literally outed

4:13 p.m.

I respond to them

fair

4:15 p.m.

@Danger!? Luka! read nks now please

4:15 p.m.

the game starts tmrw

4:15 p.m.

need to finish today

Danger?! Icet!

fair

That aside though, if youre seriously using an ever changing playstyle as a method to accuse me, and thats your only thing that you think is scummy, then i have no words

Danger?! Icet!

the game starts tmrw

fuck

4:15 p.m.

really

only 3 roles

4:15 p.m.

quick and easy

4:15 p.m.

Danger!? Luka!

That aside though, if youre seriously using an ever changing playstyle as a method to accuse me, and thats your only thing that you think is scummy, then i have no words

it has been 100% accurate

ok guys i

4:16 p.m.

am going to be away for

4:17 p.m.

a lot

4:17 p.m.

might pop in here and there to check what's on but

bye ngekop

wont be here this frequent

will you be here for eod

ofc lol it's in 24h that thing

4:17 p.m.

24-25

I might be here at EoD might not

4:18 p.m.

Probably not

4:18 p.m.

Starting tmrw my availability drastically drops

;-;

Jal pinned a message to this channel. 2023-09-03 8:06 p.m.

@Tommy2Hands can you vote luka or vee so i can vote there

8:18 p.m.

Im not letting vee go like that if he fr doesnt say anything at all

8:18 p.m.

@Vee

im at work rn

Im tired

8:29 p.m.

why am I the vote over icet

Danger!? Luka!

why am I the vote over icet

skill issue

Danger!? Luka!

why am I the vote over icet

@Ngekop

im bleeding town

8:32 p.m.

u arent

Ice literally how

8:32 p.m.

Im to tired to deal with this

8:32 p.m.

watch charlotte with me or stop saying bs

Danger!? Luka!

watch charlotte with me or stop saying bs

i need to fnish anarchic firsst

Danger?! Icet!

i need to fnish anarchic firsst

Procrastinate it

8:33 p.m.

anyways

8:33 p.m.

about game

8:33 p.m.

tel me why yore bleeding town

Danger!? Luka!

tel me why yore bleeding town

all my takes and actions have been towny

8:34 p.m.

ill only ISO myself in f3

8:34 p.m.

too much work

Danger?! Icet!

all my takes and actions have been towny

Give 5 examples

Danger?! Icet!

ill only ISO myself in f3

Then stop saying BS if you arent willing to do

8:34 p.m.

anything

Danger!? Luka!

Then stop saying BS if you arent willing to do

wdym

Stop saying "Im bleeding town" if you arent willing to show why other than "towny"

8:35 p.m.

its honestly a bit frustrating atp

I am a Town Citizen. My partners are Ngekop Vee Thom Caitlin Sam Lind. The Mafia are Luka the Rolecop and Abi the Goon. Sam is the Tracker while Caitlin is the Doctor. There are no chats for me to join.

Danger!? Luka!

Stop saying "Im bleeding town" if you arent willing to show why other than "towny"

idk why I need to like

8:36 p.m.

show im town

8:36 p.m.

thast your job to determine my alignment not mines

@Danger!? Luka! ily sorry if ur frustrated tho

Danger?! Icet!

@Danger!? Luka! ily sorry if ur frustrated tho

Its more of a

8:46 p.m.

my head hurts

8:46 p.m.

so I cant really deal with this rn

8:46 p.m.

I also like. hate being wagoned

8:46 p.m.

especially when I consider it really unjust

Danger!? Luka!

especially when I consider it really unjust

bestie

8:46 p.m.

I should be locked town to you

8:47 p.m.

your arguments for me being scum make no sense

8:47 p.m.

anon / virt I actively struggled to make logs (not hob bc HOB I was literally Mafia Mayor)

Ive already re-evaled you to not locked town. I even had you town lean at one point

8:47 p.m.

wdym

Danger?! Icet!

anon / virt I actively struggled to make logs (not hob bc HOB I was literally Mafia Mayor)

In hob you struggled to make logs too

8:47 p.m.

to defend my

Danger?! Icet!

anon / virt I actively struggled to make logs (not hob bc HOB I was literally Mafia Mayor)

you said it yourself

e

Danger!? Luka!

to defend my

how

8:47 p.m.

literally

8:47 p.m.

I defended you so hard

8:48 p.m.

I was busy when you were being wagoned tho

no when you were scm converted you were kinda otued scum when you defended me is my point

8:48 p.m.

the wagon there was unjust too

8:48 p.m.

the reason was shitty

8:48 p.m.

I forgot what it was

Danger!? Luka!

no when you were scm converted you were kinda otued scum when you defended me is my point

ok am I outed scum here for defending my partner

Danger!? Luka!

the reason was shitty

the Neutrals formed an alliance and sheeped 2 townies

please stop reply pinging me

8:48 p.m.

I dont wanna turn them off

8:48 p.m.

but its making noise

8:48 p.m.

head hurt

r u ok

8:48 p.m.

are you still sick

Danger?! Icet!

the Neutrals formed an alliance and sheeped 2 townies

oh yeah

Danger?! Icet!

are you still sick

no lukily just head killing me

Danger?! Icet!

r u ok

thanks for asking <3

also

8:49 p.m.

what

8:49 p.m.

youre not top wagon

8:49 p.m.

its only me / nge

im cnofident they can sheep thom / the other preson too

8:49 p.m.

at the very least

8:49 p.m.

and idt cait would like. super mind me flipping

wagonomics is real

so im still kinda top wagon from my pov even if its not like. real

anyways

If abbi flips tho I will riot

still voting you since im not locked town

8:50 p.m.

will vote you tho when your head stops hurting

honestly if I were scum

8:50 p.m.

I would have already called you lockd town

8:50 p.m.

but oky

Danger?! Icet!

will vote you tho when your head stops hurting

nah continue vting me

8:50 p.m.

dont like. do that please

Danger!? Luka!

I would have already called you lockd town

last time that happened

it makes me feel guilty

you wree like

8:50 p.m.

outed scum

Ngekop

@Vee

Yo

you wouldnt copy it because youre very self aware of your meta

8:50 p.m.

also only wolf luka has wim

Danger?! Icet!

outed scum

I was?

town luka does not

Danger?! Icet!

town luka does not

no

8:50 p.m.

this is a lie

8:50 p.m.

the anon game

Danger!? Luka!

I was?

literally called you scum the entire game ne41

Danger!? Luka!

the anon game

anon game 0 paragraphs

8:51 p.m.

anon game had wim not enough wim

Danger?! Icet!

literally called you scum the entire game ne41

yeah sure but I dont remeember anything from the game aside from that

Danger?! Icet!

anon game 0 paragraphs

bt like therew as no thing to write paragraphs on

Danger!? Luka!

bt like therew as no thing to write paragraphs on

couldve replied to every single message and made a snarky comment

8:51 p.m.

I was active

8:51 p.m.

in this game

Danger?! Icet!

couldve replied to every single message and made a snarky comment

please stop reply pinging me, if you dont wanna ill just disable pings but

8:51 p.m.

I would kinda prefer not to

8:52 p.m.

since im hosting a game

Danger!? Luka!

Click to see attachment 🖼️

you brought a game i didnt read

Danger?! Icet!

you brought a game i didnt read

Literally skil issue

i didnt even read anon either

8:52 p.m.

I died D1

8:52 p.m.

anon sucked

8:52 p.m.

my acolyte was afk

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263317333770440/1148057291761917972 Reprephasing it Please dont unvote me simply cuz my head hurts, makes me feel guilty

Danger?! Icet!

anon sucked

I carried but

8:52 p.m.

good threw

8:52 p.m.

there wasnt much I could do

im unvoting for wagonomics

8:52 p.m.

i dont actually know how they work

oh oaky sure

but wagonomics

I just know sam once said that uh

8:53 p.m.

they dont do that

8:53 p.m.

they just do pairing

8:53 p.m.

so I dont do it either

8:53 p.m.

I knwo nothing else of it

why is sam self voting

8:53 p.m.

luka

8:53 p.m.

in a world where ur town

8:53 p.m.

uh

8:54 p.m.

its still my poe of vee thom lind sam wtf thats too easy

8:54 p.m.

theres actually a deepwolf its always an active wolf and a lowposter (false)

Danger?! Icet!

theres actually a deepwolf its always an active wolf and a lowposter (false)

looks at my post count hhhhhmmmmmmm

Vee

looks at my post count hhhhhmmmmmmm

u would be the lowposter

Sure whatever

8:55 p.m.

thats possible

Danger?! Icet!

u would be the lowposter

Yeah very clearly lol

If ice is town tho im genuinly dissapointed Im being kinda tunneled on / hard pushed on for.. being active and trying

8:56 p.m.

kinda sends the message to me in future games to just. not try

fuck

8:56 p.m.

luka might actually be town

wow really

8:56 p.m.

who coulda thought

i would never

Considering what I've read for you two just now feels TvTish

mafia destroys friendships

8:57 p.m.

ok actually

im just gonna. go

Danger?! Icet!

mafia destroys friendships

It also makes em

ill be back near eod

8:57 p.m.

and maybe a bit before

abi is a deepwolf theyve been pushing luka icet difference check the whole day

Danger!? Luka!

im just gonna. go

Bye have fun:D

I think caitlin also did but it also showns abi

8:58 p.m.

8:59 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147984547640778752 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147983482757316709 not really difference check more like caitlin agrees with me luka are scummy and sheeping abi

Idk what diff is referring to here someone explain it to my small brain please

Vee

Idk what diff is referring to here someone explain it to my small brain please

difference check

What does that refer to though

Vee

What does that refer to though

some people were saying theres a difference check between me and luka

Caitlin

What are the odds at least one of Luka/Icet is mafia

this was sent at a completely unrelated time note but i think its funny lol

Diff check = one of blank/blank??? Why not just say the second part it makes life easier

mb

Just confuses me good to know for the future at least

9:02 p.m.

Anyway feels TvT to me between you two

omg i feel like im on to something but idk if I am this is the latest vc btw https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263317333770440/1147983849486307410

9:03 p.m.

aghhhh

9:03 p.m.

theres a deepwolf in nge caitlin abi

9:03 p.m.

theres no way all 3 are town

9:04 p.m.

its like willed by god that theres 1 high poster and 1 low poster (lie) and theres no way if me and luka are t/t wolves dont empathis on it

9:04 p.m.

I guess vee no voting can be like

9:04 p.m.

"empathizing on it"

Danger?! Icet!

theres a deepwolf in nge caitlin abi

if we have TIs these are amazing checks btw

Danger?! Icet!

I guess vee no voting can be like

Or me just being inactive

fair

9:06 p.m.

Mafia cannot decide to no kill. I never realized that was a mechanic

But I do feel there's a deepwolf

self deprication

My read on vee is on a really weird spot

9:14 p.m.

In ma56 it was really easy to say they were a town lean for no reason and they were comfy in thread

Ice:

I am a Town Citizen. My partners are Ngekop Vee Thom Caitlin Sam Lind. The Mafia are Luka the Rolecop and Abi the Goon. Sam is the Tracker while Caitlin is the Doctor. There are no chats for me to join.

This is just so awful lol

Danger?! Icet!

still voting you since im not locked town

still voting you since im not locked town Dare you to vote me You won't.

Danger?! Icet!

I am a Town Citizen. My partners are Ngekop Vee Thom Caitlin Sam Lind. The Mafia are Luka the Rolecop and Abi the Goon. Sam is the Tracker while Caitlin is the Doctor. There are no chats for me to join.

So now abi’s mafia?

Danger!? Luka!

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263317333770440/1148057291761917972 Reprephasing it Please dont unvote me simply cuz my head hurts, makes me feel guilty

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263317333770440/1148057291761917972
Reprephasing it
Please dont unvote me simply cuz my head hurts, makes me feel guilty

•Luka Town no cap I'm done tinfoiling Luka don't @ me

Danger!? Luka!

kinda sends the message to me in future games to just. not try

Luka kinda sends the message to me in future games to just. not try Please do keep trying your killing it. Most of this thread town reads you. This shouldn't be a take away your obv towning and it's good.

Danger?! Icet!

abi is a deepwolf theyve been pushing luka icet difference check the whole day

Ice: abi is a deepwolf theyve been pushing luka icet difference check the whole day Your progression is so ass and you need new material vote me or keep my name out your mouth I'm sick of the town scum town scum gymnastics your doing on me

9:23 p.m.

Seriously Ice vote me put your money where your mouth is

9:23 p.m.

Thunderdome no cap me v Ice

9:23 p.m.

Let's go

I can't

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147967956349898833 Bro I swear to all that is holy let me play the game omg Every time you take something I say and give someone an answer you give them an out they wouldn't have had if you simply... didn't play white knight holy fuck I'm pushing the things I'm pushing for a reason screams And even if what you've said is true... which I will never know now since I can't trust that Linduana isn't just copying the out you've given... if you scum read BOTH people I've pushed it is a logical fallacy irregardless of pairing to also scum read me.

Soft bussing is a thing I feel like you’re justifying your actions and building town paranoia over trying to prove you’re not scum

☆Princess Abigail☆

How the fuck am I ever aligned with either of Thom or Ice?

I never said that ur aligned I said Thom is leaning null to me

lindauna

Soft bussing is a thing I feel like you’re justifying your actions and building town paranoia over trying to prove you’re not scum

Linduana:

Soft bussing is a thing I feel like you’re justifying your actions and building town paranoia over trying to prove you’re not scum

What?

Danger?! Icet!

I can't

Why not?

☆Princess Abigail☆

Luka kinda sends the message to me in future games to just. not try Please do keep trying your killing it. Most of this thread town reads you. This shouldn't be a take away your obv towning and it's good.

This genuinely makes me really happy, thank you <3

Vee

Yo

Bro seriously do something

Just because you pushed people like IceT it doesn’t give you an automatic clear also I haven’t gone through IceT yet

9:25 p.m.

The justification “I can’t be scum because I pushed your SR” is quite weak

Ngekop

Bro seriously do something

I cant just magically pull something out of thin air

im still reading through tho

Danger!? Luka!

This genuinely makes me really happy, thank you <3

Luka: This genuinely makes me really happy, thank you <3 Dead ass serious Luka Regardless of your alignment keep playing like this your killing it

☆Princess Abigail☆

Why not?

You're either obvious town or deep wolf and if feel so bad if you flipped town

9:25 p.m.

I'd*

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148065903402041485 You... literally put them as a scum read Where did you null read them lol

lindauna

The justification “I can’t be scum because I pushed your SR” is quite weak

Linduana: The justification “I can’t be scum because I pushed your SR” is quite weak It's... quite literally not. If you scum read someone who I'm hard pushing you agree with me. If your town than you know that my mindset is similar lol

I said i acknowledge that it could be a tunnel and I was taking a step back

9:27 p.m.

the whole goal of playing scum is to appear townie

9:27 p.m.

I don’t think your case is strong enough to be tred

Danger?! Icet!

You're either obvious town or deep wolf and if feel so bad if you flipped town

You're either obvious town or deep wolf and if feel so bad if you flipped town You literally won't stop trying to throw shit at me while refusing to vote me Ice you KNOW i'm town that's why you won't vote me You've called me scum 100 times but won't vote me? Put a vote on me now.

that is not a town line lol

Try me

Pressure sucks

Vote me

9:29 p.m.

Dead ass

9:30 p.m.

No town calls someone a wolf this often and this consistently without voting them You don't believe I'm a wolf because you know my alignment. I scare you Ice. You want me out the game without getting your hands dirty.

9:30 p.m.

It's working

True I'm scared

im sorry I don’t tr abigail for this

You probably should

9:30 p.m.

But it's okay

the amount of aggression vs substance in their posts is concerning

Oh fucking pls

there’s not enough substance in these pushes

I've done more than anyone in this game not named Nge or Luka

you assume a lot of things that you can’t back up when prodded

Let's not play the Abbi posts too much but says nothing is all fluff game I got tired of that 100 games ago on MU

Pushing IceT and Thom doesn’t make u town I acknowledged Thom is a newer player and their difficulty making reads could just be them not having any so I read that as null

I've backed up every mother fucking word I've said lol

You’re pushing very very hard with little substantiation on your reads

Abi

9:32 p.m.

Ily but

If anything I’m more convinced to vote you here

You're starting to lean on the ate part

Bull fucking shit

They are

9:32 p.m.

lol

My reads all have depth and I've stated it

alright can u link the msg

You remind me of Simon

Actually read my fucking iso and try to like understand it instead of tunnel

I did

9:33 p.m.

I don’t like your iso

Not very well clearly lol

more so than Thom

9:33 p.m.

or Luka

9:34 p.m.

I need to read through IceT in more depth as well

Abi and luka are town

@Danger!? Luka! hammer me put your money where you're mouth is

He won't

i have no self esteem

You're the one he isn't hammering

Look in Ice and Lind when I flip

this is game relevant

☆Princess Abigail☆

@Danger!? Luka! hammer me put your money where you're mouth is

Nah

9:34 p.m.

Not hammering a tow ur

Do it

Abi please unself vote ty

Tonwie*

Vee

Considering what I've read for you two just now feels TvTish

Fk

Kill me right fucking now

Please no I don't encourage suicide

Ngekop

Fk

☆Princess Abigail☆

Do it

This is for your sake If you sr me over this idgaf but you’re the only player I’m not hammering Id hammer myself over you

I dare anyone in this game to vote me right now and hammer me

is this rlly town

I still think Vee is town despite the silent vote on me

it’s such a throw to ask for hammer whether you’re town or scum

@☆Princess Abigail☆ hi 1. please dun self vote its anti town for your alignment esp if youre publicly asking to die 2. please be mindful if other players its rlly hard on the receiving end of your tunnel 3. please compromise thx

Luka bb ily but I'm gonna get tunneled for eternity

I just took an excedrin so we’ll see if that helps. I’ll get back to this if it helps, abbi restored my motivation

I can see scum doing this to ask for hammer and appear town idk why town ever asks for hammer

Just kill me and remove the distraction

9:36 p.m.

I beg you

☆Princess Abigail☆

Luka bb ily but I'm gonna get tunneled for eternity

You’re town. I’m not hammering town. I’m sorry

Pls

Danger?! Icet!

theres a deepwolf in nge caitlin abi

Cait i think atm

9:37 p.m.

Which

9:37 p.m.

Sucks

this is

Lol

lindauna

it’s such a throw to ask for hammer whether you’re town or scum

Yes it literally is

a really uncomfortable thread state

Why would scum ask for hammer

It's not Cait

to appear town

Cait is fucking town

Danger?! Icet!

if we have TIs these are amazing checks btw

Shut

☆Princess Abigail☆

I still think Vee is town despite the silent vote on me

I was expecting this to be mentioned much sooner the vote is due to the aggressiveness I havent seen town go off like you have currently if you are town I'll take my L but currently doesnt feel that way

lindauna

to appear town

So??? It doesn’t matter if they die And scum wouldn’t reinforce it like this

Abigail and Cait seem quite aligned

Danger?! Icet!

Mafia cannot decide to no kill. I never realized that was a mechanic

It’s just this game

Ngekop

Shut

whats a out of game TI

9:37 p.m.

Invest

I’ve won a game by asking for hammer to progress town from misvoting (as scum)

Vee

But I do feel there's a deepwolf

What makes you feel this btw

im invesing you tonight

no one voted me

Danger?! Icet!

@☆Princess Abigail☆ hi 1. please dun self vote its anti town for your alignment esp if youre publicly asking to die 2. please be mindful if other players its rlly hard on the receiving end of your tunnel 3. please compromise thx

shrugs I'm not gonna get tunneled for 3 days just cause people can't read

9:38 p.m.

Kill me now

9:38 p.m.

I'm useless to town

it’s day 1

My death is beneficial

☆Princess Abigail☆

shrugs I'm not gonna get tunneled for 3 days just cause people can't read

you should still try

lindauna

I’ve won a game by asking for hammer to progress town from misvoting (as scum)

Neat but abbi is good If you don’t think so vote it, simple as that

like

Ngekop

What makes you feel this btw

From what I'm seeing with the Nulls/SLs/SRs it feels much more like there TvTs over Scum Partners

Danger!? Luka!

I just took an excedrin so we’ll see if that helps. I’ll get back to this if it helps, abbi restored my motivation

I LOVE YOU

ABI rn is obvs towning themselves

9:39 p.m.

its twtbw

☆Princess Abigail☆

I LOVE YOU

if you think its wofthy

9:39 p.m.

and its super towny

Danger?! Icet!

its twtbw

What’s termology

Danger!? Luka!

What’s termology

to wolf to be wolf

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148069316688887848 People really need to learn how I play lol

Word x5

lindauna

Abigail and Cait seem quite aligned

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148069324767117382 This is the worst take I've seen all game

Vee

I cant just magically pull something out of thin air

The thread isnt think air

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148069316688887848 People really need to learn how I play lol

I havent played with you yet but I'll learn it with time

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148069316688887848 People really need to learn how I play lol

my friend plays the exact same as u and im kinda used to it but others rlly dont like them

9:40 p.m.

its

9:40 p.m.

idk how to say it

9:40 p.m.

being tunneled sucks

Vee

From what I'm seeing with the Nulls/SLs/SRs it feels much more like there TvTs over Scum Partners

possibly

Danger?! Icet!

my friend plays the exact same as u and im kinda used to it but others rlly dont like them

hes really good at mafia tho

9:41 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148069525732987022 I am trying This is how I feel. My death outs scum. It's in you and Lind town can figure it out.

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148069324767117382 This is the worst take I've seen all game

I mean if Cait is town I’d believe that you’re town

☆Princess Abigail☆

No town calls someone a wolf this often and this consistently without voting them You don't believe I'm a wolf because you know my alignment. I scare you Ice. You want me out the game without getting your hands dirty.

He actually does

9:41 p.m.

But ok

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148069525732987022 I am trying This is how I feel. My death outs scum. It's in you and Lind town can figure it out.

then kill ind with me today

no one’s parked on u

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148069810354278490 TWTBAW doesn't exist btw

and no one’s hammering u

Danger?! Icet!

hes really good at mafia tho

If they’re from anarchic this is probs false

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148069810354278490 TWTBAW doesn't exist btw

wagonomics doesnt exist

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148069974364131520 I like you Vee ❤️

Danger!? Luka!

If they’re from anarchic this is probs false

simon and fulm

9:42 p.m.

were u there for them

Danger?! Icet!

simon and fulm

Oh yeah Simon is good

9:42 p.m.

Wasn’t there for fulm

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148069974364131520 I like you Vee ❤️

I try and be friendly and honest but I'm also dumb so it doesnt always work

they had an entire solve D1 and on one listened and they rage uquitted

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148070078223495278 I'm not trying to tunnel on you fuck Ice I called you town at one point so how's that a tunnel? I just can't wrap my head around how anything you've done around my slot or Luka is towny at all and the person who knows you best in this game agrees

Danger?! Icet!

they had an entire solve D1 and on one listened and they rage uquitted

Are they mean like. Certain people I don’t need to name you know who I don’t like TwT

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148070078223495278 I'm not trying to tunnel on you fuck Ice I called you town at one point so how's that a tunnel? I just can't wrap my head around how anything you've done around my slot or Luka is towny at all and the person who knows you best in this game agrees

its the swear words

Danger!? Luka!

Are they mean like. Certain people I don’t need to name you know who I don’t like TwT

name it in DMs

9:43 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148070166199025664 I'm really bad at mafia ^^

Danger?! Icet!

name it in DMs

Guess in DMs

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148070166199025664 I'm really bad at mafia ^^

Lie

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148070234348068864 That's probably not like the right way to think. Me and Cait would 1000% try to pocket each other

9:44 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148070268804276305 I don't believe you

9:44 p.m.

The progression on me sucks

9:44 p.m.

It just

9:44 p.m.

Fucking

9:44 p.m.

Sucks

why does it suck

☆Princess Abigail☆

I still think Vee is town despite the silent vote on me

@Vee why tf

9:45 p.m.

Are you voting abi

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148070436450603019 Well...EoD wagonomics does but midday wagonomics I 100% agree

abi

9:45 p.m.

heres the thing

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148070565341564939 Me too Vee me too. Your one of the real ones.

☆Princess Abigail☆

Cait is fucking town

Doubt

9:46 p.m.

Atp

Ngekop

@Vee why tf

Unvoted though it originally was due to there aggressiveness I'm not used to town playing like that it feels scummy to me so I voted

half the lobby here doesnt know your playstyle you dont know my playstyle you are judging others for judging your playstyle and judging others for their playstyle

Danger?! Icet!

its the swear words

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148070780022825030 I swear a lot is just my upbringing I don't really mean anything by it I'm not even like angry or anything I just...fuck is like as common for me as like the word the lol

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148070565341564939 Me too Vee me too. Your one of the real ones.

I'm either being pocketed or not either way I like this person

Caitlin

I think if I made a ranking of most townie things and most scummy things, Ngekop would be near the top on both rankings

This is so true btw

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148070780022825030 I swear a lot is just my upbringing I don't really mean anything by it I'm not even like angry or anything I just...fuck is like as common for me as like the word the lol

they scare me

Danger!? Luka!

Lie

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148070907810676746 Luka bb I literally hard defended both wolfs day 1 last game lol

lindauna

why does it suck

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148071210970787850 I really really don't know how many times I can say the same thing over and over again

9:48 p.m.

They

9:48 p.m.

Literally

9:48 p.m.

Scum

9:48 p.m.

Read

9:48 p.m.

Me

9:48 p.m.

But

9:48 p.m.

Won't

9:48 p.m.

Vote

9:48 p.m.

Me

9:48 p.m.

That's

I agree

Not

9:48 p.m.

Towny

They’re voting me

9:48 p.m.

LOL

9:49 p.m.

I have no idea where their scumread on me came from I’d like to hear the explanation

9:49 p.m.

This could be tvt

Ngekop

Doubt

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148071468631072851 How do you doubt you agreed with my town read earlier and she's done nothing since

Doesn’t seem like the excedrine is kicking in, sorry. I don’t think I can do this

9:50 p.m.

I’m going to try to go to sleep.

9:50 p.m.

Good night

Gn luka

Danger?! Icet!

half the lobby here doesnt know your playstyle you dont know my playstyle you are judging others for judging your playstyle and judging others for their playstyle

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148071633148465154 I'm actually getting voted for... being aggressive Your getting voted for something in the game not your play style

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148071633148465154 I'm actually getting voted for... being aggressive Your getting voted for something in the game not your play style

the third point is invalid bc i dont know what luka is going on with my playstyle

9:51 p.m.

town read Luka is town theyve been really genuine towny and frustrated Abi is town theyre begging for death rn and they fully believe in their reads very genuine town lean Ngekop funny ok gn

Im starting to agree with abi being town

9:51 p.m.

and nge

Vee

I'm either being pocketed or not either way I like this person

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148071708595601510 Can't get pocketed by town ❤️ But I'm just being real that's just how I feel not really thinking about how it looks in game

and cait

Danger?! Icet!

they scare me

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148071750278590464 I can try to stop but like... it's hard for me to not do especially when I'm upset

its fineeee

Vee

From what I'm seeing with the Nulls/SLs/SRs it feels much more like there TvTs over Scum Partners

Why not TvS

Danger!? Luka!

Doesn’t seem like the excedrine is kicking in, sorry. I don’t think I can do this

I love you Luka solve the game with me tomorrow? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148072419257499689

Ngekop

Why not TvS

Doesnt feel TvS it could be TvS but it feels more TvT

Good night be back in like 1.5 hrs

Gn

Assuming I wake up it's my day off I might not

Vee

Unvoted though it originally was due to there aggressiveness I'm not used to town playing like that it feels scummy to me so I voted

I have played way more aggressive and you have tr’d me every single time

Ngekop

I have played way more aggressive and you have tr’d me every single time

Most the times tho you apply a lot of different information in said aggressiveness or your scum it's more so grown to be expected from you from my POV but your really the only person I regularly see be aggressive as town compared to scum

☆Princess Abigail☆

Towny

He’s scared of you and has the feeling you are deepwolf but since that is a FEELING so he cant even be convinced himself

I don't buy that for a second Nge

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148071468631072851 How do you doubt you agreed with my town read earlier and she's done nothing since

Yeah but atp idk many people are towntelling

You don't call someone scum this consistently and refuse to trust it even once

9:59 p.m.

Literally will call me scum every other hour but doesn't want to throw a vote down on me

9:59 p.m.

It makes no sense

Luka and abi are town Cait and nge only has 1 wolf max and if they're town solves the game late game Sam Thom vee and lind contain 1-2 wolves We always vote in Sam Thom vee lind Checking ngekop Cait is stupid idk why I said that before you always check in Sam Thom vee lind Cait and nge will resolve themselves late game if they're town / wolf + PRs I think this game is auto lol

10:07 p.m.

Abi's read on me is ok if they're like Keaton who solves the game after my exe

10:07 p.m.

Good luck town

10:07 p.m.

luka abi vee it seems

10:35 p.m.

what happened icet

10:35 p.m.

where is the town

☆Princess Abigail☆

I dare anyone in this game to vote me right now and hammer me

I would do this

Dont vote thom

Tommy2Hands

luka abi vee it seems

No way vee is teamed with abi

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148071708595601510 Can't get pocketed by town ❤️ But I'm just being real that's just how I feel not really thinking about how it looks in game

Yes you can but ok

Vee

Doesnt feel TvS it could be TvS but it feels more TvT

Why

☆Princess Abigail☆

I don't buy that for a second Nge

I know it bc that’s literally what happened in ma56 when i was maf and icet was constantly going back and forth on me yet never voting me

☆Princess Abigail☆

You don't call someone scum this consistently and refuse to trust it even once

He currently tr’s you zzz

11:27 p.m.

This

11:27 p.m.

Vc

11:27 p.m.

Sucks

11:27 p.m.

Not thom

11:27 p.m.

And not 5 diff wagons

11:27 p.m.

6*

Ngekop

Yes you can but ok

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148095968831619183 It's not a pocket if I'm town lol

Ngekop

He currently tr’s you zzz

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148096776453238917 You realize this is part of the problem right?

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148095968831619183 It's not a pocket if I'm town lol

I have pocketed people as town

Ngekop

Why

Just feels that way no specific reasoning

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148096776453238917 You realize this is part of the problem right?

Yeah but icet has done that multiple times

11:32 p.m.

@Vee reads

11:32 p.m.

Go

11:32 p.m.

Include sl/sr’s

Ngekop

I have pocketed people as town

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148098134740836422 It's not a pocket if your town

It can still be

I'm really sick of being told a wolfy thing is not wolfy because they've done it before lol

If you do it in a manipulative way disingenuously

☆Princess Abigail☆

I'm really sick of being told a wolfy thing is not wolfy because they've done it before lol

Well

Ngekop

@Vee reads

I havent read back nor have I talked to with many people so I dont have many opinions currently

You were saying that about cait last game

11:33 p.m.

With how she was reacting to the sr’s on her

11:33 p.m.

N stuff

11:33 p.m.

Saying that’s how she does it as town

11:33 p.m.

Which is true

11:33 p.m.

And was a fair point

11:34 p.m.

But it’s literally someone doing smth objectively scummy being moved to NAI due to meta

Vee

I havent read back nor have I talked to with many people so I dont have many opinions currently

Well i know you as town and even if you havent read everything

11:38 p.m.

You get reads

11:38 p.m.

Even if not strong or with substance behind

Fair that also normally takes time of me being active with others which thankfully I have plenty of time tonight

Well try catching up and give some

11:39 p.m.

Bc it’s hard to find scummy people in here

11:40 p.m.

I think abi is town, i think icet is town, i think thom is town

11:40 p.m.

Cait/sam/luka/lind/vee

11:40 p.m.

The person i tl the most in these 5 is luka

11:40 p.m.

So cait/sam/lind/vee

Current reads to sum up opinions later and please you a little TL - Abi, Nge, Luka, Icet Everyone else is Null as i havent talked to them a lot i have with Lind a little but nothing exciting to make me feel strongly about them I feel theres likely a deep wolf and the general idea is If theres a deep wolf its nge/Cait which time will tell

I am fearing cait yep

Cait is town

11:48 p.m.

Absolutely tragic vote

Well i mean

11:49 p.m.

Only people i could vote are the 4 i mentioned

11:50 p.m.

And of those 4

11:50 p.m.

Lindauna would be my least preferred vote

11:50 p.m.

And you dont want vee

11:50 p.m.

And sam would be lowkey unfair to lynch today

☆Princess Abigail☆

Absolutely tragic vote

She said you werent townlock bc you didnt do either of your two towntells

11:51 p.m.

Then suddenly

11:51 p.m.

You’re top town for her

I also did both town tells after she said it xD

☆Princess Abigail☆

I also did both town tells after she said it xD

But not before she put you top town

Ngekop

No way vee is teamed with abi

not sure what happened but ill take your word for it. Why is IceT so locked on Luka and Abby

It was before she put me as top town nge lol

Caitlin

You haven't done either of your 2 main town tells yet

.

Caitlin

TR- Ngekop/Abigail TL- Sam Null- Vee/Thom SL- Lindauna SR- Luka/IceT I'm kinda at smth like this rn Thom is bumped up to null because I think it may just be a playstyle crash Lindauna I'm unsure on, I feel like they say kinda little with regards to their reads and stuff. Like they do the bare minimum so we can't accuse them for being frozen but yet.. I do think they kinda are frozen

.

what is so towny about looka

Between these two

12:03 a.m.

Where did you do either of your main town tells

☆Princess Abigail☆

It was before she put me as top town nge lol

Quote pls

only read i dont like from caitlin is her Lindauana every other one i can understand

Tommy2Hands

not sure what happened but ill take your word for it. Why is IceT so locked on Luka and Abby

Iirc

12:04 a.m.

Vee put abi at L-1

12:04 a.m.

When popping in

I did the 2nd one right before she said what it was

12:05 a.m.

Nge your reason for voting Cait is based on a misunderstanding

i see i see

Ngekop

Vee put abi at L-1

I made it 3 abi SVed to make it 4 I'm not tryna hammer D1

Caitlin

2) Being very sacrifice'y, this is kinda like 1, but also like 'if I'm sussed then maybe I should be voted out'

This doesnt count

12:06 a.m.

It wasnt “if im sussed then maybe i should be voted out”

12:06 a.m.

That did happen but AFTER she put you as TR

12:06 a.m.

On top

12:06 a.m.

The only thing that happened in between

12:06 a.m.

Was you selfing putting yourself at L-2

12:07 a.m.

Spamming “test luka”

12:07 a.m.

Not bc you were being sr’d

12:07 a.m.

But bc of the test luka thing

12:07 a.m.

That doesnt count to what cait meant

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147982123689586780 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147982213850353714 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147982246955978752 @Ngekop

If any it is more like what happened in co11

12:07 a.m.

D1

12:07 a.m.

I know abi

12:08 a.m.

Still

That was not after she put me on top lol

That wasnt sacrificing yourself bc if you were sussed maybe better vote you out

Nobody wanting to hammer D1

☆Princess Abigail☆

That was not after she put me on top lol

It wasnt but it also isnt the towntell she mentioned

So boring

Abi

12:08 a.m.

L-2 to “test luka”

12:08 a.m.

Doesnt count as what cait mentioned

12:08 a.m.

And you know it

It does lol

It literally doesnt

12:09 a.m.

What happened after with icet and vee and lind

12:09 a.m.

Does

I was sacrificing myself to find out if Luka was lying

What happened eod1 in co11

That's

Does

12:09 a.m.

That doesnt

Literally

☆Princess Abigail☆

I was sacrificing myself to find out if Luka was lying

Yeah that’s not it

Self sacrifice holy shit

Not bc you are sussed

...

12:09 a.m.

Jfc

Or bc it’d solve anything

12:09 a.m.

Whether luka hammers or not

12:09 a.m.

Doesnt confirm anything

12:09 a.m.

It literally doesnt count

If I'm in a position to be self sacrificed I'm being sussed

12:09 a.m.

Pls dear Jesus

But the reason you were selfing back then

I stg this game is gonna give me an aneurysm

Had nothing to do with that

...

No way cait positioned you

12:10 a.m.

As top tr

12:10 a.m.

Bc of that

What the fuck ever

I refuse to believe that

Holy shit

12:10 a.m.

I'm so sick of this

If she did bc of smth else you did in there that she considered towny

12:10 a.m.

Cool

woah

I will cop Cait tonight

But no way it was selfing and spamming to test luka

GGs

What

You arent cop

im feeling like abby is scum who just plays like this to be honest

You wouldnt be that willing to be hammered d1

12:11 a.m.

If you were cop

12:11 a.m.

0 way

12:11 a.m.

You were at L-1

12:11 a.m.

You are cit

Oh how little you know about me my dear nge

12:11 a.m.

Oh how little you know

12:11 a.m.

I was gonna cop Vee

☆Princess Abigail☆

Oh how little you know about me my dear nge

You wouldnt do that especially when you tr cait and she did nothing to push you

But y'all gonna tell me I'm wrong on Cait again I'll just cop her

12:12 a.m.

Cool

12:12 a.m.

Now let's kill someone else

If you’re cop

Who's actually

12:12 a.m.

You know

Either C1

Scummy

And you die

12:12 a.m.

Tn

12:12 a.m.

Or A1

12:12 a.m.

And you get rb’d

abigail is scummy

12:12 a.m.

cop her

Or I just die

12:12 a.m.

Which at this point I'd be okay with

If we’re in Bsomething

Tommy2Hands

cop her

Kinda hard to cop the cop

I’ll look like PR

12:13 a.m.

Huge

I mean

12:13 a.m.

I'll cop myself

12:13 a.m.

Oh my god

12:13 a.m.

Look at that I got the results

12:13 a.m.

I'm cop

Abi

Weird champ

If i had to guess i’d say atp cait maf

Ngekop

Abi

Yes? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148108572442509447

As hard as it is to lynch her d1

12:14 a.m.

Idc

She's not and I'll cop her so kill someone else

Ok abi

12:14 a.m.

Im cop

Nothing about her play has been wolfy

So you arent

Mhmmm

12:14 a.m.

Cover denied

i dont trust the police

☆Princess Abigail☆

Nothing about her play has been wolfy

Her progression on you

Now kill someone who's actually a fucking wolf

Is not as genuine

12:15 a.m.

As one would say

...

12:15 a.m.

Fucking hell

☆Princess Abigail☆

Cover denied

Not a cover

Why are you getting this annoyed

12:15 a.m.

Over that

Why wouldn't I

12:16 a.m.

All you've done this game is railroad me at every turn

12:16 a.m.

It's annoying

12:16 a.m.

And makes me want to quit playing

This time im not attacking your read

12:16 a.m.

Im going with mine

12:16 a.m.

And you are going against it

And this is the first time I've actually been fully able to play a game in this server

And im saying i stand on mine still

☆Princess Abigail☆

And makes me want to quit playing

Im not even attacking you or your read this time??

12:17 a.m.

Or preventing you from engaging

12:17 a.m.

Im just

12:17 a.m.

Having my read/vote

I feel like this is svt

And not changing it only bc of what you said

lindauna

I feel like this is svt

Doubt it

...

12:17 a.m.

Just fucking kill me

12:17 a.m.

I'm so done lol

No way abi and cait are partners and no way abi gets more annoyed over cait going in here

12:18 a.m.

As maf

☆Princess Abigail☆

Just fucking kill me

No

12:18 a.m.

Omfg

Omfg yes

God im so dying tn

Lol

Well if i die it’s bc of my reads

12:18 a.m.

I hc citizen

12:19 a.m.

‍♂️

12:19 a.m.

So pr hunting isnt

12:19 a.m.

An explanation

12:19 a.m.

I hchchchchchc literally if i claim any pr and get cc’d lynch me no cap

12:19 a.m.

Im saying it now

12:19 a.m.

No wifom

^ scum theater

If someone claims a red check on me

Yeah I'm cop cool cool which furthers my real roading claim

Someone else will be the cc

12:20 a.m.

Not me

Rail roading*

12:20 a.m.

And also

Yeah no you are not

12:20 a.m.

Im not going with it

Pissed me off

Idc

Tommy2Hands

^ scum theater

Shut up

12:20 a.m.

Bro

I hard claim never rescind holy fuck

12:20 a.m.

I'm cop

12:20 a.m.

Kill me

‍♂️

Godddddd

☆Princess Abigail☆

I hard claim never rescind holy fuck

If i die

I hate this game

sorry i had to

I want the legacy to be stronger

why do you hate this game abi

12:21 a.m.

all your friends are here

She isnt cop

I don’t get the defeatism

she isnt town either

regardless of ur alignment it’s a throw

u talking about me?

no abi

lindauna

regardless of ur alignment it’s a throw

The frustration is genuine and probs NAI

yea

12:21 a.m.

i agree

She is

12:22 a.m.

Still

12:22 a.m.

Town tho

why would they claim cop if they aren't cop tho

I'm cop hard claim never rescind get good at this game GGs cool chill cool

i see

Tommy2Hands

why would they claim cop if they aren't cop tho

To save cait

Baitlin

12:22 a.m.

why are they dying

☆Princess Abigail☆

I'm cop hard claim never rescind get good at this game GGs cool chill cool

Ok your power still useless

12:22 a.m.

So still

12:22 a.m.

Not a reason why

Killing Cait is an absolute throw

To back off someone

not sure i can take this unserious gaming

And I will literally just stop playing when she flips town

Tommy2Hands

not sure i can take this unserious gaming

You are the one who said

12:23 a.m.

Scum theatre

12:23 a.m.

Lmao

that was a good play

12:23 a.m.

nobody will ever get me and thats okay

It wasnt serious

12:23 a.m.

And if it was then just

12:23 a.m.

Idek

twas a serious play but an unserious message

Stop reading, take names out of a hat and you’ll have better accuracy

you dont get it

Im gonna read this when I feel like it

i will explain some other time

Tommy2Hands

twas a serious play but an unserious message

I know

you know

12:24 a.m.

do you now?

I know that

12:24 a.m.

Idk what exactly were you

Trying to achieve with that

12:24 a.m.

But i know the message wasnt serious

12:24 a.m.

And i know it had a purpose

12:25 a.m.

Ugh

12:25 a.m.

Abi

12:25 a.m.

Us 2 is like

BTW my defeatist attitude isn't gonna stop when everyone is a wagon there's no town cohesion and nobody wants to work together

The worst town core

12:25 a.m.

Ever

☆Princess Abigail☆

BTW my defeatist attitude isn't gonna stop when everyone is a wagon there's no town cohesion and nobody wants to work together

Sigh

Why lol

☆Princess Abigail☆

Why lol

Bc we are just tr’ing each other

12:26 a.m.

And that’s it

12:26 a.m.

Bc we cant agree

12:26 a.m.

On one single thing

12:26 a.m.

ONE

12:26 a.m.

Like

12:27 a.m.

Im p sure

Well I'm avoiding... who'd I say I'd avoid Thom or ice I voted both but I actually meant to keep that promise lol

Abi isnt cop

12:27 a.m.

But whoever is cop

12:27 a.m.

Or tracker

Your wrong

Well not tracker

I am cop

Cop

what

Should check cait

☆Princess Abigail☆

I am cop

You have my role

so abi is saying they arent voting me? or avoid copping?

We’re the same role

12:27 a.m.

Literally

wuhat

12:28 a.m.

fro is cop?

No

12:28 a.m.

Im cit

well well well

She is cig

12:28 a.m.

Cit

I am Citizen too

Bro you really need to stop lol

Tommy2Hands

I am Citizen too

Doubt

why

Wait

I think you’re pr

i was just about to go off abi if they said they're going off me

But you wont die tn

12:28 a.m.

Dw

screams

I never die n1

Bro

Exactly

Brother

So i can say that out loud idc

I'm gonna jump out a window

what

Defenstrate myself

relax

Lmaoooo

whats going on

12:29 a.m.

i cant even keep up

Thom is still town

12:29 a.m.

Mafia wont kill him

Cool I promised not to kill Thom today for you

eventually i will be fear killed

So

okay

12:30 a.m.

i will recend my vote on abigail

Ty

unless

This game is hard

Wolfs are still in Ice Linduana Sam

Fro is scum double pocketing

Like actually hard

we'll just have to give you

12:30 a.m.

that if you do it

12:30 a.m.

how is it hard

☆Princess Abigail☆

Wolfs are still in Ice Linduana Sam

Yeah idts

This vote count is awful

Linda/sam/cait/vee for me

yea the vote count is awful

☆Princess Abigail☆

This vote count is awful

Yeah wow

i will give you that

I said this

12:31 a.m.

Like

You

An hour ago

Literally

i think we need to build a wagon on

Agree

12:31 a.m.

With

12:31 a.m.

2/3rds my poe

Yep

12:31 a.m.

But

And than tell me you don't think so

Literally

Holy fuck kill me

Lind > sam > cait/vee

12:31 a.m.

For me

12:31 a.m.

Cait/vee most likely to have a scum at least

12:32 a.m.

So

12:32 a.m.

It’s enough to say

12:32 a.m.

Idts

vee luka ice

To your poe

is my poe

Amazing

Cool

Icet/vee/sam/lind

12:32 a.m.

Are the ones

vee why isnt he voting

In 2/3 of our poe’s

lind i can understand from how i think she is

He unvoted me when I obv towned

okay

By trying to suicide the cop d1

12:33 a.m.

Cause

what about luka guys

I'm reckless bb

12:33 a.m.

Luka is town

Tommy2Hands

what about luka guys

I think the frustration was genuine

12:33 a.m.

And the annoyance at icet

I refuse to touch luka

As well

Until FX

Abi

what about ICET

And than probably still won't touch Luka

12:33 a.m.

I'd kill ice

FX?

Tommy2Hands

what about ICET

I still think he is town

12:34 a.m.

Him claiming not pr

Ngekop

Abi

What now?

he did that i forgot

Him being swingy af

that was scummy

☆Princess Abigail☆

What now?

Chill???

12:34 a.m.

You can veto

12:34 a.m.

One vote

12:34 a.m.

Cait/vee

what does fx mean btw

Tommy2Hands

FX?

Final X Lylo if you wanna call it that but

Pick which

ok

Tommy2Hands

what does fx mean btw

Mylo/lylo

what

12:34 a.m.

not what to that

Ngekop

Cait/vee

...

Ngekop

Pick which

The one you say in cait/vee

i mean what why not voting luka till LYLO

Let me think

I wont touch again for the rest of the day

i never like these odd stipulations people say

Sup bitches

what

Tommy2Hands

i mean what why not voting luka till LYLO

Tr

12:35 a.m.

For her

mel is in this game

Am now

And he did towntell lowkey

its over

Mel get out

Bro

12:35 a.m.

I literally repped in

Mel is Sam

oh

Mel

Sup bitches

You didnt have perms yet, perms abuse

OHHHH

12:35 a.m.

KROSBSOFJSBSOSKABF

Jal

You didnt have perms yet, perms abuse

F

Half the players in this game are in MA

I town read Vee more than Cait

what is mel gonna do about sam

12:36 a.m.

's claim

But I'm gonna veto my girlfriend day 1

12:36 a.m.

Cool

Oh pog I'm voting myself, that's staying

☆Princess Abigail☆

I town read Vee more than Cait

..

☆Princess Abigail☆

But I'm gonna veto my girlfriend day 1

..

12:36 a.m.

Whatever

Deal with it

Vee/icet/lind/mel

I'm busy rn but will do a mighty catch up relatively soon

They are both town anyways

thinking we vote mel here

I seriously doubt it

Mel

I'm busy rn but will do a mighty catch up relatively soon

Just iso me I'm the center of everything this game

Tommy2Hands

thinking we vote mel here

Yeah

12:37 a.m.

Probs

12:37 a.m.

Atp

Life

is tough

Like*

12:37 a.m.

Actually

☆Princess Abigail☆

Just iso me I'm the center of everything this game

Absolutely not

Lol

iso me for some good laughs

Your gonna have to read my content anyways

12:37 a.m.

Tommy2Hands

iso me for some good laughs

aka ignore you completely. Gotcha

I'm cop

Iso me for whatever reason

GGs

☆Princess Abigail☆

I'm cop

Bruh

She isnt

Bruh

Im tracker

12:38 a.m.

So she cant be cop

What if I cc'd you just now

12:38 a.m.

Smh

Do it

you have to cc if you're cop

No balls I hard claim

I hard claim being Australian

Australia is not real

holy gross

☆Princess Abigail☆

Australia is not real

I'm a figment of your collective imaginations

Checks out

im trying to ride a kangaroo

Ok, anyway

Aaaaaaaa cait might be town

12:39 a.m.

Fmllllll

So anyways

Vee still

12:39 a.m.

Mafia

12:39 a.m.

Tho

i think cait is town

Ngekop

Aaaaaaaa cait might be town

No fucking shit

12:40 a.m.

Why?

☆Princess Abigail☆

No fucking shit

She isnt even close to

Ngekop

Mafia

Pewpew

The towniest

Whyyyy

People

Why?

In here

12:40 a.m.

Top2 you gotta

12:40 a.m.

Accept that

12:40 a.m.

You cant go like that to me

Why did you just make me cry for an hour to flip your read

12:40 a.m.

I didn't actually cry

12:40 a.m.

I am frustrated as hell though

☆Princess Abigail☆

Why?

Bc he is lurking and still has no leans other than weakly tr’ing the people that he saw

12:40 a.m.

Just like that

No

☆Princess Abigail☆

Why did you just make me cry for an hour to flip your read

Bc my head

I don't care about Vee

Is just

12:41 a.m.

As crazy

12:41 a.m.

Bc i dont

I mean I do

Sr

12:41 a.m.

Anyone

But

And i have read

12:41 a.m.

Everything

☆Princess Abigail☆

I don't care about Vee

Aaww:(

I do care about him

is linduana that scummmy ?

I'm trying to figure out why I just fought you for an hour and outed my PR for you to AGREE WITH ME AN HOUR LATER

More than half this tavle fa

they seemed fine to me

Fs*

Tommy2Hands

is linduana that scummmy ?

No

12:41 a.m.

But who is

12:41 a.m.

Ndodjdosjhw

mel, vee, icet

☆Princess Abigail☆

I'm trying to figure out why I just fought you for an hour and outed my PR for you to AGREE WITH ME AN HOUR LATER

You arent cop

That's a concerning sight to come into a game with

Vee

Aaww:(

I love you Vee I just meant that's not what I'm trying to figure out now

12:42 a.m.

Your still a real one ❤️

Tommy2Hands

mel, vee, icet

Bro got a hard-on for me already

no dude

Ok nvm mel might be scum

Ngekop

You arent cop

I'm really gonna need you to just stop pls

12:42 a.m.

It's too late to give cover

Ngekop

Ok nvm mel might be scum

You already said that babe

☆Princess Abigail☆

Your still a real one ❤️

Yay!:D

☆Princess Abigail☆

I'm really gonna need you to just stop pls

Im not covering

Ily Vee ❤️ UwU

Im not even pr but i know you arent pr

Your wrong

i am PR

Can we not talk PRs

☆Princess Abigail☆

Ily Vee ❤️ UwU

OwO

Ngekop

Im not even pr but i know you arent pr

Shut up pls I mean this in the nicest way possible

Mel

Can we not talk PRs

Im trying to hide shhhh

☆Princess Abigail☆

Shut up pls I mean this in the nicest way possible

Then you do as well

12:43 a.m.

Idc if you’re cit i dont want you to die

12:43 a.m.

Over smth like this

Why

Bc you are

why you care so much nge

The only person

When at this point one of us probably needs to

Im confident 100000%

12:44 a.m.

Is town

you'll be more confident on other people tomorrow

12:44 a.m.

not a big deal

One of us needs to die Nge

☆Princess Abigail☆

When at this point one of us probably needs to

Not if they pr hunt

We are both town

Or try to dodge doc

And we will not agree ever

12:44 a.m.

We are a problem for town

i agree

No

12:44 a.m.

Lol

At this point my death

its confusing

Is beneficial

If we go to F3

12:45 a.m.

Both of us alive

the 2 biggest posters constantly fighting

We win

i think abi is right

Which is why I'm very willing to just suicide my pr

12:45 a.m.

So you can solve the game

12:45 a.m.

Don't say I'm not a pr

‍♂️

We

12:46 a.m.

Will

Btw abi

Lose this game

I may not agree with you

12:46 a.m.

Like

12:46 a.m.

At all

12:46 a.m.

But still

12:46 a.m.

You’re fr

12:46 a.m.

Great to play with

Thank you

So that also

Actually needed to hear that

Is a reason why i dont want you gone

I enjoy playing with you too

12:46 a.m.

We do agree on some things

12:46 a.m.

We should focus on those things

☆Princess Abigail☆

I enjoy playing with you too

Not on this, i hate playing with myself

12:47 a.m.

So disagreeing again L

I'm willing to avoid Thom D1 if you avoid Cait cool?

Ofc

Just D1

Mhm

sounds good

12:47 a.m.

im safe

Well

12:47 a.m.

From me

12:47 a.m.

Anyways

Doc on abi btw

12:47 a.m.

She isnt cop

doc on me

But doc her

I rescind my claim

12:47 a.m.

Cool

why doesnt the doc just 50/50 nge cait

I won't stop your push on Vee

12:48 a.m.

Scum case them for me

Tommy2Hands

why doesnt the doc just 50/50 nge cait

If cait dies

12:48 a.m.

I hate to say this

not nge cait

But i wouldnt complain

i meant nge abi

12:48 a.m.

sorry

Tommy2Hands

i meant nge abi

Sure

Tell me why Vee is wolf with some of the most pure tonally posts I've ever seen?

12:48 a.m.

Tonally pure

who else can be mafia

Tonally?

12:49 a.m.

I think tonally

12:49 a.m.

He hasnt really been as towny as he could

Vee isn't providing much but they have little things

Like the tvt thingy

That are just

He just called it out

little things like what

So fucking towny

Didnt show any legit concern

12:49 a.m.

He is still lurking

12:49 a.m.

Rn

12:49 a.m.

Despite having time

12:50 a.m.

Like

12:50 a.m.

I think he knows that us finding him town

12:50 a.m.

Is more than useful

12:50 a.m.

Especially considering his low activity

12:50 a.m.

And he also tl’s me

nge ask her what little things

And considers me someone really able to read him

12:50 a.m.

Like fr fr

12:51 a.m.

So why wouldnt she make an effort on like just talking and being himself when he can

12:51 a.m.

If that is smth that can get me to find him town

12:51 a.m.

And solve the game

12:51 a.m.

Even if he doesnt have enough time to do it on his own

12:51 a.m.

I still dont tr cait i cant

12:52 a.m.

But she can be town

12:52 a.m.

Cait would indeed be probs

12:52 a.m.

The best check ever

Okay

Especially if her activity level will drop

Shit fuck

12:52 a.m.

I dunno where this started

12:52 a.m.

Send help

12:53 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148059081932800062

12:53 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147644534910615594

12:53 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147720198053445724

12:53 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147720496188760148

12:53 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148069316688887848

that first post is scummy tho

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148069974364131520

12:53 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148071708595601510

12:53 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148074099491475477

12:53 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148099938631303281

12:53 a.m.

All of these

I hate this sm

Are tonally

12:53 a.m.

Pure

12:53 a.m.

As fuck

But yeah idt i’ll

12:53 a.m.

Ever

12:53 a.m.

Get myself to sr icet

Let me explain why

tone you can just read whatever you want into it

...

And probs not thom either

Thom

12:54 a.m.

I'm good at this

12:54 a.m.

Mostly

i know you are

Anyways

but like the first post is objectively scummy

It's how I found Calla before anyone else

12:54 a.m.

It's not

12:54 a.m.

Now

12:54 a.m.

Let me talk

12:54 a.m.

Okay

its TMI-adjacent saying tvt that early

12:55 a.m.

okay but you've been talking all day

SCREAMS

12:55 a.m.

Okay

Vee

Fair that also normally takes time of me being active with others which thankfully I have plenty of time tonight

This is towny…so where is he

☆Princess Abigail☆

It's how I found Calla before anyone else

Calla was

12:57 a.m.

So

12:57 a.m.

Annoyingly

12:57 a.m.

Towny

12:57 a.m.

That game

12:57 a.m.

It was insane

The reason the TvT thing never comes from wolf is simple. The way it was played isn't for a pocket because Vee hasn't tried to buddy up to either. Calling the pushes T v T takes two of the easiest misexes off the table for Vee early and in this game state you absolutely do not take misexe targets off the table. If Vee is wolf the partner is in the T v T It's not a TMI read it's a useless read for a wolf to make.

Ngekop

It was insane

Not when I made my read

☆Princess Abigail☆

The reason the TvT thing never comes from wolf is simple. The way it was played isn't for a pocket because Vee hasn't tried to buddy up to either. Calling the pushes T v T takes two of the easiest misexes off the table for Vee early and in this game state you absolutely do not take misexe targets off the table. If Vee is wolf the partner is in the T v T It's not a TMI read it's a useless read for a wolf to make.

The tvt thing

12:57 a.m.

Is towny

Continuing

I agree

Ngekop

This is towny…so where is he

Stalking chat

That’s why i said “Fk”

Vee is towny for their treatment of me

12:58 a.m.

Because

Told you he was lurking

12:58 a.m.

Btw abi keep going

12:58 a.m.

Ignore me

that makes sense abigial

But i dont want to shut up either so just ignore me

Ngekop

Told you he was lurking

I always lurk as I tend to multitask discord

Vee

I always lurk as I tend to multitask discord

You are doing this again

12:59 a.m.

Overexplaining yourself

12:59 a.m.

Constantly

12:59 a.m.

More than getting stuff out of this game

12:59 a.m.

Vee you can do

12:59 a.m.

Way better than this as town

12:59 a.m.

And you know it

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

And if you are i seriously need you to help me

They realize I could be pocketing them and are wary of it enough to point it out but admit that it's working . This was after they pushed me. The push on me while for relatively bad reasons in my opinion did make sense from a town pov. Especially because of how Vee pulled off me. Vee pulled off while still saying they believed their read. They than explained how my play was differentthan Nges and why they town read Nges aggression but not mine it was a valid reason

You know i can find you town

1:00 a.m.

Kinda fast

Third reason

You know it damn well

I still havent talked to half the game talking with other is how I make most my reads

You are doing it again!

maybe they are scum

Stop excusing yourself on not doing anything

1:01 a.m.

The one towny thing i agree with abi

1:01 a.m.

Bc i literally

Ngekop

Stop excusing yourself on not doing anything

Sorry:(

Had a fk rxn bc it was a towntell

1:01 a.m.

Was you calling out the tvt

I just wanna make it understood for those who don't know how I play fully

1:01 a.m.

yes ik im doing it more

I do think at least one of me/thom/abi has both mafs in their poe

the tvt thing can just be explained as a scum mislpay though

Vee is town because they do not give a flying fuck if they are town read They don't care to appear towny. They don't care that they are getting pushed. They aren't going out of their way to pull pressure off them in fact they aren't doing anything at all to pull pressure off them. Wolfs. Especially in this set up. Need to survive. Wolfs. Value their life more than town. Mafia is simple. Wolfs need to survive. Wolfs do wolfy things while trying to hide their pawprints Town don't value their life. They don't care how they are read. Towns are trying to get info or generate content or sometimes just trying to do nothing cause they simply don't care. Towns value info over survival. Towns do wolfy things and don't give a fuck that they are.

1:03 a.m.

Vee is town

1:03 a.m.

I rest my case your honor

Tommy2Hands

the tvt thing can just be explained as a scum mislpay though

No

1:04 a.m.

Finding Towns being incorrectly pushed often isn't that hard

☆Princess Abigail☆

Vee is town because they do not give a flying fuck if they are town read They don't care to appear towny. They don't care that they are getting pushed. They aren't going out of their way to pull pressure off them in fact they aren't doing anything at all to pull pressure off them. Wolfs. Especially in this set up. Need to survive. Wolfs. Value their life more than town. Mafia is simple. Wolfs need to survive. Wolfs do wolfy things while trying to hide their pawprints Town don't value their life. They don't care how they are read. Towns are trying to get info or generate content or sometimes just trying to do nothing cause they simply don't care. Towns value info over survival. Towns do wolfy things and don't give a fuck that they are.

Where is vee trying to get info or generate content

1:04 a.m.

Also vee doesnt not care

I

the thing is we cant even really know if the push was correct or incorrect

He cares as town

1:04 a.m.

Fs

Literally said

In fact i think

1:04 a.m.

He literally hates

Or sometimes do nothing at all

1:05 a.m.

Pls

Being lynched d1 as town

1:05 a.m.

His goal in his 2nd game

1:05 a.m.

Was literally

Well that was because it was my first game

Not getting ml’d d1

does abi only try as mafia

1:05 a.m.

does anyone know

And he’s said it

I didnt get to learn because I was already dead

Nge

Many times

Pls

Tommy2Hands

does abi only try as mafia

I think she tries

1:05 a.m.

As either alignment

I have given a 3 part case

Vee

I didnt get to learn because I was already dead

But you get

1:05 a.m.

Reads

Rn Idc if I'm first lynch because ik how to play and it isnt my fire game

You get smth

1:06 a.m.

No way you dont get anything from all this

Wolfs aren't throwing themself into deaths jaws D1

0 way

They

1:06 a.m.

Don't

1:06 a.m.

Do

Snd you are reading it

im willing to believe you abigail but it means our poe is

That

Ngekop

But you get

I do I try when I'm down I do make a effort where I can

mel and who

You say you do them better interacting

1:06 a.m.

Yet you

cant be icet cause you all tr him

1:06 a.m.

cant be vee cause tr

Are barely doing that

1:06 a.m.

Or showing interest

1:06 a.m.

In doing so

1:06 a.m.

Which contradicts what you said befoge

1:06 a.m.

Before

Tommy2Hands

cant be icet cause you all tr him

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148121854691770419 Not all

1:06 a.m.

I don't

Tvt thingy is the only time

1:07 a.m.

I saw you

what

1:07 a.m.

i thought you were

1:07 a.m.

okay

Doing smth that helps town

well lets get him then

Nope

1:07 a.m.

I'm happy with where my vote is

☆Princess Abigail☆

Wolfs aren't throwing themself into deaths jaws D1

Vee isnt doing that

1:07 a.m.

If you think about it

I'm gonna focus on town reads now not scum reads

He isnt actively making effort to get out of it

1:08 a.m.

But he isnt really

1:08 a.m.

yet

what is the lindauaha case

Having the need

1:08 a.m.

To do so

nobody ever talked about lind this entire time

Bc you’re defending him so hard

Seriously

And he’s barely had 2 votes

1:08 a.m.

Max

1:08 a.m.

At any time

Nge has some good points as much as I like Abis case for me being town

abi

1:08 a.m.

can you elab the lind case

1:08 a.m.

or link it

No I don't really feel like pushing my scum reads anymore

1:09 a.m.

Just look at how they've treated every argument

Im so glad there is at least

Run through their iso

i think most of thats in your head

Someone who is blatant town

im not voting them tho

1:09 a.m.

you are

And cant be any townier

1:09 a.m.

This game

Who,

1:09 a.m.

?

You

1:09 a.m.

Lol

ded

Not adding to anything just

1:09 a.m.

Comment

idk

Also i still think thom is town

Why? Why are you so convinced on me?

what a stupid convo

And i know i cant get myself to tr vee just yet

this is

1:10 a.m.

we just had this

1:10 a.m.

the nge and abigail back and forth

☆Princess Abigail☆

Why? Why are you so convinced on me?

Are you kidding

1:10 a.m.

Lol

Nope

Ngekop

Also i still think thom is town

Watching current interactions by them here I do agree

Because half this thread scum reads me

Vee

1:10 a.m.

Please

So I am very interested

1:10 a.m.

In why people who are confident on me are

Ngekop

Please

Wha

abigail is being irrational

...

1:11 a.m.

How?

you just arent listening to people and jumping to rando conclusions

Vee

Wha

You tl everyone who has talked

Thom

With you

Ngekop

You tl everyone who has talked

So they could all be town

I swear to all that is holy

And I feel there all town

Which is nothing

1:11 a.m.

God isn't real

1:11 a.m.

Anyways

1:12 a.m.

I'm listening

Vee

And I feel there all town

You realize

I just don't agree

That leaves you with

1:12 a.m.

3 people

Nge is listening

1:12 a.m.

He doesn't agree

☆Princess Abigail☆

God isn't real

Damn

We've managed to cooperate where we can

1:12 a.m.

We aren't being unreasonable

I cant agree or disagree with that

Ngekop

3 people

Yes

And I've explained every single thing I've said in great detail

Vee

Yes

Which are?

So do not

I forgot

Say

Mel/lind

1:13 a.m.

Who else

That I'm making conclusions irrationally

1:13 a.m.

Ever

Ngekop

Which are?

Cait, Mel/Lind

Why , then /

☆Princess Abigail☆

No I don't really feel like pushing my scum reads anymore

x

Istg if it’s just lind/mel

1:13 a.m.

Imma just

1:13 a.m.

Punch myself 10 times

☆Princess Abigail☆

Because half this thread scum reads me

x

1:14 a.m.

stuf like that is irreational conclusions

Ngekop

Why , then /

Thought mel repped lind nope they repped sam re

But yeah it

1:14 a.m.

Isnt

No

1:14 a.m.

It's not lol

But yeah those 3

Vee

Thought mel repped lind nope they repped sam re

Ok

1:14 a.m.

You dont fake dumbtells

1:14 a.m.

So my lowkey concern

well okay

Of lind+vee

1:14 a.m.

Isnt it either

1:14 a.m.

Good

1:14 a.m.

Nor with mel actually

1:15 a.m.

Im down to not lynch vee today

1:15 a.m.

Tommy2Hands

x

I don't feel like pushing my scum reads anymore because it was upsetting Ice when I was pushing him I don't like making people upset. It's why I started focusing on town reads instead of scum reads in the first place. I don't want to make people upset because I'm aggressive

1:15 a.m.

That's not irrational

1:15 a.m.

I can be useful

1:15 a.m.

By finding town

Vee if maf is like

Ngekop

You dont fake dumbtells

I'm happy your aware of this but also sad you think there dumb

Vee

I'm happy your aware of this but also sad you think there dumb

Bro

okay abi you dont have to convince me anymore

You know what a dumbtell is

1:16 a.m.

Is like

1:16 a.m.

Ignorance yk

1:16 a.m.

Showing not knowing some public info

Ah

Vee

Thought mel repped lind nope they repped sam re

This is a dumbtell

1:16 a.m.

You arent dumb for it tho

Oh you meant that

But jw tho

1:17 a.m.

If it was 3 people

1:17 a.m.

And you acknowledged it was 3

1:17 a.m.

Why did you just write 2 in there

1:17 a.m.

As in 2 slots

Tommy2Hands

x

This is not irrational If half the thread says I'm scum And half the thread says I'm town And the people calling me town are saying I'm super obvious And the people calling me wolfs are saying I'm super obvious I'm going to be trying to solve the people calling me town to make sure I'm not being pocketed I know I'm easily pocketed so I need to protect against that Which is why I asked Nge to explain why he's so confident. The read has existed for a while but I want to see how it's evolved

1:17 a.m.

That is not irrational

☆Princess Abigail☆

This is not irrational If half the thread says I'm scum And half the thread says I'm town And the people calling me town are saying I'm super obvious And the people calling me wolfs are saying I'm super obvious I'm going to be trying to solve the people calling me town to make sure I'm not being pocketed I know I'm easily pocketed so I need to protect against that Which is why I asked Nge to explain why he's so confident. The read has existed for a while but I want to see how it's evolved

No one is calling you scum anymore ftr

yea

1:17 a.m.

^

Even lind backed off

Ngekop

Why did you just write 2 in there

Cait, Mel, Lind Comfycatsip

it was me and like

1:17 a.m.

idk

Vee

Cait, Mel, Lind Comfycatsip

Yeah but you said

and i dont think you took mine seriously

You thought mel repped lindauna

1:18 a.m.

So

1:18 a.m.

Frol that pov

1:18 a.m.

You just gave 2 slots

1:18 a.m.

When i asked for the 3 you didnt tr

I went to go look for the name I was missing

i see the logic though abi

1:18 a.m.

so its not irrational

K

1:18 a.m.

Fair

1:18 a.m.

Good

1:19 a.m.

If any of lind/mel is maf

1:19 a.m.

Vee is town

Ngekop

No one is calling you scum anymore ftr

Cool but they were lol and I'm asking for your reasons to be confident on me for a reason I get that I've asked this before but I think the read should have evolved and I want to see how

Said 2 went to find mista forgetful

I am asking for a reason

☆Princess Abigail☆

Cool but they were lol and I'm asking for your reasons to be confident on me for a reason I get that I've asked this before but I think the read should have evolved and I want to see how

You keep towntelling each time more and more as you keep talking

1:19 a.m.

That’s why i keep pointing it out

Ngekop

If any of lind/mel is maf

Let's throw em overboard >:>

Before you being at L-1

1:19 a.m.

I tr’d you

1:19 a.m.

Not even close tho

we cant get rid of mel yet (edited)

To how much i do rn

Tommy2Hands

we cant get rid of mel yet (edited)

Dont edit

1:20 a.m.

Also why not

ah

1:20 a.m.

my bad

Tommy2Hands

and i dont think you took mine seriously

I also am pretty sure people called me scum again during my most recent fight with nge so I think the take that everyone backed off is not true

No it is untrue lol

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Lind said it felt tvs

it is what it is

But didnt say who the s

1:20 a.m.

And did say you were probs not maf

i dont want to vote mel here or vote by PoE

Icet has you as like top tr

1:21 a.m.

Or smth

i think we vote for a potential deepwolf

Ngekop

To how much i do rn

Yeah I know so why did it evolve to this level what have I done that's a town tell?

☆Princess Abigail☆

Yeah I know so why did it evolve to this level what have I done that's a town tell?

All the conversation we’ve been having

1:21 a.m.

Is

1:21 a.m.

You genuinely defending your tr’s with all you’ve got and showing why the reasons you have to tr them are legit and sounding

1:22 a.m.

Showing once more you genuinely are trying to make observations to hunt for town

Just realized I sleep now or not at all so I can make my interview tmr meaning I have to miss the first day of school re

And being passionate about those that you get

Vee

Just realized I sleep now or not at all so I can make my interview tmr meaning I have to miss the first day of school re

Gl regardless of what ends up happening

Thank you nge

damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

If thom is maf he is powerwolfing 100% ftr

Ngekop

Gl regardless of what ends up happening

Ty hopefully I get a nice job

So that narrows down a lot

1:23 a.m.

His potential partners

yea i spewed myself as town i knew it would happen eventually

☆Princess Abigail☆

Thank you nge

For?

whatever happened to

Answering me

1:24 a.m.

I appreciate it

Uh yw ig

they are on a wagon with their sr

1:24 a.m.

abigal

1:26 a.m.

i dont think we should vote lindauana, their posting and progression so far seems like a legit cautious towny

Thom if maf is only with like

1:26 a.m.

Lind/mel

1:26 a.m.

And if lind/mel is maf

1:26 a.m.

Vee is town 100%

sooner or later i will need to know why people are voting lind

Okay I have paranoia that Cait could be pocketing me Her iso is 500 posts I'm not going through it lol. What I do remember is he read on Luka and the last reads list she made felt really towny to me. She explained why she was scum reading Luka and uhh Linduana and while I don't fully agree with the reads themself I could understand the progression. Their early play around me is worrisome but I think her paranoia about me not town telling was also heavily town indicative Caitlin will always be a blind spot for me I have only ever found her as wolf in FX Last game I was weirded out by her EoD which led to my attempt to cop her N1 I think this proves that despite being a blind spot I am capable of reading her free of my emotional bias. In the game where I killed her in FX I think it was also deeply indicative of me being reasonable around her.

Tommy2Hands

they are on a wagon with their sr

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148126453674815579 I will defend this by saying I joined them they didn't join me

Tommy2Hands

i dont think we should vote lindauana, their posting and progression so far seems like a legit cautious towny

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148126822643531797 Hard disagree their attempt to scum push me was not in good faith. They have often run alongside thread flow to opportunistically play around their reads. The way they played around my attempted suicide was easily the wolfiest play around me than. They pushed in hard when I put myself L-1 and only pulled off and tried to indicate a town read on me after I had convinced everyone else to get off me

doesnt seem to weird to me, they started the game SRing me because i was doing things they hadn't seen before and I think you are playing a way they havent seen before

1:35 a.m.

i think you're not considering others canour thought process so stuff like how they played when you were at L-1 (This is the attempted suicide right? Not a real thing right?)

1:35 a.m.

welp

1:36 a.m.

i think you're not considering others cannot read your throught process so stuff like how they played when you were at L-1 i don't think are that weird.

1:36 a.m.

Not sure what you mean by 'in good faith'

1:36 a.m.

i dont really know how you could gleam that from just here to be honest

1:37 a.m.

basically i can see a logic behind what lind is doing and i think its towny

shrugs

1:42 a.m.

Nobody wants to listen

1:42 a.m.

I'm not gonna keep pushing scum

1:42 a.m.

Town Core is

its a convo

1:43 a.m.

we dont just listen to you blindly

Nge Luka Cait Vee It's 7 v 2 so town core of 6 not including me wins the game I need 2 more

1:43 a.m.

I've provided so much

1:43 a.m.

Nobody cares

you have

1:43 a.m.

i care

1:43 a.m.

i just dont fully agree

I need 2 more towns

1:44 a.m.

To win the game

well you have me

That is what I am going to focus on

but i dont think luka is locked

1:44 a.m.

Luka is bleeding town

1:44 a.m.

I will never vote them

not to be that guy cause you have your reasons and I understand them but

1:45 a.m.

you say nobody listens to you but you're so 100% on your D1 reads

1:45 a.m.

i get ur solving by your own but

1:45 a.m.

its like your an island

Being on an island is usually towny lol

1:46 a.m.

Tbh

yea but idk if its right play

My confidence is faked

1:46 a.m.

But

oh

I need to fake it

you fake it well

Lol

1:46 a.m.

Nobody listens when your like I dunno these people are probably town maybe fuck

1:46 a.m.

They listen when you go

1:46 a.m.

Get off Cait she's town

1:47 a.m.

I don't believe in myself at all after last game

1:47 a.m.

However

you were like barely there

I do

1:47 a.m.

Know

1:47 a.m.

That if I find a town core D1 and stick to it until FX

1:47 a.m.

I can win games

1:48 a.m.

And scare the fuck out of the woofs

1:49 a.m.

There's a game out there with a girl named Demisha where I town read her so confidently for so long without reeval Correctly That she started to tinfoil me because of how confident I was

1:49 a.m.

But the secret is

1:49 a.m.

I wasn't confident

1:49 a.m.

I spent a long time freaking out that I was wrong

1:49 a.m.

I almost reversed my read multiple times

1:50 a.m.

I ended up pushing other D1 town reads I had that I was correct on

1:50 a.m.

And I fucked up

who are you telling this to

Because the fear I instilled in the wolfs with a perfect town core D1 was immediately taken away when I started to show doubt So that doubt is there it will always be there

1:52 a.m.

But

1:52 a.m.

I'm going to find a town core

1:52 a.m.

And blindly trust it till FX

1:52 a.m.

And wolfs either need to kill me

1:52 a.m.

Or I know I am wrong in FX

1:53 a.m.

That's

1:53 a.m.

How I can win the game

1:53 a.m.

Now

1:53 a.m.

I need to find 2 more town locks today

1:53 a.m.

Not sure I will find them though

seems like a wacky way to play

☆Princess Abigail☆

Okay I have paranoia that Cait could be pocketing me Her iso is 500 posts I'm not going through it lol. What I do remember is he read on Luka and the last reads list she made felt really towny to me. She explained why she was scum reading Luka and uhh Linduana and while I don't fully agree with the reads themself I could understand the progression. Their early play around me is worrisome but I think her paranoia about me not town telling was also heavily town indicative Caitlin will always be a blind spot for me I have only ever found her as wolf in FX Last game I was weirded out by her EoD which led to my attempt to cop her N1 I think this proves that despite being a blind spot I am capable of reading her free of my emotional bias. In the game where I killed her in FX I think it was also deeply indicative of me being reasonable around her.

I have never accused you of smth different from this abi

2:01 a.m.

And she did mention

2:01 a.m.

That game

2:01 a.m.

Last time

2:01 a.m.

Ftr

??

Hi

linguana

wanna know why I’m suddenly the top wagon for going back on the abi sr

its only top by like 1 vote no big deal

I don’t really know how people play here and I have no idea if this style of posting is normal for them

☆Princess Abigail☆

Nge Luka Cait Vee It's 7 v 2 so town core of 6 not including me wins the game I need 2 more

I cant town core with cait

☆Princess Abigail☆

Nobody listens when your like I dunno these people are probably town maybe fuck

I think hesitancy is natural for town

☆Princess Abigail☆

Nge Luka Cait Vee It's 7 v 2 so town core of 6 not including me wins the game I need 2 more

Town core of 5 wins it lmao

2:04 a.m.

Including you

the whole town core play is silly

We have 4 lynches

If you’re tunnelling too confidently on your reads it’s usually a scum tell because as town you’re generating organic reads that change with time

Mafia has 3 kills

I don’t think towncore is silly, i do think it’s too early to form one

its just doing the standard wagonomics except backwards

2:05 a.m.

the town core stuff

having a solid towncore helps poe scum

2:05 a.m.

oh we have a sub

☆Princess Abigail☆

Get off Cait she's town

Well

2:05 a.m.

Clearly i am not

2:05 a.m.

Yet

2:06 a.m.

Abi promise me if i die tn you’ll focus hard on FR solving cait tomorrow

2:06 a.m.

Even if it is based on a d2 flip

I think Abi and Caitlin seem a little quick to townread one another

2:06 a.m.

from the start of the thread

2:06 a.m.

Initially I saw this as them being aligned

☆Princess Abigail☆

There's a game out there with a girl named Demisha where I town read her so confidently for so long without reeval Correctly That she started to tinfoil me because of how confident I was

Me with kiri in the invitational

2:08 a.m.

Cait and mel

2:08 a.m.

Is probs it idc

2:08 a.m.

I still cant sr lind

2:09 a.m.

I still tl thom

2:09 a.m.

And luka

2:09 a.m.

And icet

2:09 a.m.

And hard tr abi

2:09 a.m.

Which leaves cait/mel/vee

2:09 a.m.

Which lowkey

2:09 a.m.

Locks cait as scum

2:09 a.m.

Cait or lind

2:09 a.m.

They arent both town

2:09 a.m.

0 way

2:09 a.m.

Only way would be vee+icet

2:10 a.m.

Which still uh

2:10 a.m.

Notnit

2:10 a.m.

Not it*

i could see it

Lind and cait arent both town

why are you so locked on cait

Im not

i felt linds read on cait was authentic

But if lind is town

2:10 a.m.

She is maf

not sure about the other way didnt see it yet

Look

2:10 a.m.

Abi town

2:10 a.m.

You town

2:10 a.m.

Icet/luka imo tvt indeed

2:11 a.m.

Icet is the exact same

2:11 a.m.

As ma56

2:11 a.m.

Think about it for

2:11 a.m.

10 seconds

2:11 a.m.

Pls

2:11 a.m.

You sr’d him there as well

2:11 a.m.

But it’s literally the exact same

his voting though

Luka’s frustration and progression on icet felt genuine and that feeling i got was also supported by what luka said

Tommy2Hands

his voting though

Icet’s?

yea

He voted vee and who else

2:12 a.m.

Luka

2:12 a.m.

And

2:12 a.m.

What

2:12 a.m.

You

now he's on lind

2:12 a.m.

my bro is making food and being loud as fuck

Mhm

2:12 a.m.

Idt he’d be this flip floppy as scum

2:12 a.m.

But ok

2:12 a.m.

And well

2:12 a.m.

That leaves

2:13 a.m.

Mel/lind/cait/vee

i had sam as a slight TL before mel replace

Vee isnt teamed with mel or lind

2:13 a.m.

And i still think lind+mel is unlikely

2:13 a.m.

So

2:13 a.m.

That leaves cait

Tommy2Hands

i had sam as a slight TL before mel replace

Same but it was weak af

we'll see how cait defends hermself

She’ll be upset ofc

2:14 a.m.

She hasnt been particularly scummy

I can see a cait from their quickness to townread Abi

well the

lindauna

I can see a cait from their quickness to townread Abi

Mhm same

but that aside I can’t see a Cait partner

lindauna

but that aside I can’t see a Cait partner

Mel/vee

2:15 a.m.

I hate this bc im so afraid

2:15 a.m.

Of dying n1

2:15 a.m.

And losing

2:16 a.m.

Idt i can solve this d1

2:16 a.m.

And even if i do

2:16 a.m.

I really doubt it will carry any weight

2:16 a.m.

Only thing i can say

2:17 a.m.

Is if there is a tracker

2:17 a.m.

Out tomorrow

2:17 a.m.

If there is a cop who isnt on dead or rb’d

2:17 a.m.

Out tomorrow

2:18 a.m.

Jailkeeper dont out yet…

2:18 a.m.

Masons ofc dont out if not necessary

2:18 a.m.

Do leave a code tho

2:18 a.m.

So if one of you dies

2:19 a.m.

The other can confirm the role with it

why you freaking out so much

2:19 a.m.

just a game

Well

2:19 a.m.

Bc i have put effort in it

win or lose we still have to wake up as ourselves tomorrow

And bc it’s midnight

2:19 a.m.

So like

2:19 a.m.

Ig feelings amplify or just dont get any filter

Tommy2Hands

win or lose we still have to wake up as ourselves tomorrow

Losing isnt the end of the world but i want to win lol especially when i’ve actually tried

the town core way is more work for the same results its not worth it endlessly speculating fro

2:20 a.m.

at the end of the day some things come down to wifom

Well i know

its more work for same information too

Im not even really freaking out just talking a lot

k

The mechanic play tomorrow is important to establish

2:21 a.m.

And if cait is maf and i die

how tall are you

I doubt anyone will focus on like

2:21 a.m.

Making sure town follows optimal play

Tommy2Hands

how tall are you

Idk

what do we gotta do to be optimal

1.79?

Tommy2Hands

what do we gotta do to be optimal

Depends ofc

2:22 a.m.

Report TI gets

2:22 a.m.

If we have mason/jk

2:22 a.m.

Doc/neighbor ofc always hide d2 nmw unless being bw’d i think that’s

2:22 a.m.

Kinda obv

2:23 a.m.

Masons lowkey same but

2:23 a.m.

You could take a risk

2:23 a.m.

And have one of you fake claim cop

2:23 a.m.

Leaving a code for who your partner is ofc

2:23 a.m.

Cop/tracker out if and only if a meaningful report

2:24 a.m.

In tracker’s case, someone visiting

2:24 a.m.

In cop’s case any report on alive honestly

2:24 a.m.

Things change if pr dies n1 but doesnt matter

2:25 a.m.

That’s enough i have to sleep

2:25 a.m.

But yeah like

2:31 a.m.

Cait/vee Cait/mel Cait/lind Lind/thom Vee/icet Lind/mel Lind/icet Mel/icet Cait/thom Thom/vee

2:31 a.m.

Idt the team is outside of either of these 10

2:33 a.m.

Remove thom/vee imo

2:33 a.m.

Cait/vee Cait/mel Cait/lind Lind/thom Vee/icet Lind/mel Lind/icet Mel/icet Cait/thom

2:34 a.m.

If cait is lynched and flips town and then lind is lynched and flips town

2:34 a.m.

It’s just

2:34 a.m.

Icet+mel/vee

2:34 a.m.

But that just

2:34 a.m.

Wont happen

2:34 a.m.

Lmao

2:34 a.m.

It’ll be a 2/3

2:34 a.m.

Or 3/4 if we nail mafia today

2:35 a.m.

Cait/thom least likely imo

2:35 a.m.

Eod is in uh

2:35 a.m.

14.5h

2:35 a.m.

Im good

2:35 a.m.

Cool

2:35 a.m.

Gn

Ngekop

Leaving a code for who your partner is ofc

This has become illegal

Caitlin

This has become illegal

No

2:38 a.m.

It isnt

2:38 a.m.

Lmao

2:38 a.m.

What

It is

2:38 a.m.

?

How is it???

Its a new rule???

Since when

2:38 a.m.

Where

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/648663919300182036/1134182969301532733

2:39 a.m.

It's illegal since July 27th

Ngekop

If cait is lynched and flips town and then lind is lynched and flips town

This is opportunistic af btw if me & Lind are both town

2:40 a.m.

Surely you have reasons to lock me as scum then?

lindauna

I can see a cait from their quickness to townread Abi

What exactly was quick about my townread is on Abigail?

2:41 a.m.

I think I first townread Abigail over 16h of into day 1

Ok masons consult with hosts if you can and then do the code lel

2:41 a.m.

Code is for like outside of thread stuff

2:41 a.m.

Yk

Ngekop

Code is for like outside of thread stuff

Where would masons discuss their code?

What kong did of the coded message for mason partner

I know its banned because its literally mostly for mason games

Caitlin

Where would masons discuss their code?

No need to

2:42 a.m.

?

2:42 a.m.

They do know they have a code so from their point of view

2:42 a.m.

It will be easier to find

But its illegal

How? It’s in thread discussion and reference

The rule exists to prevent masons from coding

2:43 a.m.

And from Mel to do another of those things

2:43 a.m.

Like in co11

2:43 a.m.

Let's ask Lunex then

2:43 a.m.

For clarification

That was funny and that is just like different

2:44 a.m.

Well i hope no masons have coded yet then

‍♂️

@Lune, The Comfy Camper I assume the new rule that people can't code that mainly exists due to Masons, also means this applies to Masons?

Caitlin

This is opportunistic af btw if me & Lind are both town

It isnt the case tho

2:44 a.m.

I really doubt that is it

2:45 a.m.

I think you are mafia rn if i had to guess

Give your reasons on me then

2:45 a.m.

Why shouldnt I vote you

You can vote me if you want lol

Okay

Let’s do this

2:45 a.m.

Sure

Funny how you refuse to give reasons

Not really

2:45 a.m.

I have

Clearly you don't give a fuck about actually solving me

Just wont repeat them rn

Ok

I do more than you think lmfao

So you're mafia

Clearly you havent read

2:46 a.m.

‍♂️

Indeed

2:46 a.m.

I have 20 mins naz

2:46 a.m.

Max*

Im never getting voted this game lol

10 used of it already

Ngekop

Im never getting voted this game lol

K cool

If you thunderdome me you lose and then i still live

2:47 a.m.

Bc people knows

2:47 a.m.

Im just town

2:47 a.m.

‍♂️

2:47 a.m.

(People who have been reading)

think im on caitlins side here

You'd prob go tmrw for pushing me for 0 reasons

Tommy2Hands

think im on caitlins side here

Mfmaooofbd

2:47 a.m.

Lol what?

Caitlin

You'd prob go tmrw for pushing me for 0 reasons

Never lol

2:47 a.m.

1. It wasnt for 0 reasons

Give your reasons then

what good does you not helping her do

Ngekop

1. It wasnt for 0 reasons

Yet also refuses to give them lmfao

Tommy2Hands

what good does you not helping her do

The fact i have to make

now now

Even more effort

2:47 a.m.

Than what i have done

2:47 a.m.

When i was

2:47 a.m.

Planning on going to sleep

okay leave it to me

And i have class in 8.5 hours

caitlin it was cause

2:48 a.m.

poe

2:48 a.m.

basically

Caitlin

Yet also refuses to give them lmfao

Have given them multiple times

Why is everyone cleared then

Tommy2Hands

poe

What

Beyond doubt

seems so

That is and is not it

What is it then

2:48 a.m.

Make up your mind

The progression on abi also felt disingenuous

2:48 a.m.

I said that

Whats wrong with it?

2:49 a.m.

I mindmelded with her

Literally you said

2:49 a.m.

She was probs town

Usually that means someone is town

But not lock

Yes?

Bc she didnt do

oh i remember that

2:49 a.m.

that was actually a towny ass line from caitlin

Why is the fact that I'm not townlocking her scum

Either of her two main town tells

And she didnt afaik

Then nothing happened

2:49 a.m.

Then you gave your list

2:50 a.m.

With her on top

Yes?

Alongside me ftr

Ngekop

If cait is lynched and flips town and then lind is lynched and flips town

Why are u setting up this lynch lol

Which read you only said was

I dont see the problem here?

Gth town

2:50 a.m.

That it doesnt align

2:50 a.m.

Lmfao

lindauna

Why are u setting up this lynch lol

Ikr

Ngekop

That it doesnt align

Town read =/= lock town??

lindauna

Why are u setting up this lynch lol

Ok yk what

2:50 a.m.

You want to go? Fine

Caitlin

What exactly was quick about my townread is on Abigail?

I think it was at a point where Abigail seemed ambiguous

i think its as simple as going with who had the most scummy votes which is icet or luka

Caitlin

Town read =/= lock town??

Top town read tho

2:51 a.m.

Lmao

It was the only thing I disliked about Caitlin’s iso

When you said “idk why are you getting this tr’d bc to me you’re towny ig but not that hard to lock or anything”

2:51 a.m.

Then without anything changing

I still think nge town thom town Cait townlean

She is top town

lindauna

I think it was at a point where Abigail seemed ambiguous

I decided Abbi was town after we kept agreeing on reads Earlier I sussed her but I didnt rlly remember why so that didnt weigh my read on her down anymore

Alongside me

Tommy2Hands

seems like a wacky way to play

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148133774660468798 Does it seems pretty normal to me

The person you

2:51 a.m.

Said was gth town

i actually thought about it abigail

That isnt even close to top town

think your way might be better in bigger games

Ngekop

That isnt even close to top town

True But I decided during my readslist that you prob were town due to reverse PoE

I think everyone who scumread Abigail recognised the back and forth as tvt

Only space for 2 scum

Ngekop

I cant town core with cait

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148136415620776036 I only care about it for me tbh

which back and forth?

Caitlin

True But I decided during my readslist that you prob were town due to reverse PoE

You can have one tr and put me in tl’s?

Abigail being sred

Also

I recognised the reads as a town tunnel

I think luka and icet are town

2:53 a.m.

And thom town

And I didn’t stay on her

Ngekop

Town core of 5 wins it lmao

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148136547636482068 I don't include myself I know what I'm doing. You need to consider yourself a misexe for this to work

For stuff i have said multiple times

Ngekop

I think luka and icet are town

this feels wild af to me lol

so you're saying Cait v Abi is TvT lindauana?

At least on thom and icet

lindauna

this feels wild af to me lol

Yep

Tommy2Hands

the whole town core play is silly

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148136572697452574 Explain why?

True still

2:53 a.m.

Mel/cait/lind/vee

2:53 a.m.

Has all scum

2:53 a.m.

And maaaaaybe lind/mel

luka

But otherwise

2:54 a.m.

Cait is kinda

2:54 a.m.

Always maf

Tommy2Hands

its just doing the standard wagonomics except backwards

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148136665882312734 How the fuck does this have anything to do with wagonomics lol

Ngekop

Mel/cait/lind/vee

Exceptions are like

little does abigail know

Thom with lind/cait/mel

i agree with her way now

Or vee+icet

Ngekop

Abi promise me if i die tn you’ll focus hard on FR solving cait tomorrow

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148136896501915648 I am fr solving Cait but I will look deeper at her sure whatever

But yeah sure

2:54 a.m.

Me wanting to just

2:55 a.m.

Go to sleep

dream about the game

Instead

2:55 a.m.

Of repeating what i have said

2:55 a.m.

A lot

2:55 a.m.

To cait

2:55 a.m.

Instead of her reading it

playing with cait is fun though

Means i have 0 reasons for all the reads/thoughts i gave

2:56 a.m.

And def means even if i was tr at the top with abi

2:56 a.m.

I go down to the voted person and just mafia

2:56 a.m.

And should go bc 0 reason

lindauna

I can see a cait from their quickness to townread Abi

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148138909721694269 This take is so ass me and Cait both had flip flopping reads on each other until like several hours into the game

Only way i lose a thunderdome to cait

2:57 a.m.

Is if she is pr

2:57 a.m.

But she isnt

2:57 a.m.

Bc she is

2:57 a.m.

Maf

2:57 a.m.

:)

what if its luka

2:57 a.m.

@Lukas

2:57 a.m.

@Danger!? Luka!

Looool

they forgot about you

Tommy2Hands

@Lukas

Poor guy

2:57 a.m.

Is pinged like

yea lol

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148138909721694269 This take is so ass me and Cait both had flip flopping reads on each other until like several hours into the game

Ikr

5x per day

he probably likes it dude

Lmao

they

Ngekop

You can have one tr and put me in tl’s?

You were closer to Abigail than to Sam?

2:58 a.m.

Also its funny because

2:58 a.m.

At the time everyone shitted on my Sam read

2:58 a.m.

And nobody had a problem w any other read

Yeah also i think the people you are pushing are weak town

2:58 a.m.

I said that before

that is true

2:58 a.m.

caitlin is right

And then after I'm gone, everyone suddenly has a problem with the others

And i tl them more than i did before

If my Abbi & Ngekop reads were a problem why not ask me when I was yknow

2:59 a.m.

There

2:59 a.m.

That to me doesnt rlly seem like actually solving the game

2:59 a.m.

More like benefitting me from barely being here today

Caitlin

If my Abbi & Ngekop reads were a problem why not ask me when I was yknow

The ngekop read also goes with you voting me and coming at me just for that

2:59 a.m.

Ok

2:59 a.m.

Im

2:59 a.m.

Going to sleep

2:59 a.m.

Gn

Ngekop

The ngekop read also goes with you voting me and coming at me just for that

I voted you because you refused to give a reason

3:00 a.m.

Now it turned out your reason is garbage

3:00 a.m.

So my vote is fine where it is

Sure

3:00 a.m.

So is mine

3:00 a.m.

Now fr stop pinging me pls

3:00 a.m.

Gn

Gj voting a townie

Ngekop

Now fr stop pinging me pls

You literally

3:00 a.m.

Never stop Pinging me

3:00 a.m.

When I ask for this

3:00 a.m.

So no you dont get to make that demand

K

two good friends

3:00 a.m.

you love to see it

Bye

caitlin and nge don’t seem aligned ig

Caitlin

Ikr

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148149878053146644 Hey babes you town?

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148149878053146644 Hey babes you town?

Yes

lindauna

caitlin and nge don’t seem aligned ig

yea i agree

Caitlin

Yes

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148150788162605106 Thought so

in fact

Nge looks awful in this exchange no cap

abigail

Cait looks fine

who do you have null reads on mostly?

Inb4

3:02 a.m.

☆Princess Abigail☆

Nge looks awful in this exchange no cap

I agree

I don't like that ppl are now all calling us TvS

Tommy2Hands

who do you have null reads on mostly?

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148151027405701131 I don't really do null reads but... anyone I don't town read

But w Ngekop plausible being mafia it's not awful

Is scum to me

3:03 a.m.

I don't think you're TvS

3:03 a.m.

Tbf

Oh

Your both town in my eyes

it was worse than the weird pockety engagement between Abigail and Caitlin

Nge just looks way worse lol

were people calling nge/cait TvS?

3:03 a.m.

hopefully i didnt say that

Lin & Abbi called us not aligned

3:03 a.m.

So I thought that means Tv€

And if there's a thunderdome at EoD I will kill them over you

TvS

It seemed that way

But your both in my town core

I really think there is scum in nge/abi/cait

lindauna

I really think there is scum in nge/abi/cait

Wait

just from how the interactions between the 3 have been going

I really don't

Werent we earlier your townreads

i townread u and nge

Like I'm p sure that when I went to bed

i see i see

You townread all 3 of us

but I started to question it after seeing the argument over there

3:04 a.m.

abigail was like

3:04 a.m.

null to town

We really need to start consolidating these wagons

3:04 a.m.

It's

I see

So bad

just saying this right now but lind is town

3:05 a.m.

caitlin abi

I think I need to reread the entire thread

3:05 a.m.

LOL

3:05 a.m.

I’ve not been active for periods of active discussion

Tommy2Hands

just saying this right now but lind is town

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148151700687954001 I don't see it

well we can talk rn

3:05 a.m.

lind

Tommy2Hands

just saying this right now but lind is town

I do wanna iso her later because her progression feels odd

I've not seen a compelling reason to read her town yet

But I'm standing in a train while using data

a train?

So for obvious reasons I'm not up to iso someone rn

3:05 a.m.

Yes

I have not been present for long periods of time so a lot of my re evaluations were in the moment

I'm heading to university

man europe is so

and there are people I haven’t touched upon yet including Vee

i mean im sure the train sucks in its own right

so

but its so cool

I can't wait to move to Europe

Tommy2Hands

i mean im sure the train sucks in its own right

I like trains tbf

I’ll get back to reading the whole thing when I can

Caitlin

I like trains tbf

Same

3:06 a.m.

Except when it’s crowded

Fuck the usa babes get me out of here lol

lindauna

Except when it’s crowded

Sadly thats the case rn f

yea fr abi

rip

3:06 a.m.

Im Asian

The train was supposed to be double length but its not

there was something nge said that made me sus of caitlin

3:07 a.m.

let me see if i can find it

I think most of my inconsistent progression comes from me missing out parts of the thread

I'll reply to it later

so I’ll

3:07 a.m.

Iso and read through later

3:07 a.m.

Im kinda tired lol

3:07 a.m.

I’ll probs do a summary for like

3:08 a.m.

cait abi icet thom luka nge

and look through ver

3:08 a.m.

vee

Jesus I have almost 900 messages

3:08 a.m.

Send help

how

cant find it but it was basically like a fear thing

I'm try harding

I have around 200

For once in my life

I’ve never rlly played disc mafia before I think my main issue with Abigail was like

3:09 a.m.

how exaggerated and defeatist their iso seems

3:09 a.m.

which isn’t necessarily AI

they can still be maf

3:09 a.m.

ya

it’s just neg

3:10 a.m.

regardless of alignment

Being defeatist means nothing and doesn't effect the game at all

its pretty funny to be defeatist

I liked Caitlin’s read progression minus the Abi read but their interaction with nge was kinda weird in the sense I don’t think either side genuinely found scum in the other but they persisted on their respective pushes

I could blame it on my mental health but I won't I'm just tired of feeling like nothing I say matters shrugs

☆Princess Abigail☆

And if there's a thunderdome at EoD I will kill them over you

Lost respect here

Ngekop

Lost respect here

You dont get to say that to Abigail

Yes i do

3:11 a.m.

And i did

No you don't

3:11 a.m.

Ok

You could just not thunderdome the person you promised me you wouldn't vote D1

3:11 a.m.

But

@Vee

Can we vote Ngekop

lindauna

I liked Caitlin’s read progression minus the Abi read but their interaction with nge was kinda weird in the sense I don’t think either side genuinely found scum in the other but they persisted on their respective pushes

this was why I wondered if it’s svt

Yanno

Vote cait pls

Whatevs

see like

☆Princess Abigail☆

You could just not thunderdome the person you promised me you wouldn't vote D1

I know but

3:11 a.m.

I cant

I don’t think these two

I'm never voting Cait

Im sorry

exclusively see the other as scum

☆Princess Abigail☆

I'm never voting Cait

Sure

nge just cant stay away

Vote the person you know is town

lindauna

exclusively see the other as scum

Once again

It's T v T and it's fucking stupid

Over the one

3:12 a.m.

Who you feel is town

why are we forcing a cross here

When did I imply that I am 100% sure on Ngekop

it feels ingenuine to force it

3:12 a.m.

at this point

3:12 a.m.

idk

lindauna

why are we forcing a cross here

Bc i want it

Caitlin

When did I imply that I am 100% sure on Ngekop

U didn’t

nge what did you say about caitlin being lock scum because they are the only possible partner or something

And im forcing it

which is why

3:12 a.m.

nge looks worse here

Why wouldn't you force a cross if you are both convinced the other is scum lol

they don’t seem convinced or rather Caitlin doesn’t

Abi still knows

well caitlins read doesnt feel real on nge

It's dumb because they are both town

3:13 a.m.

But

There is a slight chance

If they believe it

Of cait maf

3:13 a.m.

While she knows

yeah I can’t tell which person made a genuine read here

Of chose they cross

Im town

3:13 a.m.

So if she votes me over her

Ngekop

There is a slight chance

If there is a SLIGHT CHANCE

Yes

3:13 a.m.

Lost respect

why are u forcing a cross

3:13 a.m.

over a slight chance

lindauna

If there is a SLIGHT CHANCE

Fhpov

on day 1

lindauna

yeah I can’t tell which person made a genuine read here

Lin why are you copying Thom's read on me

lindauna

over a slight chance

That is abi’s thought

3:13 a.m.

Not mine

It feels like whenever Thom doubts me you suddenly see it as a possibility of me being mafia

I didn’t read Thoms read when I entered the thread

I had 0 need to make a push on cait here

But when Thom trusts me I look way better

I had a tr on me p much settled

LOL

If abi votes me over cait yes i lose respect for her as a player bc she wouldnt bet cait’s live on me being more likely scum than caitlin

I kinda tl Thom after reading through because i kinda follow with their progression despite it initially feeling all over the place

Cait’s live as in irl

Caitlin

But when Thom trusts me I look way better

Well mainly cause Linduana is opportunistic AF but nobody wants to pay attention to that Caitlin https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148154038785949756

Life*

Ngekop

@Vee

Oi

i dont think lind is being opportunistic

Vee

Oi

Vote cait pls

i think they're just looking for a way into the game

She is in your

3:15 a.m.

3 remaining

3:15 a.m.

Right?

Ngekop

If abi votes me over cait yes i lose respect for her as a player bc she wouldnt bet cait’s live on me being more likely scum than caitlin

So Abbi should lose respect just because she saved a townie Got ittttt Also how do you have TMI of her being town

Hhhmmmm

Let’s go then

As you can see I have not voted into this cross because I’m not convinced it’s a genuine cross

Ngekop

If abi votes me over cait yes i lose respect for her as a player bc she wouldnt bet cait’s live on me being more likely scum than caitlin

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148154199096430592 I don't really like being guilt tripped here gotta be honest

3:15 a.m.

I'm not even voting either of you

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148154199096430592 I don't really like being guilt tripped here gotta be honest

It is the opposite

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148154247167348746 I could see it but once again I wanna iso Lin first

You know i have more chances

3:16 a.m.

Of being town

Vee

Hhhmmmm

abi be like: this CONFIRMS vee as town

Even if mines are 99%

3:16 a.m.

And cait’s 98%

3:16 a.m.

To you

3:16 a.m.

You know it’s the case

Tommy2Hands

abi be like: this CONFIRMS vee as town

Rlly bad imitation

you do it then

Abigail would say it to something actually townie

Tommy2Hands

you do it then

No

I just want a better reason then there in your remaining 3

So you voting me over her is 100% bc you like her

if you think both are probably town WHY do you vote into a forced d1 cross

And that’s it

Ngekop

Cait’s live as in irl

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148154226019684433 Why are we discussing me betting my girlfriends life irl?

Which yes

3:16 a.m.

Loses respect as a player

wait she’s your irl girlfriend?

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148154226019684433 Why are we discussing me betting my girlfriends life irl?

Im saying if you had to bet smth serious af

something actually townie = someone actually townie?

Over who has more chances

3:17 a.m.

Of being scum in me/cait

Me & Abigail are dating long distance yes

okay the focus on that slot low-key makes sense LOL

You’d say cait

bc the first people u read were each other

3:17 a.m.

or among the first

So you voting me over her

so that’s nai

Caitlin

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148154247167348746 I could see it but once again I wanna iso Lin first

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148154459277492317 Just pay attention to the treatment of me and how it follows thread flow all game

lind pure here guys

Is not bc of the stuff in game

Abigail does actually read me tho She has voted me out in games also since we were dating

Caitlin

Abigail does actually read me tho She has voted me out in games also since we were dating

She said that

3:17 a.m.

In FX tho

3:17 a.m.

So

And she is right too

yeah I believe u I just found it strange that’s the first point of focus but again that’s NAI

Ngekop

In FX tho

Yes

they just mentioned how they developed their reads based on who read who first, maf doesnt think that far

So?

YEAH

Tommy2Hands

abi be like: this CONFIRMS vee as town

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148154505486143569 Man I sure do love mafia games where I'm subtly discredited constantly

That still means she is open to sussing me?

@Vee you tl’d me and poe’d cait

duuude

3:18 a.m.

I was joking on Vee

3:18 a.m.

not you

it sounded like a joke

But Ngekop if you are town can we agree to just move this argument to later >.>

Ngekop

So you voting me over her is 100% bc you like her

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148154634263867405 This is false and these accusations piss me off... more than any other

Ngekop

@Vee you tl’d me and poe’d cait

Yes but why them over my other POE it's a good question

You wanna sleep, I wanna not play while standing in a train

I am and you should know that

Vee

Yes but why them over my other POE it's a good question

0 reason

Caitlin

You wanna sleep, I wanna not play while standing in a train

Sure

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148154634263867405 This is false and these accusations piss me off... more than any other

I think they are trolling

3:19 a.m.

with the accusations

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148154634263867405 This is false and these accusations piss me off... more than any other

You 100% think there is less chance of me being scum than of her being scum

3:19 a.m.

You even

3:19 a.m.

Doubted yourself

3:19 a.m.

Hesitating lowkey

3:20 a.m.

On her

3:20 a.m.

So yes it is

3:20 a.m.

Even if you dont wanna make it go that way

3:20 a.m.

It is lol

Caitlin

0 reason

There's a reason it's just not being told likely because it may not hold weight

Me irl

Ok

3:21 a.m.

Abi

3:21 a.m.

Lol

3:21 a.m.

You know im town, you think cait is town

3:21 a.m.

You hate the fact i vote her more than the fact she votes me

3:21 a.m.

As in it tilting you

3:22 a.m.

Making you upset

3:22 a.m.

BUT

Im still more likely than her

3:22 a.m.

To be town

3:22 a.m.

So yes

I'm not voting you nge

3:22 a.m.

So

Yeah i respect you rn

3:22 a.m.

I said i wouldnt if

3:22 a.m.

This

3:22 a.m.

One sec

I will vote you at EoD if my choice is you or Caitlin

3:22 a.m.

That's all there is to it

☆Princess Abigail☆

And if there's a thunderdome at EoD I will kill them over you

^

☆Princess Abigail☆

That's all there is to it

Ok there you go

3:23 a.m.

In that scenario

3:24 a.m.

You dont go for who you believe is more likely to be scum

3:24 a.m.

And you cant

3:24 a.m.

Say smth different

3:24 a.m.

Idgaf

3:24 a.m.

You know im town, you believe cait is town and want her to be

whats important about this again?

Nothing just me being disappointed on abi

3:25 a.m.

And wanting to vote cait

3:25 a.m.

Now more than before

doesnt seem helpful 4 town

3:25 a.m.

ngekop

You wanted to vote me before so idc if you say that

pokegn

Cait is not towny

Tommy2Hands

pokegn

Dont call me that ever again

thats deflection

It isnt

Ngekop

You dont go for who you believe is more likely to be scum

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148156511193931807 I believe nge that Cait is townier than you right now

It’s me going as hard as i can

Ngekop

You wanted to vote me before so idc if you say that

this is

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148156511193931807 I believe nge that Cait is townier than you right now

Laughing then

Ngekop

Nothing just me being disappointed on abi

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148156744174948362 Manipulation is fun

I have 0 reason to go at cait when my tr is kinda established

3:26 a.m.

And cait omgus’es

actually i have a question for abigail

After having me top town

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148156744174948362 Manipulation is fun

Nah idgaf about what you think there lol

@☆Princess Abigail☆ i heard ngekop talk about it but what setups fuck us here?

But if you do feel free to

Tommy2Hands

@☆Princess Abigail☆ i heard ngekop talk about it but what setups fuck us here?

Neither

the mason one you guys were talking about

Neither setup is particularly bad

seems like its bad for town in a way

The mason one is fine

3:27 a.m.

Cop9er would probs be

3:27 a.m.

The toughest

You literally told me Cait might be town You literally promised me you wouldn't vote her today You flipped on that read on Cait without her posting Your reasons have been mediocre

3:27 a.m.

Cait is townier than you

3:27 a.m.

Sorry not sorry

Sure

3:27 a.m.

Im still

3:27 a.m.

Pushing her

3:27 a.m.

And winning this battle honestly

Tommy2Hands

@☆Princess Abigail☆ i heard ngekop talk about it but what setups fuck us here?

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148157221633540116 I don't mech spec

3:27 a.m.

Sorry

Im not losing this one lol

Ngekop

Nah idgaf about what you think there lol

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148157201920303214 That's cool I care about being manipulated though.

Im saying im not

3:28 a.m.

Intending to manipulate you there

3:28 a.m.

Bc idc

3:28 a.m.

It’s just a comment

You are losing

Im not losing lol

My guy everyone in here agreed you looked worse lol

3:29 a.m.

Every

3:29 a.m.

Single

3:29 a.m.

Person

Not really

Online

Vee doesnt

3:29 a.m.

Im p sure thom doesnt

3:29 a.m.

Im sure icet wont

Lol

And if mel is town he wont either

Ngekop

Vee doesnt

Kinda neutral rn

Lmfao

Vee

Kinda neutral rn

You’re her partner

3:29 a.m.

Good

Lmfaoooooo

I've yet to be given a reason besides there in your POE

This game is a joke

☆Princess Abigail☆

Lmfao

This proves nothing other than you wanting to be right

3:29 a.m.

You are a joke lmao

Cool

3:30 a.m.

Vee

I've yet to be given a reason besides there in your POE

I said

3:30 a.m.

Luka town

3:30 a.m.

Icet town

3:30 a.m.

Abi town

3:30 a.m.

Thom town

3:30 a.m.

You arent with linda or mel

3:30 a.m.

Bc of the dumbtell earlier

3:30 a.m.

And linda seemed to react genuinely

3:30 a.m.

To there being a replacement

3:30 a.m.

While subtly defending cait

3:30 a.m.

Which makes her more likely to be teamed with cait

3:31 a.m.

Than with mel

Ngekop

You are a joke lmao

Have fun

3:31 a.m.

I'm out

Cait’s progression is inconsistent af and she is voting her tr

There we go a reason besides POE

Aight

Vee

There we go a reason besides POE

Which i gave before

Ngekop

Cait’s progression is inconsistent af and she is voting her tr

Just bc he starts to think she can be maf

3:31 a.m.

And goes over it?

3:32 a.m.

And when she flips maf she’ll still say

3:32 a.m.

My reasons were bad

3:32 a.m.

And just got lukcy

3:32 a.m.

And stuff like that

3:32 a.m.

And i

3:32 a.m.

Dont really care

Ngekop

Which i gave before

If you did I missed it my B

I was gth town

3:32 a.m.

For her

3:32 a.m.

Then i got up with abi above everyone else

3:32 a.m.

Then i go to a vote because of all this

☆Princess Abigail☆

My guy everyone in here agreed you looked worse lol

Think twice :p

Tommy2Hands

abi be like: this CONFIRMS vee as town

Lol i misread this the first time

☆Princess Abigail☆

You literally told me Cait might be town You literally promised me you wouldn't vote her today You flipped on that read on Cait without her posting Your reasons have been mediocre

Ftr

Woah, is toxicity happening under my nose?

1. Yes she had me top tr with you. 2. Yes i did and? Changing mind isnt scummy, just more upsetting for you. 3. Yeah bc i agreed before she had some towny stuff even if she also had scummy stuff but it just couldnt be a team outside of it or at least not that i could see. 4. Hers are the lamest possible to make that 180 especially considering i had 0 reason to thunderdome her as maf when i was established as tr to like 90% of the people including cait

3:37 a.m.

So uh

3:37 a.m.

Think thrice

Mel

Woah, is toxicity happening under my nose?

From me worst was “you are a joke” replying to abigail, from abi nothing particular but general frustration exerted

are we voting people for toxicity

Ngekop

From me worst was “you are a joke” replying to abigail, from abi nothing particular but general frustration exerted

Yes, this was the post in question. It's still name-calling. Still against the rules. PLease be more careful and take a breather in the future before it gets to this point.

Yeah im

3:39 a.m.

Not replacing out

3:39 a.m.

But not giving an F about this anymore

3:39 a.m.

Do whatever the F you want :)

3:39 a.m.

3:41 a.m.

I’ll make this easier for you, i’m mason and i did code my partner bc didnt know it could be bad but partner promised not to use encryption so it wont affect, i’ll die tn and i have already posted more than enough to not get proded tn

3:41 a.m.

So just let me die and gl losing

Lmfao

I thought you were out abi

the way this could’ve been said and done without the personal attacks

do you have any reads or slot you’d like to resolve besides Caitlin

Nge, Abigail- we recommend taking a bit longer before trying to discuss this again.

just name the names I’ll iso

Me or him? @lindauna

lindauna

the way this could’ve been said and done without the personal attacks

If calling someone a joke (ftr in response to them calling the game a joke) is meaner than other stuff said before, i cant take this seriously

3:43 a.m.

Me

3:43 a.m.

But applies to you as well

I meant nge at that point

3:43 a.m.

but both tbh

That’s her answer most likely

3:43 a.m.

Yep

3:43 a.m.

Told ya

I’ll be free in 2 hours

Cait and mel tbh idc

3:44 a.m.

Team^

You realize how being called a joke when I'm putting all my effort into this game All of it At the detriment to everything else Kinda fucking hurts no

Ngekop

So just let me die and gl losing

Now this

☆Princess Abigail☆

You realize how being called a joke when I'm putting all my effort into this game All of it At the detriment to everything else Kinda fucking hurts no

So am i

3:44 a.m.

Was*

I didn't call you a joke now did I

You guys, I won't ask you again: quit it

Laughing at everything i keep saying is kinda the same

In fact I've done nothing but call you town and say stop voting Cait

IZinzanity

You guys, I won't ask you again: quit it

This discussion rn isnt even

3:45 a.m.

Being

3:45 a.m.

Mean

3:45 a.m.

Literally it’s even lowkey taking out stuff in a

3:45 a.m.

Fine way

3:46 a.m.

Strong probs but not even harsh or mean

3:46 a.m.

Still i meant it tho

3:46 a.m.

Wont move my vote, wont change anything

3:46 a.m.

Sorry partner

But it can easily escalate. Please don't argue this. Go back to the game. Thanks everyone ❤️

shrugs

3:46 a.m.

Kill Cait

Watch cait winning the cc against you bc of them thinking cait was mason

3:46 a.m.

It's whatever

Luka should wake up soon

3:47 a.m.

Something tells me... he has the key

Btw abi if you legit replaced out

3:49 a.m.

You shouldnt be talking anymore

What I'm doing is legal

3:49 a.m.

Don't worry about me

Ok

3:50 a.m.

Then you’re staying

cute gif

Cool

looks like rewrite

Bye now hopefully frrrrrrrrrrr

Abi if you don’t plan to play what can we do

we hunt scum or something

no we have 3 players who don’t wanna play

3:54 a.m.

and scum is probably slipping by as a result of the hang up over the Caitlin abi nge thing

they're just being dramatic

3:56 a.m.

mel, icet, vee

3:56 a.m.

luka

Caitlin

The rule exists to prevent masons from coding

So soft-claiming is perfectly okay where speaking in codes is outright banned. Soft-claiming is like subtly hinting at ones own role without explicitly stating it but you may not use predetermined sets of signals, phrases, symbols etc to convey information to or about anything.

these are the onyl scum that could slip by here

Give me a few hours to catch up though

just keep an eye on luka guys

that or it’s Caitlin + 1

Tommy2Hands

just keep an eye on luka guys

Which is kinda more plausible with the mason thing

elab

3:58 a.m.

if you want

3:58 a.m.

on the caitlin + 1 mason thin

3:58 a.m.

caitlin + 1, being related to masons

3:58 a.m.

not caitling + one mason

no I mean

4:02 a.m.

nge claimed Jasón

4:02 a.m.

mason

4:03 a.m.

so the read abt scum being Caitlin + 1 sounds more plausible knowing that

Rlly dont see the point of playing anymore when y'all cause my girlfriend to not even want to play anymore, and the mason can only do 'ooga booga tunnel' and then claim

but the alternative is we’re focusing too much on 2 town slots

4:03 a.m.

which are Caitlin and Abigail

Like I asked Ngekop to resolve stuff later but no he had to just claim Mason

4:03 a.m.

Dumb af

I think nge genuinely believed he found scum in Caitlin

4:03 a.m.

whether or not Caitlin is scum isn’t certain

lindauna

so the read abt scum being Caitlin + 1 sounds more plausible knowing that

Lol

Mel

So soft-claiming is perfectly okay where speaking in codes is outright banned. Soft-claiming is like subtly hinting at ones own role without explicitly stating it but you may not use predetermined sets of signals, phrases, symbols etc to convey information to or about anything.

Soft claiming is legal but coding isnt

4:04 a.m.

And hiding your teammate in your msges def would be coding

Yep

idk what coding is

Hiding stuff in code

4:04 a.m.

That needs to be deciphered or hidden under specific assumptions

4:04 a.m.

Like using the first letter of each word to spell out "mason" or something.

4:05 a.m.

that's coding

4:05 a.m.

Don't do that

Ig this does explain why Ngekop was so annoyed by me saying it was illegal

4:05 a.m.

Anyway yay time to be voted out day 1 because a mason doesn't know how to make reads

Is expanding on that something I'll need game context to fully grasp?

4:06 a.m.

Or can I ask you to explain what's happening

Ngekop is just very tunneled on me

4:07 a.m.

Because he doesnt like that I townread him & Abigail either

4:07 a.m.

Yet were now voting him after he pushed me w/o reason

4:07 a.m.

To which he gave as reason that I was voting him

4:07 a.m.

Now, Ngekop isn't a time traveller

4:07 a.m.

So it's impossible that he was voting me due to me voting him but okay

4:08 a.m.

He is conf town so now everyone will just follow his bad logic

Following confirmed town is just stupid

He also towncleared everyone but me/you/Vee/Lind and with Vee following him he will clearly only consider you/me/Lind

I don't care how confirmed you are, you can still be wrong

Mel

Following confirmed town is just stupid

Vee already for followed with little to no reason

4:09 a.m.

And Thom & Lind are immediately on me too after Ngekop's claim

4:09 a.m.

So Idk about that

The only benefit is having more insight on a "clean wagon" or knowing someones thoughts aren't controlled by an agenda

The only rational player besides us two got insulted out

woah the shade to everyone else

Caitlin

And Thom & Lind are immediately on me too after Ngekop's claim

I did not vote you

why you buddying so hard with Mel anyway

I just said nge made a genuine read

You immediately both say it's Caitlin + 1 but okay

all the stuff about abigail and replacement and stuff i would prefer not talking about at all

and my whole issue with the Caitlin/nge cross was how ingenuine the cross felt especially since Caitlin did not seem committed to it yet nge cforced a cross

Tommy2Hands

all the stuff about abigail and replacement and stuff i would prefer not talking about at all

this is irrelevant completely

4:15 a.m.

I agree

Caitlin

You immediately both say it's Caitlin + 1 but okay

i was asking her about her read

Caitlin

You immediately both say it's Caitlin + 1 but okay

I said it’s genuinely plausible

I want to reread the whole cross and the iso

lol

idk why personal relationships and insults were brought into this im tired

happens a lot

4:16 a.m.

anyways

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1k1sFzM9WU

Jennifer Löcher

Ozzy Osbourne - Fine

luka , nge, vee

4:18 a.m.

nobody voting these people right now

Tommy2Hands

why you buddying so hard with Mel anyway

Are you saying Cait is trying to get me on their good side, or saying we're both evil

i really really

4:19 a.m.

do not know because

4:20 a.m.

of everything that happened basically its hard to

4:20 a.m.

i meanr that as cair getting on your good side

Mhm, I initially read that also

yea but its too muddy to tell honestly

But it does not go against her character to be like this regardless of her alignment

4:21 a.m.

(not an insult Cait)

props to caitlin and abigail if this is like party an act. and apologises if its not im not saying it is but its just my paranoia

4:22 a.m.

yea

4:23 a.m.

anyway i was thinking

4:23 a.m.

based on how the votes are maybe nge luka vee are all shaded town here

4:24 a.m.

because with wagons like this the scum usually have their own wagons theyre pushing individually from each other

4:24 a.m.

wagons like this = all the current votes

4:25 a.m.

what u think mel?

4:26 a.m.

dont think there is any wolf voting wolf rn either

Mel: 1 - Mel Icet: 1 - thom Thom: 1 - luka Lindauna: 1 - icet Caitlin: 2 - nge, vee Abigail: 1 - abigail No vote: lindauna caitlin

So you're suggesting that the players voting on their own, as opposed to on a wagon are more likely Town?

4:26 a.m.

Or am I misreading

no i mean that luka, nge, vee are all not getting voted. I believe both mafia are voting seperate players rn cause of the vote counts

4:29 a.m.

so

4:30 a.m.

mel/thom/ice/lind/cait

4:31 a.m.

just a thought i guess i kind of forgot where i was going with this

Probably disregard my vote, Sam randomly voted himself and now that's stuck on me and I can't be assed removing it

Tommy2Hands

no i mean that luka, nge, vee are all not getting voted. I believe both mafia are voting seperate players rn cause of the vote counts

Hm, yeah that's technically ture

4:31 a.m.

true

4:32 a.m.

I'm not exactly sure what you're getting from that

i think its a more objective PoE

4:32 a.m.

abigail added into that 5 too

4:33 a.m.

mel/thom/ice/lind/cait/abigail

VCA just before getting any sense of reads. Vee is >rand evil regardless of Caits alignment but even more likely if she's Town. It doesn't make too much sense that Cait is not voting if she's mafia here and if she is. She isn't likely paired with Lind, both maf no-voting when one is in heat? Nah fam That has me initially wanting to push Vee.

4:36 a.m.

I see Caits unvote was from when they were voting Nge

4:37 a.m.

PRs often get seen as wolfy due to the nature of how it works so I can see Nge being a natural read, but also might be not a genuine path to that so that's something I want to focus on in my catch up

4:37 a.m.

This is me assuming Nge is mason, I heard that thrown around

4:38 a.m.

Them unvoting rather than voting another player, pings as more townie than self-preservistic scum would do

4:38 a.m.

than what self-pres*

Spending time on this on my first day of uni year 2 rlly isn't what I wanted to do but sigh

6:40 a.m.

I'll catch up now but hopefully blitz through it because I rlly dont wanna spend much time rn

Ngekop

Im not letting vee go like that if he fr doesnt say anything at all

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148049333971849306 I wonder what cleared Vee for you next?

Danger?! Icet!

I am a Town Citizen. My partners are Ngekop Vee Thom Caitlin Sam Lind. The Mafia are Luka the Rolecop and Abi the Goon. Sam is the Tracker while Caitlin is the Doctor. There are no chats for me to join.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148053793532031118 .-. . - . I do wonder if Ice is town for this; mafia knows it cant be B since theres Masons, so their setup should say A or C, yet Ice wrote this from a B perspective So this may be a townslip

6:43 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148057236908818522 Correct

Danger?! Icet!

but wagonomics

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148058068949676103 Why are you unvoting then what If you don't know what they are

Danger?! Icet!

luka might actually be town

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148058973833003008 Townie re-eval tho Hm

Vee

Considering what I've read for you two just now feels TvTish

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148059081932800062 IceT is townier during this convo than Luka I'd say But IceT was more sus earlier so Idk

Danger?! Icet!

I think caitlin also did but it also showns abi

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148059356059942972 I didnt rlly push you/Luka as diff check at all..? I sussed you both individually. I never said you two HAD to be TvS

Danger?! Icet!

theres no way all 3 are town

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148060801836535849 Thats only rlly the case if you/Luka are TvT And even then mafia could just let it happen So nah there doesnt have to be a wolf in me/Nge/Abbi

☆Princess Abigail☆

Ice: abi is a deepwolf theyve been pushing luka icet difference check the whole day Your progression is so ass and you need new material vote me or keep my name out your mouth I'm sick of the town scum town scum gymnastics your doing on me

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148065249333887057 For ppl that werent sure yet, the Abbi slot is just obv town

lindauna

Just because you pushed people like IceT it doesn’t give you an automatic clear also I haven’t gone through IceT yet

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148066114916589659 I personally do think Abbi/IceT can never be aligned with their interactions so far .-. They go rlly hard on hard This is kinda sus of Lindauna if one of the two is red (but Abigail obv isn't, but it does up Lind+IceT chances imo)

lindauna

im sorry I don’t tr abigail for this

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148067555689373757 Well I do She's obv town Why would town!Abbi respond like this

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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148067655924842506 Very iffy on Lindauna here during this interaction, I think she might be red Can't wait for Thom to vote me for even considering this But yea I don't rlly trust Lind here because it very much feels like she's wolf that set her mind to trying to get Abigail voted out sometime, and now Abigail is hard towntelling so she has to come up with excuses for she won't townread Abigail to still keep the options open

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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148068634078478426 Luka's persistence on this might be townie tho h

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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148069142407155802 So she gets cleared & doesn't have to play anymore?

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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148069324767117382 No progression here whatsoever Earlier Lind trusted me, now w/o me rlly talking more for several hours due to being asleep, I'm suddenly mafia And I was in her top town tier earlier too

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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148070283375300679 @c.atasyl why did you still want Lind here btw?

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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148071294554873889 Vee making constant odd votes moment

6:57 a.m.

@Vee why did you sheep onto me

6:58 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148072697968996373 IceT says some rlly sketchy things but this progression is like super townie I feel

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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148072741459726347 Wait but Lindauna you already had Ngekop as town?

6:59 a.m.

So how do you now 'agree' on Ngekop being town?

6:59 a.m.

And since you already bumped me down that's make Ngekop your only townread from earlier

6:59 a.m.

Yet here you now agree on townreading him

6:59 a.m.

That's some very odd progression

Caitlin

Yet here you now agree on townreading him

Implying that it's sudden

6:59 a.m.

Being fine on Abbi/me also comes again after Abbi is trusted

7:00 a.m.

So that also ties into the opportunism again

7:00 a.m.

@Tommy2Hands if you're town don't immediately vote me for sussing Lindauna but instead read this bit

7:01 a.m.

Because I think it's pretty incriminating

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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148098377045778483 Ikr

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https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148098507618668554 But I didn't respond in a sus way lol

7:03 a.m.

I also think it's rlly odd anyway that you scumread me for OMGUSing you when you literally know I do that every game

7:03 a.m.

So like after you wake up re-evaluate because it makes 0 sense

7:03 a.m.

You also literally OMGUS every game

7:03 a.m.

You also OMGUSd me rightaway

7:03 a.m.

If I was mafia why would I push you anyway?

7:03 a.m.

I'd stay miles away due to your tendency to OMGUS

7:04 a.m.

I'd instead push a spot like Vee who probably won't OMGUS and also doesn't get some angry defenders on me

I feel like self pmeta is a weak justification here

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148110060397023352 Ngekop literally hard claimed Citizen as Mason .-.

lindauna

I feel like self pmeta is a weak justification here

How is that self meta?

nge kept implying they’re gonna get killed which implied they’re a pr of some sort

7:07 a.m.

I think the mason claim is valid

Caitlin

I also think it's rlly odd anyway that you scumread me for OMGUSing you when you literally know I do that every game

this is self pmeta

Caitlin

I'd instead push a spot like Vee who probably won't OMGUS and also doesn't get some angry defenders on me

also self pmeta

True

7:07 a.m.

But its still odd to sus me for it

7:08 a.m.

OMGUSing also isn't sus anyway

I feel like you can make a better case for being town over omgus and self pmeta

So Imo Ngekop should stop sucking and not scumread someone for smth NAI that he knows I always do as town

lindauna

I feel like you can make a better case for being town over omgus and self pmeta

Why do I even have to make a case for myself anyway?

7:08 a.m.

It's not my task to solve myself

I think omgus is situationally scummy because interaction mainly with the people on ur wagon doesn’t make you look good

I already know my alignment

because you’re one of the main wagons

lindauna

I think omgus is situationally scummy because interaction mainly with the people on ur wagon doesn’t make you look good

I interacted with like every spot already I believe

7:09 a.m.

So thats just false but okay

u were mostly on nge

7:09 a.m.

until they revealed mason claim

7:09 a.m.

And you were going at me for reading your interactions as svt

I pushed IceT and Luka p much the entire first half of the day

7:09 a.m.

I talked by far the most with Abigail

7:09 a.m.

I'm rn pushing you

despite not committing to that cross while it was going on

So don't say I'm only interacting with Ngekop

I felt it was ingenuine

lindauna

And you were going at me for reading your interactions as svt

How is that sus?

7:10 a.m.

And why does that mean I have to cross it

lindauna

I felt it was ingenuine

Thats bs btw

you didn’t but u were on that cross

At the time you said Nge looked worse than me

despite saying u weren’t confident

And now Ngekop is claimed and not I'm the more sus

lindauna

despite saying u weren’t confident

Yea?

they did until the claim I read them as pr or deep wolf

Why would I have to be 100% sure to vote someone

7:10 a.m.

Then I'd never be able to vote someone p much

you pushed very hard for a wagon you’re not confident on

7:11 a.m.

and I read that interaction as svt

Because I was annoyed at Ngekop

7:11 a.m.

K

7:11 a.m.

Wasnt here to realtime

7:11 a.m.

So gj you got me to go away again

7:11 a.m.

Just fucking vote me out Ig

I haven’t voted you because I want to hear from you real-time

7:12 a.m.

idk why the general attitude of the thread is to go into defeatist mode the moment you’re scumread

Town Ngekop Abigail Mel Thom IceT Vee Luka Lindauna Mafia @Alive Line NE sheep this after I get voted out

lindauna

I haven’t voted you because I want to hear from you real-time

And I don't wanna realtime

you have the same number of votes as me and I haven’t even voted you yet

So?

7:13 a.m.

You 100% vote me later on because you're mafia

Idk why you’re assuming I’m voting u out here

7:13 a.m.

lol?

Thom votes me due to possibly thinking of sussing you

Caitlin

Town Ngekop Abigail Mel Thom IceT Vee Luka Lindauna Mafia @Alive Line NE sheep this after I get voted out

My spot based on Sam yeah?

and you’re not doing much to change my mind on why I shouldn’t vote you

No way both IceT and Luka vote to save me, especially with them likely not being TvT

Mel

My spot based on Sam yeah?

Correct

7:13 a.m.

Wasnt sure if I should place you or Thom higher

You pushing me over read hesitancy and my progression conflicting with real time engagement feels very opportunistic, you’ve never played with me before

I see you got Vee fairly low, from what I know I think they’re a wolf would you consider voting them instead? That being said I haven’t started catching up properly yet

But you didnt have interactions with me So if you solve me due to realtime

7:15 a.m.

How come your read on me changed twice w/o me posting

lindauna

You pushing me over read hesitancy and my progression conflicting with real time engagement feels very opportunistic, you’ve never played with me before

Explain how it’s opportunistic

Mel

I see you got Vee fairly low, from what I know I think they’re a wolf would you consider voting them instead? That being said I haven’t started catching up properly yet

I mean sure but I think I caught Lindauna

7:15 a.m.

She kinda slipped up not having actual progression on Ngekop

your engagement with abigail early was strange idk how u townread them

Caitlin

I mean sure but I think I caught Lindauna

ok if I flip mafia who’s my partner and who’s town

She was like 'Ngekop is now town I think'

Let’s solve for that

After having Ngekop as top town

lindauna

ok if I flip mafia who’s my partner and who’s town

Luka or Vee, the others

Caitlin

She was like 'Ngekop is now town I think'

I was conflicted due to his engagement with you appearing SvT

7:16 a.m.

and at that point he looked worse

No

7:16 a.m.

I mean earlier

7:16 a.m.

Like

7:16 a.m.

10 hours ago

7:16 a.m.

You first said me/Ngekop town

7:16 a.m.

Then me/Abigail mafia (I didnt post)

7:17 a.m.

And then me/Abigail/Ngekop all suddenly town

yeah and after seeing both of my town reads engage in what seemed like a SvT cross

When Ngekop should have already been your top town

I didn’t know how to evaluate that

Alr gonna catch up now reads pending, I’ll post shit if I feel it necessary

lindauna

yeah and after seeing both of my town reads engage in what seemed like a SvT cross

But 10h ago there was not a cross

7:17 a.m.

I wasnt even

And my early reads didn’t seem to hold with the real time engagement

Here

7:17 a.m.

I was literally asleep

Caitlin

And then me/Abigail/Ngekop all suddenly town

I was rlly hesitating with my reads at this point because Abigail did a lot of negtown things

7:18 a.m.

I read that you and Abigail were of the same alignment

7:18 a.m.

and that nge was town but I hesitated a lot there

7:18 a.m.

Abigail is still voting themselves which isn’t helping town

lindauna

and that nge was town but I hesitated a lot there

But you never showed this hesitation

7:19 a.m.

So I find that kinda hard to buy

7:19 a.m.

Why did you hesitate on him

lindauna

Abigail is still voting themselves which isn’t helping town

The slot currently isn't occupied so I assume the slot will be like that for a while

Danger!? Luka!

Im hammering anybody at l-1 d1

We should get Luka to L-1 fr fr

7:20 a.m.

Icets early game is bad

7:21 a.m.

Like very very early game

Caitlin

But you never showed this hesitation

I didn’t want to go back on every single initial read I had - I think I initially saw nge town Thom scum and Lyla scum

Mel

Icets early game is bad

Agreed

I didn’t read IceT since everyone else was on that slot

lindauna

I didn’t want to go back on every single initial read I had - I think I initially saw nge town Thom scum and Lyla scum

sorry Luka not Lyla

Caitlin

47%

Ayy that's pretty good

I ended up seeing Thom as null because he said his contributions will come in later and nge asked me to not tunnel and had a good reasoning behind his Thom townread that i somewhat agreed with

(aka bookmark my food arrived)

I think Thom is actually town here with nge and I’m gonna leave that as my top townread, Abigail im not confident on but I’d say townlean because they drew an incredible amount of attention to themself that’s implicating in a manner I don’t think scum will do

7:25 a.m.

I think I haven’t gone through IceT and Sam/Mel at all, Vee doesn’t have a lot of alignment indicative content so I’ll leave that as null

Anyway y'all know my reads and uni starts again Sorry for defeatism but it's just very very demotivating when my girlfriend practically was bullied out of the game and the confirmed town who realistically should know I'm town is pushing me for bs reasons and claims for little to no reason when he also could've just tried to persuade me that he is town normally Like I also offered just talking more peacefully later today but no he had to just do it all there and immediately claim Mason And now we lose 1 PR so that's annoying af and very suboptimal I already spent way too fucking much time on this during my first day of uni when I'm just rlly anxious and stressed for it so I don't wanna spend more time on this now. I have been stating this before which is why I wanted to avoid realtiming but practically nobody respected my decision to spend time on smth more important So now I'm just gonna go away. I'll be back like 1h before EoD maybe. Maybe a bit more or less than 1h. I won't be there long that time Also I'm obviously Citizen as I have already slipped that multiple times, so anyone that will be like 'Caitlin is gonna cc Ngekop!', nope, I'm Citizen. Ngekop is def Mason because he has done plays like this before. It's very annoying.

Tbh vee voting with nge when Caitlin potentially gets voted out is interesting and I think if they flip mafia we’d solve for vee as well

lind what's ur solve rn

I have not read through you and IceT yet

I just came back so understandable

lindauna

Tbh vee voting with nge when Caitlin potentially gets voted out is interesting and I think if they flip mafia we’d solve for vee as well

Well I flip green but okay

Cait that's a useless thing to say

Idc

A lot of the things you're saying seems slightly manipulative

So?

7:27 a.m.

Why would I care?

and if Caitlin flips maf I’d say it implicates Luka/IceT

lindauna

and if Caitlin flips maf I’d say it implicates Luka/IceT

Lol

Caitlin

Why would I care?

Because if you're Town, you shouldn't do things that make you look bad. Especially when you're being pushed

Mel

Because if you're Town, you shouldn't do things that make you look bad. Especially when you're being pushed

I mean I get voted out no matter what I do

I feel like the amount of defeatism from Caitlin this early on when their wagon doesn’t have active traction and I’m not voting them is a sl

So I at least don't think ppl should waste time on preflipping me red wehn I in fact flip green

7:29 a.m.

If you're town spending time on solving with a green flip on me is way more worth it

I was excited to play with you Cait please take a step back, I don't like it when you're acting all defeated. I'm willing to have an open discussion with you but when it's all "poor me" I can't and won't do that

I also don't buy that you're so sure that you only preflip me red

Mel

I was excited to play with you Cait please take a step back, I don't like it when you're acting all defeated. I'm willing to have an open discussion with you but when it's all "poor me" I can't and won't do that

Well I can't and don't want to play anyway

If you flip green I’d look more into Vee

Then stop talking

and maybe Abigail because of how hard the two slots defended each other

Caitlin

Only final vote counts ye

That's... not true

Caitlin

Just to have 67% chance of getting a wolf

Yk that law dies once you do shit knowing it exists

Hi Mel

Tommy2Hands

them saying they're not PR

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147648296387612752 This entire back and forth between Nge and Cait rubs me the wrong way. I think(?) I understand why Nge asked but Cait seems to be having relatively forced. Bookmarked

7:40 a.m.

I do not like the feeling of this game at all

7:40 a.m.

I feel like saying a suspicion on Cait will get me screamed at and that's a gross feeling

@nge ily

7:51 a.m.

Ngekop

what's fmpc????

NOTE: I hate catching up because I tend to skim everything cuz I have focusing issues. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147769499416805427

I feel like explicitly stating the obvious without following it up into a read is inherintly scummy since that’s information over analysis and town needs analysis

Linduana

Haven't heard the term info over analysis in a long ass time. I like this, and going immediately into hunting wolves. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147787116269539388

vee is like the one person i can easily see being mafia

Nge

I'm seeing Vee/Cait/Icet/Thom as my four. I like Luka and your claim lines up with your early D1 plays so those are my stronger reads. I wanna kinda push one of Vee/Icet/Thom aorn instead of Cait. VCA makes me like Cait more than the other two. -- I like Lind's read on Thom. Which has me beginning to like Thom somewhat, but that's weak so he's still in my four. But realistically Sam is 100% mafia, no doubt. https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147794076322758716

Knowing about the law doesn't discredit its validity. In semi 1 after rerand everyone was acutely aware that Cait was using my read and yet the law still happened in the rerand. It's based on subconscious thought not active thought

If there's a voter on there that knows about it, yes. Yes it would https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1147912997403099247

What is your read on me

Cait.

This rubs me the wrong way. Asking for the read on yourself is often used to see where you're standing. This is different than asking why a person has a read on youbut directly asking is something that rubs me the wrong way. As a Town I expect you to ask for their reads on X, Y, Z that you want their thoughts on. Asking about yourself gets you nowhere. -- Bookmarking on Nge's post as character cap is approaching fast.

7:57 a.m.

Yes I lost Nitro it's very sad

7:57 a.m.

(not really I just don't care for it)

7:58 a.m.

Be back soon actually

@cait ily

8:21 a.m.

Hoping this doesn't void my request But I do want to say this mostly to Nge. The rest of town should here it as well I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW CAITLINS ALIGNMENT Cool. So. @Ngekop the reason I asked you to give Caitlin a d1 pass which you agreed to btw was because I actually wanted to play a mafia game with my girlfriend where she isn't killed day 1 or night 1. Is this selfish? Yes. Is it awful and anti town? No Because I know how busy she is irl and I know she can obv town herself when given time. Caitlin being upset and frustrated and defeated is NAI I wouldn't read into it at all. Caitlins emotional reaction to things is readable. It's not something I'm gonna give away the keys to the kingdom to say though. I just wanted to give Caitlin time while she got settled into uni on her first day and give her time so I could actually play with her. That's why I asked you to give her a D1 pass. That's why I promised to cop check her N1 That's why I continuously kept saying that there's probably one wrong in my town core. I said it was Luka as a reaction test cause Luka is fucking so obvious town and I wanted to see how people would react to that. I'm still not gonna vote Cait today I had an early town lean on her that went away based on how she was playing around me I talked about that earlier her read on me seemed to flip based on how I was reading her. I do actually think she looked better in the fight with Nge because I think Nges unwillingness to play ball and help a Caitlin who's very busy understand the logic behind the push on her is just anti town you can sum up your case to her it's not that big a deal but whatever. I don't think either side looked particularly amazing though. Cait is my blind spot I currently don't think she's been very towny. She wouldn't actually be in my town core if I wasn't trying to keep her alive. The rest of my town core is pure. Nge Vee Luka These people are bleeding town and should be hard protected. I say this with utmost confidence. The wolfs are in Ice Mel Cait Linduana Me Thom I think Mel's entrance is town as fuck I would add them to my town core. Meaning wolfs are in Me Cait Ice Linduana Thom. I'm honoring my agreement with Nge to not kill Thom I am pretty confident that if Nge is mason it's with Thom didn't really read if he said who it was with but I'm just gonna say it's obvious lol Cool. Cool. I'm out. Seriously don't kill my town core.

9:55 a.m.

And Caitlin I fucking love you so god damn much ❤️

☆Princess Abigail☆

Hoping this doesn't void my request But I do want to say this mostly to Nge. The rest of town should here it as well I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW CAITLINS ALIGNMENT Cool. So. @Ngekop the reason I asked you to give Caitlin a d1 pass which you agreed to btw was because I actually wanted to play a mafia game with my girlfriend where she isn't killed day 1 or night 1. Is this selfish? Yes. Is it awful and anti town? No Because I know how busy she is irl and I know she can obv town herself when given time. Caitlin being upset and frustrated and defeated is NAI I wouldn't read into it at all. Caitlins emotional reaction to things is readable. It's not something I'm gonna give away the keys to the kingdom to say though. I just wanted to give Caitlin time while she got settled into uni on her first day and give her time so I could actually play with her. That's why I asked you to give her a D1 pass. That's why I promised to cop check her N1 That's why I continuously kept saying that there's probably one wrong in my town core. I said it was Luka as a reaction test cause Luka is fucking so obvious town and I wanted to see how people would react to that. I'm still not gonna vote Cait today I had an early town lean on her that went away based on how she was playing around me I talked about that earlier her read on me seemed to flip based on how I was reading her. I do actually think she looked better in the fight with Nge because I think Nges unwillingness to play ball and help a Caitlin who's very busy understand the logic behind the push on her is just anti town you can sum up your case to her it's not that big a deal but whatever. I don't think either side looked particularly amazing though. Cait is my blind spot I currently don't think she's been very towny. She wouldn't actually be in my town core if I wasn't trying to keep her alive. The rest of my town core is pure. Nge Vee Luka These people are bleeding town and should be hard protected. I say this with utmost confidence. The wolfs are in Ice Mel Cait Linduana Me Thom I think Mel's entrance is town as fuck I would add them to my town core. Meaning wolfs are in Me Cait Ice Linduana Thom. I'm honoring my agreement with Nge to not kill Thom I am pretty confident that if Nge is mason it's with Thom didn't really read if he said who it was with but I'm just gonna say it's obvious lol Cool. Cool. I'm out. Seriously don't kill my town core.

why is vee bleeding town

if Cait flips mafia vee is town

10:02 a.m.

voted early on the wagon with nge who is lockdown

10:02 a.m.

locktown

sure but youre not abi

I wrote a 3 part case about it

10:05 a.m.

It was really detailed

10:05 a.m.

I don't know if I'm allowed to keep posting or not lol

10:05 a.m.

I'll go find the quotes though I already posted anyways

10:08 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148119650043953152 Part 1 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148119767627087912 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148120275699908648 Part 2 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148121113533108244 Part 3 I am entirely confident Vee is town who just doesn't give a fuck. I would bet my life on it.

I think Mel's entrance is town as fuck I would add them to my town core.

Care to explain?

That's a lie I'm never confident on shit and I don't value my life irl at all lol betting my life means nothing

☆Princess Abigail☆

That's a lie I'm never confident on shit and I don't value my life irl at all lol betting my life means nothing

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148119650043953152 Part 1 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148119767627087912 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148120275699908648 Part 2 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148121113533108244 Part 3 I am entirely confident Vee is town who just doesn't give a fuck. I would bet my life on it.

noted

Mel

I think Mel's entrance is town as fuck I would add them to my town core.

Care to explain?

@☆Princess Abigail☆

i feel like trying to read 2 people who dont want to play the game is painful

Everyone who doesn't want to play this game has more content than the rest of the game combined and is readable

Mel

@☆Princess Abigail☆

Hi Mel sorry was doing something

10:18 a.m.

Answer

☆Princess Abigail☆

Everyone who doesn't want to play this game has more content than the rest of the game combined and is readable

so true

10:19 a.m.

:wowee

How dare you do anything but mafia?!

this game has gotten way too emotion in the middle it felt kinda hard to play sorz

I think the way you tried to understand and mediate the emotional intensity between me Cait and Nge was towny you were trying to calm us all down while still searching for answers. Wolfs generally would rather let that thread distraction go on for as long as possible especially since it mucks up the water since at most 1 of the participants is wolf and 2 are town. I think that the way you are treating Caitlin and her emotions here this last little bit telling her how you wanna play with her trying to calm her down but still pointing out where you see problems with how she's acting is towny. It vaguely reminds me of how you and I found each other in Co11

10:21 a.m.

Oh

10:21 a.m.

Also

nge says thom is town abi says mel is town abi says vee is town ~~if theyre wrong its their fault not mines~~ ill trust their reads that brings us to cait / lind abi doesnt want cait dead D1 and ill respect it >>>> kill lind

Refusing to move the self vote which... is weak but I don't think a town ever keeps the vote on themself on sub in I think they pull it off knowing they are likely a target of suspicion based on activity of their slot

Danger?! Icet!

nge says thom is town abi says mel is town abi says vee is town ~~if theyre wrong its their fault not mines~~ ill trust their reads that brings us to cait / lind abi doesnt want cait dead D1 and ill respect it >>>> kill lind

You could kill me than sheep my town core if you wanted that would be fun https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148261580207820871

i agree thom is town but im leaning to a cait vote because in addition to my sr on them i think they solve for other slots like vee and abigail

In what ways do they solve me and Vee?

your interactions with caitlin seem like buddying especially early on in the thread, by VCA i dont think Vee votes partner at a time they risk having plur given there is traction on that wagon and they were the second vote

10:24 a.m.

if caitlin is mafia it clears vee as town

10:26 a.m.

if caitlin is town we'd be looking into abi

Caitlin

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148067655924842506 Very iffy on Lindauna here during this interaction, I think she might be red Can't wait for Thom to vote me for even considering this But yea I don't rlly trust Lind here because it very much feels like she's wolf that set her mind to trying to get Abigail voted out sometime, and now Abigail is hard towntelling so she has to come up with excuses for she won't townread Abigail to still keep the options open

reads to me as town who doesn’t want to be wrong

lindauna

your interactions with caitlin seem like buddying especially early on in the thread, by VCA i dont think Vee votes partner at a time they risk having plur given there is traction on that wagon and they were the second vote

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148262309509210192 How lol

10:38 a.m.

Vee is already town btw regardless of Cait

10:38 a.m.

And people should stop trying to say otherwise

Caitlin

Why do I even have to make a case for myself anyway?

lol

10:42 a.m.

I wonder what people think of what caitlin said about IceT

Caitlin

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148066114916589659 I personally do think Abbi/IceT can never be aligned with their interactions so far .-. They go rlly hard on hard This is kinda sus of Lindauna if one of the two is red (but Abigail obv isn't, but it does up Lind+IceT chances imo)

this one

Caitlin

The only rational player besides us two got insulted out

This is so wrong in so many ways

i feel like caitlin is town but i feel like theyre also mafia

10:44 a.m.

tis what it tis

Pls don't say anything else about me

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Nothing did

Talk about play whatever

10:47 a.m.

But not me

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i see luka low

10:48 a.m.

im intrigued

Tommy2Hands

i feel like caitlin is town but i feel like theyre also mafia

if i flip tn and im town who would u read as maf

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You did ftr

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Exactly

Mel

I see you got Vee fairly low, from what I know I think they’re a wolf would you consider voting them instead? That being said I haven’t started catching up properly yet

test

Tested

Pls tell me you aren't ping responding to every Caitlin post

lindauna

if i flip tn and im town who would u read as maf

caitlin, luka, vee same people really

Also you both omgused each other lol

if abigail or nge is a deepwolf we will have some serious personal issues

Hence you enforced it here bc in this particular case if you genuinely had me as town it wouldnt be what happens just bc i consider you being maf bc i wasnt even tunneling

10:50 a.m.

Zzz

Tommy2Hands

caitlin, luka, vee same people really

kinda agree tho id add abi there

im kinda okay with voting Vee here even though i feel theyre fonna flip green

i think caitlin gives info more than vee does

I stg

stg

What?

?

Caitlin

Town Ngekop Abigail Mel Thom IceT Vee Luka Lindauna Mafia @Alive Line NE sheep this after I get voted out

No

I'm focusing on other things but I'd prefer Icet

10:51 a.m.

Than Cait

Why the fuck would you vote someone you just said is gonna flip green

10:52 a.m.

Who's

10:52 a.m.

Obv

10:52 a.m.

Town

10:52 a.m.

Pls dear lord in heaven hold me back

i dont see her as obv town

10:52 a.m.

and i dont think any of her pushes so far have been genuine

Tommy2Hands

im kinda okay with voting Vee here even though i feel theyre fonna flip green

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148269048623284325 This

10:52 a.m.

Not you

10:53 a.m.

I already explained how I feel about Caitlin I don't think she's particularly towny

10:53 a.m.

Read that post

10:53 a.m.

Vee is tough

10:53 a.m.

Though*

engaging with this is kinda frustrating here so im gonna come back after a while

Caitlin

Anyway y'all know my reads and uni starts again Sorry for defeatism but it's just very very demotivating when my girlfriend practically was bullied out of the game and the confirmed town who realistically should know I'm town is pushing me for bs reasons and claims for little to no reason when he also could've just tried to persuade me that he is town normally Like I also offered just talking more peacefully later today but no he had to just do it all there and immediately claim Mason And now we lose 1 PR so that's annoying af and very suboptimal I already spent way too fucking much time on this during my first day of uni when I'm just rlly anxious and stressed for it so I don't wanna spend more time on this now. I have been stating this before which is why I wanted to avoid realtiming but practically nobody respected my decision to spend time on smth more important So now I'm just gonna go away. I'll be back like 1h before EoD maybe. Maybe a bit more or less than 1h. I won't be there long that time Also I'm obviously Citizen as I have already slipped that multiple times, so anyone that will be like 'Caitlin is gonna cc Ngekop!', nope, I'm Citizen. Ngekop is def Mason because he has done plays like this before. It's very annoying.

Lol

lindauna

engaging with this is kinda frustrating here so im gonna come back after a while

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148269622760570990 ???

Mel

I feel like saying a suspicion on Cait will get me screamed at and that's a gross feeling

Ikr

Ngekop

Lol

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148269640871596083 Exactly what's funny there?

sude

10:54 a.m.

dude

10:54 a.m.

can we stop with tgis shit

With what

10:55 a.m.

People are playing the game

not rn

Entirely calmly

☆Princess Abigail☆

Hoping this doesn't void my request But I do want to say this mostly to Nge. The rest of town should here it as well I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW CAITLINS ALIGNMENT Cool. So. @Ngekop the reason I asked you to give Caitlin a d1 pass which you agreed to btw was because I actually wanted to play a mafia game with my girlfriend where she isn't killed day 1 or night 1. Is this selfish? Yes. Is it awful and anti town? No Because I know how busy she is irl and I know she can obv town herself when given time. Caitlin being upset and frustrated and defeated is NAI I wouldn't read into it at all. Caitlins emotional reaction to things is readable. It's not something I'm gonna give away the keys to the kingdom to say though. I just wanted to give Caitlin time while she got settled into uni on her first day and give her time so I could actually play with her. That's why I asked you to give her a D1 pass. That's why I promised to cop check her N1 That's why I continuously kept saying that there's probably one wrong in my town core. I said it was Luka as a reaction test cause Luka is fucking so obvious town and I wanted to see how people would react to that. I'm still not gonna vote Cait today I had an early town lean on her that went away based on how she was playing around me I talked about that earlier her read on me seemed to flip based on how I was reading her. I do actually think she looked better in the fight with Nge because I think Nges unwillingness to play ball and help a Caitlin who's very busy understand the logic behind the push on her is just anti town you can sum up your case to her it's not that big a deal but whatever. I don't think either side looked particularly amazing though. Cait is my blind spot I currently don't think she's been very towny. She wouldn't actually be in my town core if I wasn't trying to keep her alive. The rest of my town core is pure. Nge Vee Luka These people are bleeding town and should be hard protected. I say this with utmost confidence. The wolfs are in Ice Mel Cait Linduana Me Thom I think Mel's entrance is town as fuck I would add them to my town core. Meaning wolfs are in Me Cait Ice Linduana Thom. I'm honoring my agreement with Nge to not kill Thom I am pretty confident that if Nge is mason it's with Thom didn't really read if he said who it was with but I'm just gonna say it's obvious lol Cool. Cool. I'm out. Seriously don't kill my town core.

Thom isnt mason

yea

Also like

I don't believe you

im not

Then you voting me over cait still was either a fake statement

10:55 a.m.

Or smth not bc of this game

Which was literally my sole issue

It was fake nge

10:56 a.m.

I was never voting either of you

10:56 a.m.

I just wanted you to leave her the fuck alone

10:56 a.m.

And keep your promise

10:56 a.m.

Still would prefer you leave her alone but I'm not gonna stop a kill on her now that my actual feelings are in thread

10:57 a.m.

I even repeatedly attempted to get you both off each other

Caitlin

Anyway y'all know my reads and uni starts again Sorry for defeatism but it's just very very demotivating when my girlfriend practically was bullied out of the game and the confirmed town who realistically should know I'm town is pushing me for bs reasons and claims for little to no reason when he also could've just tried to persuade me that he is town normally Like I also offered just talking more peacefully later today but no he had to just do it all there and immediately claim Mason And now we lose 1 PR so that's annoying af and very suboptimal I already spent way too fucking much time on this during my first day of uni when I'm just rlly anxious and stressed for it so I don't wanna spend more time on this now. I have been stating this before which is why I wanted to avoid realtiming but practically nobody respected my decision to spend time on smth more important So now I'm just gonna go away. I'll be back like 1h before EoD maybe. Maybe a bit more or less than 1h. I won't be there long that time Also I'm obviously Citizen as I have already slipped that multiple times, so anyone that will be like 'Caitlin is gonna cc Ngekop!', nope, I'm Citizen. Ngekop is def Mason because he has done plays like this before. It's very annoying.

jesus christ lol

10:58 a.m.

the blaming of othees

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148269640871596083 Exactly what's funny there?

That im probs unvoting cait over that

I'm resisting saying a lot of things here I still won't vote Caitlin but I won't defend her either Still I think you should stop with the way you are responding to her. You know how emotional she is and you are attempting to prod it. Your responses here are not helping anyone they are not providing new info their sole purpose is to upset her

Ngekop

That im probs unvoting cait over that

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148270938224341032 Kay... why?

10:59 a.m.

You confuse me nge

10:59 a.m.

I love the fuck out of you but you confuse me

10:59 a.m.

Can we PLEASE

10:59 a.m.

Leave Caitlin alone

Whatever abi

And stop piling on her with the same takes

I changed my mind again

Mel

A lot of the things you're saying seems slightly manipulative

thank youuuu

Cait can be scum

seriouslt

She doesn't need to be told 5 times the same thing

But i just

11:00 a.m.

Cba

its manipulation

With all this

I'm

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Literally

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Being

11:00 a.m.

Nice

11:00 a.m.

I

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Want

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To

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Understand

11:00 a.m.

Holy

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Fuck

Who said you werent?

Every time I try to work with you

11:01 a.m.

You act like I'm the root of all evil

The i cba

11:01 a.m.

Is just

11:01 a.m.

Not you

11:01 a.m.

It is everything that would take to get cait lynched d1

☆Princess Abigail☆

You act like I'm the root of all evil

You're money?

I wish

Which isnt like

Than my life wouldn't fucking suck ass lol

Mel

I feel like saying a suspicion on Cait will get me screamed at and that's a gross feeling

this

Voting me feels like it came out of the blue

Nge

Sup

You are getting Cait killed

Mel

I feel like saying a suspicion on Cait will get me screamed at and that's a gross feeling

yeah same

She has 3 votes

11:02 a.m.

I'm not defending her

She has 2

i feel like we should play the game when everyone calms down

I will hammer her if she gets to L -1

Lind and vee

Oh

it feels unplayable rn

Who unvoted lol

Me

lindauna

it feels unplayable rn

Why

i would unvote caitlin if thet changed their reqd on lind. How she played with lind at 7am est today was uncharitable

Omh

I just changed my vote

Nobody is even being unreasonable lol

Tommy2Hands

i would unvote caitlin if thet changed their reqd on lind. How she played with lind at 7am est today was uncharitable

You’re not voting cait

but im@frusterated cause idk if people are using the fight to hide rheir alingment but if not then its I who am being callous

Why

11:03 a.m.

Does

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Everyone

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Need

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To

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Say

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The

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Same

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Thing

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To

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Cait

and its unfair to everyone else bexause nobodt wants to fighjt and nobodys want to interact with it

11:03 a.m.

cause she keeps doing it

Your adding nothing just dogpiling on her lol

11:03 a.m.

Just vote her out

im adding my 2 cents

11:04 a.m.

you guys are annoying jesus

Jfc

11:04 a.m.

...

☆Princess Abigail☆

Cait

what did I say

11:04 a.m.

I think theyre town

11:04 a.m.

now

11:04 a.m.

Ily ice

11:04 a.m.

☆Princess Abigail☆

Nobody is even being unreasonable lol

:c

Zzz

I don't understand how telling someone who's clearly upset the same thing 5 more times

11:05 a.m.

Helps anyone

11:05 a.m.

Irregardless of her alignemt or mine

11:05 a.m.

You are just going to hurt her

11:06 a.m.

It doesn't need to be brought up 5 more times when we are past it

11:06 a.m.

Caitlin isn't even here

11:07 a.m.

Anyways

11:07 a.m.

Fuck it

☆Princess Abigail☆

You are just going to hurt her

stuff like this has no place in the game.

Caitlins AtE here is likely wolfy

Mel

I'm focusing on other things but I'd prefer Icet

Okay

☆Princess Abigail☆

Caitlins AtE here is likely wolfy

Really?

I want a vote count

Yes

11:08 a.m.

Let me explain

Danger?! Icet!

I want a vote count

Cait is top with 3 votes

There's a difference in how she attacks people when she's wolf vs when she's town

The rest i cba

Ngekop

Cait is top with 3 votes

ty

11:08 a.m.

ykw this game is really funny to me

11:08 a.m.

no offense

11:08 a.m.

its like

11:09 a.m.

having a towncore but except everyone in the towncore is a rabid dog going

Ftr abi

☆Princess Abigail☆

There's a difference in how she attacks people when she's wolf vs when she's town

ive never played with caitlin be4 so idk what this is i still think theyre town but ill respect ur read

You’re not a joke and that was just me defensively countering what you said of this game being a joke as a comment AFTER laughing at everything i kept saying taking it personal

Reason I agreed on voting IceT is because I think they only voted & unvoted me because I earlier townread them for re-evaluating ppl So I'm inclined to say they're just repeating that

There's a passion and an aggressionwhen she's town that is missing when she's town. She's much more engaged when she's town. I know that too you it felt aggressive but it was pretty kid gloves compared to what I've seen her do as town every single time. She will still get upset when she feels like she's being pushed incorrectly as wolf but she tries to make less waves. I think that's prevalent in how she treated you. It's still there the genuine emotion but it's muted.

Also fits in a team with Lindauna who is now voting me to ensure I go out instead of one of them

That is missing when she's wolf*

☆Princess Abigail☆

That's a lie I'm never confident on shit and I don't value my life irl at all lol betting my life means nothing

‘latable

☆Princess Abigail☆

There's a passion and an aggressionwhen she's town that is missing when she's town. She's much more engaged when she's town. I know that too you it felt aggressive but it was pretty kid gloves compared to what I've seen her do as town every single time. She will still get upset when she feels like she's being pushed incorrectly as wolf but she tries to make less waves. I think that's prevalent in how she treated you. It's still there the genuine emotion but it's muted.

So the fact I have some self control means I'm mafia? Got itttt

Ngekop

You’re not a joke and that was just me defensively countering what you said of this game being a joke as a comment AFTER laughing at everything i kept saying taking it personal

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148273773271855225 It wasn't about you but I'm sorry

11:12 a.m.

We good nge

11:12 a.m.

I love playing with you

Another + for me; who would my teammate even be?

Caitlin

Another + for me; who would my teammate even be?

Mel

Except when you get like that with me but game is passionate shit happens I get it

11:12 a.m.

It just upsets me in the moment

Ngekop

Mel

Why is Mel mafia

Danger?! Icet!

nge says thom is town abi says mel is town abi says vee is town ~~if theyre wrong its their fault not mines~~ ill trust their reads that brings us to cait / lind abi doesnt want cait dead D1 and ill respect it >>>> kill lind

why are you inheriting reads at tgis point?

I'm emotional

☆Princess Abigail☆

I love playing with you

Same but i am done with this game

Don't be

11:12 a.m.

Pls

Tommy2Hands

why are you inheriting reads at tgis point?

what odes that mean

Well i mean

11:13 a.m.

I already claimed

11:13 a.m.

Just bc of that

Your one of my only town reads lol

11:13 a.m.

I'm drowning

11:13 a.m.

Save me nge

Also @Mel When I asked Ngekop for his read on me yday I mainly asked to have a quick read on him The read he has on me usually is the opposite of the alignment he got

What do you think of what I said about the AtE

I know it’s true

I'm not the best at explaining my thoughts

11:14 a.m.

But

11:14 a.m.

Yeah

And the fact I'm tilted is why I wanted to avoid realtime interactions

11:15 a.m.

At times like this I'm much better doing work on my own >.>

So like

Danger?! Icet!

what odes that mean

you dont seem to have a real read on me you just got it from others

11:16 a.m.

based on that post

Ngekop

So like

What did you think of my accusation of Lindauna?

Caitlin

And the fact I'm tilted is why I wanted to avoid realtime interactions

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148275134034083883 I love you I'm sorry

It’s fair

Caitlin

Also @Mel When I asked Ngekop for his read on me yday I mainly asked to have a quick read on him The read he has on me usually is the opposite of the alignment he got

Not sure why you pinged me but very cool

im thinking we vote caitlin today

11:17 a.m.

scummy + unhelpful for town

Thom’s timings are just

Oof way to rub salt in the wound there thom

Smth else

❤️ you nge Love you Caitlin Adore you everyone else

Mel

Not sure why you pinged me but very cool

You said that was sus earlier in your catch up, that I asked Nge for his read on me

We got this

11:17 a.m.

Okay

Ngekop

Thom’s timings are just

Lmfao love we had the same response kinda

Caitlin

You said that was sus earlier in your catch up, that I asked Nge for his read on me

AH gotcha

11:18 a.m.

I see the relevance now

Tommy2Hands

scummy + unhelpful for town

I'm more helpful than you

no you arent

Cait please avoid insulting others

Thom literally

Thom please stop insulting others

Said it first

Neither is an insult

11:18 a.m.

Tbh

im not insulting here

Either way

11:18 a.m.

Be nice

11:19 a.m.

We gotta get back on track

look i cant like not engage with the game

We could get back on track

11:19 a.m.

If people would

11:19 a.m.

Leave Caitlin alone

i think this is the track

I was trying to get discussion going

She's getting to avoid tilt

And instead I got called unhelpful

we cant leave her alone she’s a big player here

And everyone keeps pressing her

Tommy2Hands

we cant leave her alone she’s a big player here

You don't have to leave her alone

guys we get it you dont like how you were treated and seen

With unhelpful comments

Just don't make comments that make people upset

nobody cares

I just won't talk with Thom

Vee can only be maf with 3 people

Thom

11:20 a.m.

Respectfully

Mel & Abbi

Stop lol

Once I flip green (obv you dont know this bla bla)

kkay ill stop

People should care

Who do you think the team is?

About other people's emotion

Im not saying people shouldnt care jesus

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148276394804125727 It's in not my town core love

you guys are always putting words in peoples mouths

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148276394804125727 It's in not my town core love

Who is there again I forgot

Caitlin

Who do you think the team is?

I mean I believe it's Icet

Mel

I mean I believe it's Icet

Same

i could see that

IceT/Lindauna is my solve rn

Lind Ice Thom if actually not mason...uh who else that's actually it

Vee/Thom comes to mind.

I think I town read everyone else beside you

what

Idt this will change the outcome but i retract my mason claim

why me

Vee before Thom imo

I'm willing to put weight into Abi's read on Vee for now. So it'd be Thom and Icet

I don't like the silent votes from Vee

id still preder to vote cait

Normally he is less.. like this

Caitlin

Who is there again I forgot

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148276526924701808 Vee Nge Luka Mel

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148276526924701808 Vee Nge Luka Mel

Okay

I dont tr mel

;-;

Ngekop

I dont tr mel

Figured with your vote babes

Also lol funny how I predicted Lindauna/Thom/IceT would all push me

Nge why do we never agree lol

11:22 a.m.

I love you

And they all next did

Be my main

11:23 a.m.

Mason

11:23 a.m.

Why is Mel wolf?

If we were masons together

11:23 a.m.

It’d be

11:23 a.m.

Really funny

11:23 a.m.

But like

Ngekop

I dont tr mel

I don't have good reasons to tr him but I def don't want Mel

☆Princess Abigail☆

Why is Mel wolf?

Good Q

Nah Nge and I are masons he's just distancing

icet isnt even voting you catlin

They did vote me earlier

I retracted my mason claim btw

theyre on the person you found scummy at the time

Fuck

lind

Nge why did you do that

Ngekop

I retracted my mason claim btw

Oh wtf

Sorry mel

11:23 a.m.

:/

Explain the read though

Tommy2Hands

you guys are always putting words in peoples mouths

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148276488144175105 My guy you quite literally said nobody cares Here https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148276269558009926

Mel

Nge why did you do that

Bc im not sure i want to just die now

yea not about peoples emotions

Ngekop

Bc im not sure i want to just die now

i meant the whole tging of you two endlessly compalining

11:24 a.m.

not iportant tho

11:24 a.m.

i gotta go

Ngekop

Bc im not sure i want to just die now

Wait but

Mel

I'm willing to put weight into Abi's read on Vee for now. So it'd be Thom and Icet

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148276733003436174 Can you explain why you're willing to trust me here?

How do you know it isn't setup a B setup?

Good question

Like shouldnt it be possible mafia saw through it

11:25 a.m.

Although

11:25 a.m.

I dont think this questioning is worth it considering another option

11:25 a.m.

So forget it

☆Princess Abigail☆

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148276733003436174 Can you explain why you're willing to trust me here?

It's a hypothetical. I think it's Cait/Icet if I'm being honest. Leading into the hypothetical I'm willing to just trust you for now. When it comes to it I'll be making my own judgements.

Mel

It's a hypothetical. I think it's Cait/Icet if I'm being honest. Leading into the hypothetical I'm willing to just trust you for now. When it comes to it I'll be making my own judgements.

Ah yes I have been pushing my teammate all day

Hmm

Cait+icet?

11:26 a.m.

What

11:26 a.m.

What

11:26 a.m.

Wht

Why Mel?

It isn't a team read, they're both just isolated reads

☆Princess Abigail☆

Why Mel?

What part?

11:27 a.m.

I believe I've been clear why I think of both

Cait Ice why?

Im ok with y’all

I don't disagree but how are they paired here?

Taking over

It isn't a paired read

D1 and d2

They're both isolated reads

Just to avoid like

So you think it's 1 or the other?

Yk

11:27 a.m.

Conflicts

Nge

11:27 a.m.

Pls

They're just my two stronger reads

Bc i just wont ever agree and i wont get my way

11:27 a.m.

Nonono

11:27 a.m.

It’s fine

Nge

11:27 a.m.

Pls

11:28 a.m.

Seriously

Also i probs still die tn

11:28 a.m.

Nono

11:28 a.m.

Heyyyyy

I want to play with you

11:28 a.m.

Pls

11:28 a.m.

Then signup for more games

11:28 a.m.

:)

We don't have to fight

I love playing with you

11:28 a.m.

So i’d love that

11:28 a.m.

This isnt bc of fight lmao

We don't see eye to eye but I want to work with you

Caitlin

Ah yes I have been pushing my teammate all day

I didn't know you've been pushing them

Just bc i’d like to reduce some stress in my day that wont change the outcome

I'll reconsider but I'm okay with either of you but as I said I prefer Icet by a large margin

I literally openly admit I haven't disagreed with you on Caitlin all game I've just been selfish

Caitlin and mel are not getting voted today

Why me?

11:29 a.m.

I haven't added much at all to the convo

Bc abi tr’s you

Lord abi

11:29 a.m.

I wrote an actual reason lol

And no one is bringing you up other than me

☆Princess Abigail☆

I wrote an actual reason lol

Yeah

I'll bring me up

I read it and i wont repeat it

People should trust me when I have actual reasons :p

guys I think Mel is wolf. Even Sam was voting Mel

Mel

I didn't know you've been pushing them

IceT has been my top SR for most of the day I did think IceT townslipped because I thought Ngekop was Mason but that wasnt strong and also a weak slip anyway And Lindauna's progression was bad a it shortly was Lindauna But now I think IceT is my top SR again due to the townslip now 100% being wrong

I think that came more from like

11:29 a.m.

A personal level

Ngekop

Caitlin and mel are not getting voted today

Abbi did vote me earlier

Rather than player wanting discussion to be focused on what it should

Caitlin

Abbi did vote me earlier

Yeah but just to kill you so people would stop repeating same stuff about you

Caitlin

IceT has been my top SR for most of the day I did think IceT townslipped because I thought Ngekop was Mason but that wasnt strong and also a weak slip anyway And Lindauna's progression was bad a it shortly was Lindauna But now I think IceT is my top SR again due to the townslip now 100% being wrong

I mean is it not common to FoS/Push scum for a day but switch off near end day

Also like

And I think its actually rlly obv that I'll go over today but oo

I’d feel like trash if you’re town

11:30 a.m.

And i make that vote

Mel

I mean is it not common to FoS/Push scum for a day but switch off near end day

Yes but you&d need the progression

I trust you're skilled enough to do just that

11:31 a.m.

You got p far in the champ

I didnt even get top 8 in the semi :/

But again, it it's a pairing.

11:31 a.m.

it isn't*

Caitlin

I didnt even get top 8 in the semi :/

You made it to semi's

Due to getting N1 killed

You

11:32 a.m.

Made

11:32 a.m.

It

11:32 a.m.

To

11:32 a.m.

Semis

Sigh

And got robbed in there ftr

Bitch let me compliment you

11:32 a.m.

I do appreciate the compliment >.>

:D

Ngekop

Yeah but just to kill you so people would stop repeating same stuff about you

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148278900196114605 That was... certainly part of it but not all of it. I think her emotional approach is in her scum range not her town range.

~~Ngekop's claim having been fake does make me sus him again as I rlly don't see the point of a Citizen doing this~~

Yeah that too

And it prob did give mafia lots of info on PRs now

11:35 a.m.

So I do see a mafia motive

why does mason fake a claim here

I'm zipping my mouth

Caitlin I stg stop trying to minimize your accomplishments You know as well as I that the votes in semi were awful lol you played amazing you pushed wisdom correctly you have semis Your am amazing mafia player. If you think I am than so are you we are the same player lol but your better.

But I also dont think Ngekop worden would risk that?

For this topic

lindauna

why does mason fake a claim here

Ngekop isn't mason

☆Princess Abigail☆

Caitlin I stg stop trying to minimize your accomplishments You know as well as I that the votes in semi were awful lol you played amazing you pushed wisdom correctly you have semis Your am amazing mafia player. If you think I am than so are you we are the same player lol but your better.

Damn straight!

He retracted it

oml

Except your accomplishments your bad ass

11:35 a.m.

I love you

Lindauna not knowing this prob slightly townie?

I am cop though

11:36 a.m.

If she's mafia her buddy would have told her

☆Princess Abigail☆

I am cop though

11:36 a.m.

Despite having claimed Citizen I'm actually Mason with Jalandh

11:39 a.m.

I've successfully hidden my pr

11:39 a.m.

I consider this a win

11:39 a.m.

Caitlin

Despite having claimed Citizen I'm actually Mason with Jalandh

have they even posted

11:40 a.m.

oh ur trolling

Ngekop did retract his claim tho

11:40 a.m.

He fakeclaimed Mason

I'm actually a JK.

i guess a cc would make a claim look scummy

Didn't u know?

I'm actually cult

11:41 a.m.

im actually alien

JK is 2 of the letters in my real name so clearly that's my role

Omg..

I'm culting Cait tonight

lindauna

im actually alien

Thats such an Arsonist claim

Meow

☆Princess Abigail☆

I'm culting Cait tonight

I hate evil roles but a team w you is always fun tbh

Caitlin

I hate evil roles but a team w you is always fun tbh

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148281835911118938 I actually really wanna wolf with you in a Mountainous... like...a lot

Hmmm that'd be fun

And I hate wolfing

Town >>>>> mafia

It is

Fun fact

11:43 a.m.

I'm not the top wagon right now

Hydra'ing with you as town Despite that being the worst game of all time Was the most fun I've had in mafia in a year ignoring all the drama and bullshit

11:44 a.m.

Even though I lost the game

11:44 a.m.

And was upset lol

~~I didnt have fun that game~~ But you improved it

Yeah

11:44 a.m.

Well

My day 4 was good tho!

People were getting awful to you

11:45 a.m.

Being *

11:45 a.m.

And I was being over overprotective girlfriend xD

☆Princess Abigail☆

And I was being over overprotective girlfriend xD

xD

11:45 a.m.

They were worse to you tbf

Yeah... that game sucked

Ngekop

Caitlin and mel are not getting voted today

why

~~But they usually confused us despite me signing my msges~~

I just loved being town with you and knowing it lol

Caitlin

Town >>>>> mafia

I love mafia more but i havent bene mafia in

☆Princess Abigail☆

I just loved being town with you and knowing it lol

True thats nice

Caitlin

~~But they usually confused us despite me signing my msges~~

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148282874894766142 ;-;

6 months not including tol games

I do practically know you are town tho

11:47 a.m.

TMI

Well you're obv town

Jkjk

Not TMI

You can't / s on discord

11:47 a.m.

That's annoying

Why not

It brings up commands

Oh true you can't /s

And at least in mobile it just auto fills them if you try to not use one

I am on mobile rn

Jfc I have 1200 posts

Look, obv town

☆Princess Abigail☆

And at least in mobile it just auto fills them if you try to not use one

At least on my phone shrugs

Odd

This might be the... first time in disc maf I actually have kept up with a game and high posted

Yea

/s.

Good job

11:50 a.m.

You are doing rlly good

Hey look I got it to work lol

It only makes me like you more

I'm not doing really good I'm a problem

Caitlin

It only makes me like you more

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148283991322017813 I love you so much your so sweet

whats this gotta do with the game

Thom is jealous

a little

11:51 a.m.

ngl

You will get a rlly good partner too sometime

Not everything needs to be game related

Not as cute as Abigail but nearly as

Sometimes fluff posting can fix thread vibes

11:52 a.m.

I do it a lot lol

Gtg

Imagine me on forum mafia with 500 posts where like 200 of them are just talking to people like it's a chat room

Abbi has your read on cait changed

That's how we mafia

Also I changed my mind ice is town

For anyone who reads this; If you don't wanna vote me, I suggest voting IceT or Lindauna

Danger!? Luka!

Abbi has your read on cait changed

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148284504096649256 I explained that it has been fake this whole time

11:53 a.m.

And that I just wanted to give her a d1 pass

I’d anybody at l-q

If you want me to find the post I will

L-1

☆Princess Abigail☆

If you want me to find the post I will

Yes please

☆Princess Abigail☆

Sometimes fluff posting can fix thread vibes

not from you two in this game imo

It's more detailed

Tommy2Hands

not from you two in this game imo

Abbi did like nothing wrong >.>

Tommy2Hands

not from you two in this game imo

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148284719360921702 Explain what about that conversation was a problem right now?

11:54 a.m.

That one

I have re-evaled

We were literally just talking

nah no point abu

cait's vote on me is opportunistic

luka

Honestly

11:54 a.m.

Do you have a problem with me?

no

11:54 a.m.

lol this is the type of stuff im trying to avoid

Well

11:55 a.m.

How are you avoiding it

11:55 a.m.

By

11:55 a.m.

Literally

I assume Thom has a problem with your bitchy girlfriend but she has to go and rlly isn't up to deal with this or being back to 3 votes

Shading me

its game relevant but im not gonna engage in it

11:55 a.m.

some of it is game relev

11:55 a.m.

not shre bout all

Caitlin

I assume Thom has a problem with your bitchy girlfriend but she has to go and rlly isn't up to deal with this or being back to 3 votes

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148285177781551194 Your not bitchy love...

Tommy2Hands

luka

?

Your amazing

Danger!? Luka!

?

sup dude

11:56 a.m.

been waiting for you

Hi

11:56 a.m.

Like Thom you say your trying to avoid this stuff but you literally just said that me and Cait talking was a problem

What do you need

I don't get it

I have a lot of things to do today so I won’t be able to play much mafia

I have a lot of issues with how you and abi played yea

11:57 a.m.

and cait

11:57 a.m.

i dont think more cait and abigail fluff will help the game

11:57 a.m.

we already have a lot

11:57 a.m.

and i dont think it improves rhe vibes

☆Princess Abigail☆

Hoping this doesn't void my request But I do want to say this mostly to Nge. The rest of town should here it as well I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW CAITLINS ALIGNMENT Cool. So. @Ngekop the reason I asked you to give Caitlin a d1 pass which you agreed to btw was because I actually wanted to play a mafia game with my girlfriend where she isn't killed day 1 or night 1. Is this selfish? Yes. Is it awful and anti town? No Because I know how busy she is irl and I know she can obv town herself when given time. Caitlin being upset and frustrated and defeated is NAI I wouldn't read into it at all. Caitlins emotional reaction to things is readable. It's not something I'm gonna give away the keys to the kingdom to say though. I just wanted to give Caitlin time while she got settled into uni on her first day and give her time so I could actually play with her. That's why I asked you to give her a D1 pass. That's why I promised to cop check her N1 That's why I continuously kept saying that there's probably one wrong in my town core. I said it was Luka as a reaction test cause Luka is fucking so obvious town and I wanted to see how people would react to that. I'm still not gonna vote Cait today I had an early town lean on her that went away based on how she was playing around me I talked about that earlier her read on me seemed to flip based on how I was reading her. I do actually think she looked better in the fight with Nge because I think Nges unwillingness to play ball and help a Caitlin who's very busy understand the logic behind the push on her is just anti town you can sum up your case to her it's not that big a deal but whatever. I don't think either side looked particularly amazing though. Cait is my blind spot I currently don't think she's been very towny. She wouldn't actually be in my town core if I wasn't trying to keep her alive. The rest of my town core is pure. Nge Vee Luka These people are bleeding town and should be hard protected. I say this with utmost confidence. The wolfs are in Ice Mel Cait Linduana Me Thom I think Mel's entrance is town as fuck I would add them to my town core. Meaning wolfs are in Me Cait Ice Linduana Thom. I'm honoring my agreement with Nge to not kill Thom I am pretty confident that if Nge is mason it's with Thom didn't really read if he said who it was with but I'm just gonna say it's obvious lol Cool. Cool. I'm out. Seriously don't kill my town core.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1147263254415020132/1148255062070661123 @Danger!? Luka! just read this

maybe for you it does but not for me

11:58 a.m.

but when you try and turn it to “oh you have an issue with me” its the same stuff as before. Taking stuff and interpretting it as a personal attack and derailing the thread

I wonder how many times I can cry in one game of mafia lol

thats what i got an issue with

That's fine

11:59 a.m.

Not gonna pretend like my emotions don't exist though

11:59 a.m.

That breeds anger

11:59 a.m.

I did that for a long time

I have no issues with anyone here

11:59 a.m.

i did with mel for a bit

Was not good

lol

Me and Caitlin talking

11:59 a.m.

Hurts nothing and nobody

11:59 a.m.

We aren't fighting

12:00 p.m.

We aren't causing drama

12:00 p.m.

We are talking

i think it hurts the game by clogging it up

12:00 p.m.

and not everyone can read you two the same

12:00 p.m.

for skmeone like lind this will ping her heavily but its hard to jnteract with it because you become so emotional

12:01 p.m.

“what youre saying i cant be nice to my GF in the game!?!”

Why would you read us off fluff I have 1000 non fluff posts and all it did was cause drama

12:01 p.m.

I'm trying

stuff like that

To have

12:01 p.m.

Some levity

wel it is is what it is

12:01 p.m.

you can do whatever

Can I though

12:01 p.m.

Because every time

Tommy2Hands

i think it hurts the game by clogging it up

Tbf thid argument is also clogging up the game

I try to do whatever

Just like. Drop it this is doing nothing

You make some snide remark

12:01 p.m.

Than say you're trying to avoid drama

Luka right here

When I ask why it needs to be said at all

Its cause i have emotions too

Okay well than how can you judge me for it

12:02 p.m.

Or Cait

im not judging you for emotions and im not sure why you want to continue tgis topic

...

ill try to keep what i say more relevant i guess

I don't care if you say what you feel

12:03 p.m.

I care that you paint me and Cait as the bad guys

This is so uncomfortable to watch To be clear I agree with abbi since like. This is silly but. Can we drop this

When we engage it

12:03 p.m.

I think you both think I'm upset but I'm like not

12:04 p.m.

I just want to understand

12:04 p.m.

And know what I'm doing wrong

you just said you were crying

Yeah I mean

12:04 p.m.

I cry a lot lol

same

Anyways thom your read on abbi is wrong they are. Obvious town

sasnt reading her maf

Tommy2Hands

why

Bc idt either is?

I'm emotionally immature by things I can't control and a girl ~~to clarify the hormones make me more emotional like that is actually a side effect of taking them I know not all girls are emotional~~

My periods are in the wrong places

I dont see votes piling on either

Tommy2Hands

sasnt reading her maf

Oh shrug

12:06 p.m.

Uh anywyas Nge / Abbi / Cait still town imo If there’s one wrong there it’s cait Ice lean town

Did you read my think Luka

Yes you called me obvious town Elesayaya

@Danger!? Luka!

12:07 p.m.

L -1

Oh no

Tell me if your not gonna hammer and I'll move before someone snipes it

I won’t hammer probably

ill hammer

Concerning

12:08 p.m.

Why Luka?

A: cait is offline. I don’t like hammering people who are offline B: I never intended to hammer to begin with. It was just to get town to be careful with votes

Concerning

12:09 p.m.

Well

12:09 p.m.

I will hammer

Ugh

If anyone else puts anyone at L - 1

12:09 p.m.

This is real

hello im back

I’ll hate myself

For this

12:09 p.m.

Hi back

12:09 p.m.

Oh i was doing it

im still kinda tired hope the drama is over and we can play the game

Shhh

12:09 p.m.

Sh

— EOD —

I hammered

Shhhhhhh

12:10 p.m.

I needed to do that

someone ping whoever is hosting

@Jal @IZinzanity

@IZinzanity @Jal

@Jal @IZinzanity

@Jal @IZinzanity Can you lock chats please

12:56 p.m.

@Mel

Locked

Hmm shoulda been locked, ty mel

Day 2

## Day ends 2023-09-07 2:00 p.m. or when majority has been reached with 4 votes

First

Second

Third

2:04 p.m.

LMFAOOOO

@Cops trackers JKs your checks are confirmed please soft

Why tf was vee killed

2:04 p.m.

2:05 p.m.

Pr read ofc but still

2:05 p.m.

Lmaooo

2:06 p.m.

Icet…

Ngekop

Why tf was vee killed

99% of mafia analyze the night kills

2:06 p.m.

Hi

Danger?! Icet!

99% of mafia analyze the night kills

Are you serious?

Ngekop

Are you serious?

Ur the 1%

@Alive Line NE unless you are cop/tracker on vee, you should out

I’m just gonna stick to my d1 reads and say it’s one of thom/icet

I'm the tracker. Luka visited Vee

Oop

Lmao

2:11 p.m.

Nice

2:11 p.m.

I knew thom was pr

Ez game

And wow

2:11 p.m.

Luka was my 3rd guess

2:12 p.m.

Mel 1st, vee 2nd, luka 3rd

2:12 p.m.

Btw luka cant claim anything else

2:12 p.m.

Bc im neighbor

2:12 p.m.

@Danger?! Icet! can confirm

Ok what

But wait I’m JK

Did Luka not rolecop

True

2:13 p.m.

Thom fakeclaimed

Mel

But wait I’m JK

Who did you jk

Jkjk

2:14 p.m.

Danger?! Icet!

Did Luka not rolecop

This is weird yes

2:14 p.m.

Icet

2:14 p.m.

You did receive a message

2:14 p.m.

Right?

2:15 p.m.

@Danger?! Icet!

2:15 p.m.

Of me neighbour

2:15 p.m.

Confirm it pls

2:15 p.m.

@Tommy2Hands

2:15 p.m.

Luka only visited vee?

2:18 p.m.

Where’s everyone

2:18 p.m.

Luka was my other pr read

2:18 p.m.

If thom wasnt

Yea

2:20 p.m.

I'm in class

2:20 p.m.

Sorry

2:20 p.m.

Why did thom delete their message

Tommy2Hands

I'm the tracker. Luka visited Vee

You’re stupid

2:22 p.m.

I’m jailkeep

2:22 p.m.

Why did you out

2:22 p.m.

Sorry for calling you stupid that was mean

2:23 p.m.

Wait nvm you’re stupid cuz you’re lying

2:23 p.m.

Either way still dumb here

2:23 p.m.

I actually jailkept thom they’re just dumb townie

Wait

Wait I can’t call people dumb that’s mean

Lmfao

2:23 p.m.

Ok cool

2:23 p.m.

Autowin

Dw thom you’re good jsut silly

I'm trolling nvm

Who cares

Ngekop

Who cares

True but doesn’t mean I can’t be spiteful

Danger!? Luka!

True but doesn’t mean I can’t be spiteful

You jailkeeping thom

2:24 p.m.

Was dumb but ok

2:24 p.m.

Thom was obv town

2:24 p.m.

So mel is last

2:24 p.m.

Ez

Kill lind

I

Jk mel

Cannot read thom

@Danger?! Icet! first of all

For the life of me Cuz they always play deranged

Hi

Confirm im neighbour

Danger?! Icet!

Yea

Yesh

Ok

2:25 p.m.

Good

2:25 p.m.

So

2:25 p.m.

Auto

2:25 p.m.

Win

2:25 p.m.

Literally we dont even have to think

Luka is LYING

Tommy2Hands

Luka is LYING

Dummy

Thom you are just gamethrowing atp

Thank you for carrying

lol

If you arent tracker shut up

2:25 p.m.

Im neighbour

alright alright

Ok ty

2:26 p.m.

Now fr

2:26 p.m.

Auto

I was gonna out anyways tbh so it didn’t matter but w/r

Win

W/E

2:26 p.m.

Kill mel ik lind blah blah blah

Jk lind

2:26 p.m.

Yep

2:26 p.m.

Jailkeep lindauna

2:26 p.m.

Confirm that @Danger!? Luka!

Danger!? Luka!

Kill mel ik lind blah blah blah

I said it here

2:27 p.m.

TwT

Also

2:27 p.m.

Skip night plz

Ok

2:28 p.m.

@Tommy2Hands vote mel

is maj 3?

No

lets wait to hear what they say guys

Dw

2:29 p.m.

Maj isnt 3

2:29 p.m.

It’s fine

2:29 p.m.

@Tommy2Hands maj isnt 3

Tommy2Hands

lets wait to hear what they say guys

Y

2:29 p.m.

Tbf actually sure we can wait

they could say something important

2:30 p.m.

also we need to wait for everyone to see if someone comes out as tracker

Mhm

2:30 p.m.

Still make it 3 pls

I'm tracker

Danger?! Icet!

I'm tracker

Bro

Mel visited ver

True

i dont trust icet

Tommy2Hands

i dont trust icet

I do

Thom pls just make it 3

2:31 p.m.

So that we can hammer as soon as lind/abi

2:31 p.m.

Confirm they are cits

why did icet not cc when i claimed

He is trolling bro

Tommy2Hands

i dont trust icet

On balls

whats the benefit to voting now as opposed to waiting?

Tommy2Hands

whats the benefit to voting now as opposed to waiting?

So that when they come in

2:31 p.m.

We can like

2:31 p.m.

Not stall

Tommy2Hands

whats the benefit to voting now as opposed to waiting?

I can join community game with Luka

2:32 p.m.

Thom maj isnt 3

2:32 p.m.

Maj is 4

i dont want day to end without me around

Bro

2:32 p.m.

Ok this guy wont

2:32 p.m.

Vote ever

2:33 p.m.

@lindauna

2:33 p.m.

Come pls

2:33 p.m.

@lindauna

2:33 p.m.

Thom it’s literally AUTOWIN

2:33 p.m.

whose the last?

2:33 p.m.

mel?

Given icet confirmed im neughbour

2:33 p.m.

If luka is fake he will be directly cc’d tomorrow and we will still have a ml by then

2:33 p.m.

So gg

well just ping me when others show up

If luka is real

ill hammer it

We just win

2:33 p.m.

Bc look

2:34 p.m.

Thom

2:34 p.m.

Look

2:34 p.m.

If luka is fake

2:34 p.m.

We’ll have a cc tomorrow

2:34 p.m.

With a ml

2:34 p.m.

So gg

2:34 p.m.

Now if like

I’m okay with going

2:35 p.m.

But like

Luka is jk

JK icet plz

Nah

2:35 p.m.

We jail lind

2:35 p.m.

It’s auto

2:35 p.m.

Mechanically bro

2:35 p.m.

MECHANICALLY

Nge

Alr scum should concede then

i think we need everyone to talk just to be safe

Imagine playing towny as a neighbour

im clear, luka is clear, thom is clear

Danger?! Icet!

Imagine playing towny as a neighbour

Best hiding

im queer

So what’s the possible evils

Play like cit

Playing scummy is way more funny

Mel

So what’s the possible evils

You/lind/abi/icet

you always play scummy icet

We lynch you and luka jails lind

So then it’s 50/50

Tommy2Hands

you always play scummy icet

False

If luka dies it’s abi/icet with a ml

2:36 p.m.

In 5 way

We have like

2:36 p.m.

4 confirmed town

2:36 p.m.

With 7

Yeah so this is a default win

Mhm

Ez

unless....

Luka confirmed he will jail lind

Tommy2Hands

unless....

Unless nothing broooo

What if scum no kills

They can't

Ah ic ic

Then we lynch lind

2:37 p.m.

And jail icet

dude scum should be able to no kill lol

If someone kills abi confirmed

2:37 p.m.

If not

2:37 p.m.

Then 5 way

Abi vs icet

these are all so town sided

Danger?! Icet!

They can't

They can attack lind

2:37 p.m.

So they can

2:37 p.m.

It just does nothing

^^

Danger!? Luka!

They can attack lind

Real

Can we not just humour me and vote icet now then

im down

If it’s a default W anyway

looks like this isnt as locked up as nge thinks it is

No

Tommy2Hands

looks like this isnt as locked up as nge thinks it is

Then vote mel

2:38 p.m.

Already

2:38 p.m.

Omfg

just be patient, we need to wait for the others

2:38 p.m.

especially abigail

We really don’t

her gf was mafia how will she react to that news

Dude

2:39 p.m.

It is

2:39 p.m.

Mechanical

Ffs

Autowin

2:39 p.m.

We dont need

2:39 p.m.

To wait

@Mel Can you self vote please

Carry me owo

Danger!? Luka!

@Mel Can you self vote please

Um

Erm

Ty

Awwwkwarrdd

@Alive Line NE skip the night, luka hc’s jailkeeper and will be on lind tn

think we're gonna lose here

I’m the one that denied night skip btw Comfycatsip

@Jal @IZinzanity

Mel

I’m the one that denied night skip btw Comfycatsip

Good then

Game isn’t pver btw

2:40 p.m.

Carry me owo

im broke

2:40 p.m.

lets start playing mafia games for money

Stop talking lol

-D2 End-

Day 3 Start

## Day 3 ends 2023-09-07 11:00 p.m. or when hammer has been reached with 4 votes.

so

11:16 p.m.

lindauna mafia right?

11:16 p.m.

her voting cait and cait casing her was bold ngl

Jal pinned a message to this channel. 2023-09-05 11:16 p.m.

I can talk

11:16 p.m.

That's cool

well abi

11:17 p.m.

we did it

11:17 p.m.

!

Hey remember when I said that Mel was town and my town core was pure?

☆Princess Abigail☆

Hey remember when I said that Mel was town and my town core was pure?

yes

11:17 p.m.

i mean

I didn't read anything

11:17 p.m.

So

they did kinda distance

I saw the flip and left lol

so like

Why did Mel die?

bc it is

11:17 p.m.

autowin

11:17 p.m.

you're cit, right?

11:18 p.m.

like it's mechanical autowin

11:18 p.m.

no cap

11:18 p.m.

that's why mel even selfed

Yeah though I don't think town should think that reasonably This is not me accusing you btw I just think my play around Cait should make me a target

you are

11:18 p.m.

the most obvious town

11:18 p.m.

in here

11:18 p.m.

lol

11:18 p.m.

anyways

11:18 p.m.

lindauna is kinda confirmed maf or we just move on to next

11:19 p.m.

but yeah

11:19 p.m.

@Danger!? Luka! jail icet if game keeps going

How lol I only voted Cait when she was L1 and I spent all day defending her til like it became apparent she was always dying

☆Princess Abigail☆

How lol I only voted Cait when she was L1 and I spent all day defending her til like it became apparent she was always dying

...

11:19 p.m.

idc about cait being mafia lol

11:19 p.m.

you were the main obstacle in getting her and right when i gave up on it

11:19 p.m.

you backed off too

Solve is defs Lind Ice in my head though so I'm fine just turboing them back to back

when you couldve made the lynch go anywhere ele

☆Princess Abigail☆

Solve is defs Lind Ice in my head though so I'm fine just turboing them back to back

yeah

11:20 p.m.

im neighbour

11:20 p.m.

thom was jailed n1

11:20 p.m.

luka is jailkeeper

11:20 p.m.

so indeed

11:20 p.m.

it's in you/icet/lind

I'd prefer to start with the one I've thought it was since D1 honestly

☆Princess Abigail☆

Hey remember when I said that Mel was town and my town core was pure?

but hey so was mine

11:20 p.m.

well

Which is Ice but I dunno if you still town read him so

assuming icet isnt maf

I will kill Lind first if needed

lindauna is maf imo lol

11:21 p.m.

also she was jailed last night

11:21 p.m.

and no one died so

11:21 p.m.

cait distanced well whoever the 2nd partner is

11:22 p.m.

but idk idt the partner should've voted her

11:22 p.m.

but w/e

11:22 p.m.

@Danger?! Icet! come pls

11:23 p.m.

mafia should just concede

11:23 p.m.

it's mechanical

11:23 p.m.

autowin

11:23 p.m.

like seriously mechanical

11:23 p.m.

and everyone knows it is

11:23 p.m.

and how/why

I'll follow you I think how Lind played around me as we reached EoD 1 was townier than anything Ice has done this game and I've really just thought Ice was mafia since D1 I voted Cait for you. Vote Ice for me? Give me this.

11:23 p.m.

If you vote Lind I follow

11:23 p.m.

But

11:23 p.m.

Think about it

i didnt vote cait hey

I know

11:24 p.m.

But you pushed her

(bc i wasnt given time)

And I stopped you

abi but

11:24 p.m.

icet nk'ing?

And I upset you just cause I was selfish

like him fr stalling this hard?

11:24 p.m.

bc no one died last night

11:24 p.m.

and lindauna was jailkept

Who died N1? Like I literally didn't read anything after I saw the flip

vee did

11:25 p.m.

vee died n1

11:25 p.m.

Oh nice lol

but hey! i did well my part of hiding as pr then lol

I'm 2 for 2 on my town core lol

☆Princess Abigail☆

I'm 2 for 2 on my town core lol

so am i

Yeah but your good

11:25 p.m.

And I'm not lol

☆Princess Abigail☆

I'm 2 for 2 on my town core lol

wasint i there?

Yeah

☆Princess Abigail☆

And I'm not lol

yes you are

11:26 p.m.

wasnt*

11:26 p.m.

ok then you are

11:26 p.m.

3/3

11:26 p.m.

and luka is also town so

11:26 p.m.

4/4

And I said if your actually neighbor it's with Thom and that Luka is town

11:26 p.m.

Victory me lol

well

11:26 p.m.

icet confirmed i neighboured him

Okay here's my thought Nge

n1

Valid lol

☆Princess Abigail☆

And I said if your actually neighbor it's with Thom and that Luka is town

wdym it's with thom

Nothing just

11:27 p.m.

Thought you would have used it on him and I was gonna clear him off that D1

11:27 p.m.

But

wut

Don't need to

he doesnt get cleared

Cause he got hailed

11:27 p.m.

Jailed

11:27 p.m.

Or whatever

if i neighbour him

Anyways

i just visit someone and inform them im town aligned

11:27 p.m.

lel

☆Princess Abigail☆

Anyways

whatever the vote is we need 4 votes

11:28 p.m.

lol

Full disclosure I got neighborizor and mason mixed up in my head

11:28 p.m.

Ignore me

11:28 p.m.

Anyways

uh

Thought process lol

neither is neighbour he

11:28 p.m.

heh*

11:28 p.m.

but yeah

11:28 p.m.

anyways i fakeclaimed mason

11:28 p.m.

bc

I'm confused

i knew we were in setup B

Let me get this out I have adhd

and masons can only roll in A and C

11:29 p.m.

so i planned on confusing mafia with that

11:29 p.m.

thinking i was baiting a kill

11:29 p.m.

and hey it worked!

Ngekop

Mel/cait/lind/vee

hey look!

Eh nvm it's a stupid thought

if lind is maf

11:31 p.m.

i also got 4/4 in towns

11:31 p.m.

if not then lel

11:31 p.m.

i still dont think cait and icet are teamed lol

11:32 p.m.

but we'll see

How many mistakes can we make?

it's

11:32 p.m.

autowin

11:32 p.m.

lol

11:32 p.m.

we can't lose

11:32 p.m.

even if you're maf we can't lose

Mafia should honestly just white flag than

ik

Why aren't they

which is why i think it's lindauna

11:32 p.m.

bc icet was here

11:32 p.m.

when i explained everything

11:33 p.m.

and he even complained

Complained how?

about this taking longer than needed

11:33 p.m.

bc he wants this to end so he can signup for co12

11:33 p.m.

like

Cool let's kill Lind then

Why tf was Mel voted bro

11:33 p.m.

No

lindauna

11:33 p.m.

it's autowin

I didn’t speak for a day because I was asleep

what's your role

It’s def Abigail

Tbf Lind

Im town

11:33 p.m.

I said

11:33 p.m.

From day 1

what's your role

11:33 p.m.

cit?

Cait and abigail

11:34 p.m.

Citizen

ok

11:34 p.m.

we have

11:34 p.m.

autowin

I will hammer myself if you kill Ice for me lol

mechanically

☆Princess Abigail☆

I will hammer myself if you kill Ice for me lol

omfg

11:34 p.m.

it's lindauna

Caitlin pushed ice

11:34 p.m.

On day 1

exactly

Then me

Yes and?

ok nvm idk

And then the weird drama

idrc

11:34 p.m.

we just need

11:34 p.m.

luka and icet and thom here

wait so

11:35 p.m.

Did masons claim

@Danger!? Luka! @Danger?! Icet! @Tommy2Hands

lindauna

Did masons claim

no masons

11:35 p.m.

in this setup

11:35 p.m.

ok wow

11:35 p.m.

is it icet fr

11:35 p.m.

wait huh

im neighbour

Did Caitlin buss IceT on day 1

luka is jailkeeper

Okay nge wanna here my dumb thought?

11:35 p.m.

Hear*

ok no need for me to like

11:35 p.m.

beat myself over

11:35 p.m.

autowin

11:35 p.m.

whoever it is will get lynched

im thinking its

ok so

abigail here

Anyone

omfg

11:36 p.m.

what

Tommy2Hands

abigail here

Agree

11:36 p.m.

lol

i dont agree

We have enough people

but hey look

who is it luka

the way they defended each other on day 1

@Danger!? Luka!

Was def weird

HAMMER ME KILL ICE

abi

11:36 p.m.

listen

lol luka caitlin again no way

no

I think it’s between ice and abi

im not hammering until luka comes in

wait wait wait

Tommy2Hands

lol luka caitlin again no way

bro

11:36 p.m.

LUKA IS

11:36 p.m.

GJ

dont hammer anything

JK*

is that confirmed?

YES

Ngekop

no

End the game man just hammer me and end the paranoia pls

bc im neighbouor

I hard claim mafia

there is guaranteed

End the game

oh ok

look man my skills r in the scum hunting department not the memory department

Pls

well played abi

I want out

then

11:37 p.m.

except on pr hunting ig

I was gonna bait you by not night killing

Danger!? Luka!

Uh anywyas Nge / Abbi / Cait still town imo If there’s one wrong there it’s cait Ice lean town

I don’t think this analysis is genuine

11:37 p.m.

but that aside

☆Princess Abigail☆

I was gonna bait you by not night killing

bait me?

And having you keep jailing other people

i mean it was auto lol

11:37 p.m.

uh

lol

I didn't do the math

just in case ig

I mean

abigail could be throwering

If abi is mafia

11:37 p.m.

We just win

@Danger!? Luka! jail icet

You hammered before I even checked the thread lol

wait nobody died that means.....

I thought I could win

11:38 p.m.

I can't

11:38 p.m.

So just hammer me

abi

I told u it’s Abigail

your d1

11:38 p.m.

was

And Cait

insane

Lol

Vote me Tom

it was

Thom

So bad

abi even if you're mafia you can still reform and become a good town member

she was so towny looool

Ily

I was on these two from d1

we can keep the game going forever

Ngekop

she was so towny looool

Nah

you dont have to die

Hey Thom

thom omfg

I wanna say

Tell me before you do it

Aggression isn’t a town tell

11:38 p.m.

Because

i refuse to hammer

So I can send a lady will

Town aggression is directed into a solve

And testament

a lady will?

11:39 p.m.

tf is that

@Danger!? Luka! just in case jail icet blah blah blah

If you’re capable of being aggressive as town it’s within ur wolfrange as scum

Yo

(yes icet over lind)

a will only women get?

I want the game over

abi

Like

Pls stop dragging it

your d1 was

Out

insane

Lemme just state something lol

11:39 p.m.

It was bad

i dont think abi is mafia here

Her interactions with Cait sold them out

i think its icet

why didnt you keep defending cait tho

Thom

11:39 p.m.

My guy

Idt

Tommy2Hands

i dont think abi is mafia here

BRO

11:39 p.m.

IT'S

11:39 p.m.

AUTO

11:39 p.m.

WIN

Hammer me

SHES MAFIA

11:39 p.m.

LOL

trust me guys

VOTE HER BRO

WE CANT LOSE EVEN IF SHE IS TOWN

its my way or the highway

SHE IS SCUM

@Danger!? Luka! JAILKEEP ICET

THOM

Hammer

11:39 p.m.

Me

U HIGH

Pls

alright alright

11:40 p.m.

jesus

THOM BRO IT'S AUTO

11:40 p.m.

GOD

Kill Ice tomorrow

abi threw the moment she directed all her aggression into ppl who hesitated or made scumread

11:40 p.m.

lol

☆Princess Abigail☆

Kill Ice tomorrow

??

see she isnt even maf

11:40 p.m.

you guys suck at this

are u mafia

now we gotta wait another 24 hours

or

11:40 p.m.

just

What why aren’t we voting Lind there was no kills

just let me decide who we lynch, i havent been wrong on scum in like 4 days now

JAIL

11:40 p.m.

ICET

11:40 p.m.

LUKA

11:40 p.m.

ICET

11:40 p.m.

NOT LIND

11:40 p.m.

JAIL ICET

Luka could be scum ftr

Hammer happened shh

so

lindauna

Luka could be scum ftr

No

I think

I cannot

OH HE VOTED

11:41 p.m.

shhhhhh

11:41 p.m.

shhhhhhhhh

11:41 p.m.

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

That's eod

stop talking

so like

1:04 p.m.

who was jailed

You or icet fs

1:11 p.m.

@Danger!? Luka!

1:15 p.m.

Sigh is icet maf

1:21 p.m.

Lol at me neighbouring mafia

1:21 p.m.

N1

1:22 p.m.

If it helps it wasnt my strongest tr + it was someone i knew wouldnt die

1:22 p.m.

But still lol

1:22 p.m.

Probs my top tr after abi given the cait flip

I guess

1:24 p.m.

it’s just icet

I mean it’s you or icet

1:25 p.m.

Im confirmed neighbour

vote icet jail me

1:26 p.m.

if ur still worried

I was never worried lol

1:26 p.m.

It was auto since d2

yeah

1:26 p.m.

i don’t think I’ve been active this game bc it progressed while I was asleep

But yeah like mechanically speaking

so I only rlly spoke d1

1:27 p.m.

uh anyway lockwin here

Me/luka/thom

we just vote IceT

Are confirmed town

1:27 p.m.

Ig

how was Thom conf mechanically

Luka jailed him n1

1:27 p.m.

And vee died

ah kill went through

Yep

ur neighbour

Mhm

and luka jk

And luka is jailkeeper

1:28 p.m.

Yep

1:28 p.m.

We literally could lynch me and still win

@Danger!? Luka! @Tommy2Hands vote IceT we win gn

I will when they do

lindauna

@Danger!? Luka! @Tommy2Hands vote IceT we win gn

What timezone are you on btw

I think I would’ve contributed more if like timezones were better lol

1:29 p.m.

GMT +8

Uh

1:29 p.m.

What’s that

1:29 p.m.

(What’s the time)

12 hours difference from EST

Omfg

1:29 p.m.

Loool

yeahhh

So it’s 1:30am for you

yeah

1:29 p.m.

Lol

Ok yeah that is

1:29 p.m.

Really not convenient

Kinda explains my periods of inactivity yeah

Hmm

I didn’t even get to talk d2 I think

Yeah sorry

y’all hammered before I woke up

It was already auto

lol it’s fine

1:30 p.m.

yeah

1:30 p.m.

agree

Ok cool

1:30 p.m.

You’re town bc you’d be really mean to slowroll this 8 more hours

wait so

Not really mean but

1:30 p.m.

Lowkey annoying

isn’t there mafia roleblocker

No

in this setup

1:31 p.m.

oh

It’s rolecop

ohhhhhhhh

1:31 p.m.

ok adds up I was like

1:31 p.m.

why didn’t they rb the jk and kill

Lol

1:31 p.m.

Ic

im dyslexic charts are painful to read

1:31 p.m.

anyway

Oh F

1:32 p.m.

:(

ig we can j end

Yeah as soon as

i can read

Someone else comes in

I just

Maj is 3

mix it up

1:32 p.m.

yeah

1:32 p.m.

under

1:32 p.m.

understandable

@Danger!? Luka! hi

1:40 p.m.

@Danger?! Icet! YOU ARE ONLINE HI

can u vote self bc ur dying anyway

No why

1:45 p.m.

I don't want to drag this on

1:45 p.m.

It's auto

Not this

‍♂️

1:45 p.m.

Whoever is mafia just give up

1:45 p.m.

Omfg

Abi exe was stupid wtf why didn't you exe lind when they were jked

1:46 p.m.

I have words

Danger?! Icet!

Abi exe was stupid wtf why didn't you exe lind when they were jked

Bc she claimed mafia

1:46 p.m.

Like hard claimed

Ngekop

Bc she claimed mafia

Fair

1:46 p.m.

Wowee

I wanted to lynch lindauna

Should've speedhammered Lind

Or you so we couldve nightskipped fast and win

1:46 p.m.

Btw icet

1:47 p.m.

Do you know where’s luka

Idk

@Danger!? Luka! can you come pls

1:48 p.m.

Icet js

1:48 p.m.

We are 5 alive

1:48 p.m.

Thom is cleared bc jailed n1

1:49 p.m.

Luka jailkeeper

1:49 p.m.

Im neighbour

1:49 p.m.

It’s fr you vs lind with a mislynch

if I was scum I would not have pushed Caitlin out

1:50 p.m.

at a point no one else was on their case

1:50 p.m.

ftr

1:50 p.m.

I said from the start I didn’t like their interactions and voting them gives info

@Danger!? Luka! pls

i mean idc vote me first if u want it’s a lock win but icet is just lock scum

If not im just pinging thom

@Tommy2Hands

And make him vote someone

lindauna

if I was scum I would not have pushed Caitlin out

Me 2 bestie

And i follow

vote icet win this game 1 hour soone

1:51 p.m.

sooner

stfu

nah Cait tried to tunnel me out to a point I wasn’t playing the game bc of how messy it got

Thom it’s auto between these two

we could have won this game 48 hours ago if you impatient fucks wouldve waited

Just vote whoever

ok we can win now

Tommy2Hands

we could have won this game 48 hours ago if you impatient fucks wouldve waited

And no

vote whoever skip night

1:53 p.m.

we have 3 clears in a 5p with 1 scum

48h ago d1 wasnt even over was it?

1:53 p.m.

Lol

1:53 p.m.

^^

Thom who do you think it is

@Tommy2Hands vote someone pls

1:53 p.m.

And skip night

shut up guys

1:53 p.m.

seriously

1:54 p.m.

im reading

it doesn’t even matter it’s a lockwin

Why are you reading

vote whoever

1:54 p.m.

we still win

1:54 p.m.

skip night

Danger?! Icet!

Thom who do you think it is

Ok so it’s you

1:54 p.m.

Got it

I'm asking Thom not you

why are we arguing

1:54 p.m.

it doesn’t matter

1:54 p.m.

Poe is u and me

lindauna

why are we arguing

Bc thom is “reading”

zzz

Lindauna

@Tommy2Hands can we win yet

1:55 p.m.

pls

Nge

Sup

Ur trolling

Finally

1:55 p.m.

Luka

Kill lind jail ice

hammer pls

Why did you delay day

1:55 p.m.

Or the other way round

Lika

Lind was jailkept twice

Luka

1:56 p.m.

Who did you jail

im town

Last night

Danger?! Icet!

Lind was jailkept twice

No they weren’t

What

he said this yesterday

LOL

Icet was jailed last night

1:56 p.m.

Ywp

1:56 p.m.

Yep

Ngekop

Who did you jail

Legit doenst matter go ice / lind b2b we win

ok

Ok

Why did you jail me

Danger!? Luka!

Legit doenst matter go ice / lind b2b we win

Just hammer

1:56 p.m.

Tbh

Danger!? Luka!

Legit doenst matter go ice / lind b2b we win

Im just curious

Danger?! Icet!

Why did you jail me

Nge pinged me 69^1000 times

Danger?! Icet!

Why did you jail me

He was told to

To jail you

^^

Nge has skill issue

either way no nk one of us is scum

It

vote whoever

Doesnt

1:56 p.m.

Fking

1:56 p.m.

Matter

I’ll even hammer self

1:56 p.m.

We win

1:56 p.m.

Lol

dont hammer guys

1:56 p.m.

stop hammering self

@Danger!? Luka! vote someone

you are all so bad

1:56 p.m.

its insane

dude

1:57 p.m.

I wanna finish this game

1:57 p.m.

pls

It’s

1:57 p.m.

AUTO

idc

WIN

if we vote icet here

i want to WIN this game

we win

This is

WE WIN NO MATTER WHAT

A waste of time

Tommy2Hands

i want to WIN this game

It is auto

luka

Luka exactly

It is an auto win

Vote someone

Pls vote one

Whoever

Yeah

1:57 p.m.

Im

if it was auto then maf would forfeit

Done

Idgaf who

Tommy2Hands

if it was auto then maf would forfeit

Oke would think so

same I can hammer self

Tommy2Hands

if it was auto then maf would forfeit

Thy are lying on me throwing

Which is what makes it more annoying

ok

1:57 p.m.

bye

1:57 p.m.

kill me

1:57 p.m.

kill lind tmrw

@Ngekop vote

Relying

Eod

@Newcomer Game Host

wheh was luka even confirmed

gammer

1:57 p.m.

hammer

i cant remember

@IZinzanity

gn

shhhhhh

1:58 p.m.

Go to sleeeep townnn

3/4 of them dont sleep

Sh

2:05 p.m.

Finally

2:05 p.m.

@Danger?! Icet! so you killed lindauna n2?

yup

To frame her

2:05 p.m.

Ok but

2:05 p.m.

Why stalling

2:05 p.m.

Autowin

2:05 p.m.

GG

I had an entire plan in mafia chat

Thanks for the carry

this was winnable

It was auto

2:06 p.m.

Well played the distancing ig

Ngekop

It was auto

nonono this was the plan

2:06 p.m.

snipe Tracker / JK N2 and pray it was a FN setup

2:06 p.m.

N1*

2:06 p.m.

that failed

Yeah i know that

plan 2 was misexe mel >>> kill lind (frames lind as mafia being RBed) >>> act more towny then abi >>> exe lind >>> luka jails abi and I kill Luka >>> win the f4 against abi

But by d2 it was auto

Danger?! Icet!

plan 2 was misexe mel >>> kill lind (frames lind as mafia being RBed) >>> act more towny then abi >>> exe lind >>> luka jails abi and I kill Luka >>> win the f4 against abi

this was with the confusion that Mafia wouldnt NK Lind at night so Luka doesnt say who they JK

2:07 p.m.

plan 3 was

Danger?! Icet!

plan 2 was misexe mel >>> kill lind (frames lind as mafia being RBed) >>> act more towny then abi >>> exe lind >>> luka jails abi and I kill Luka >>> win the f4 against abi

How do you win vs abi

misexe lind

When abi would be conf town

2:08 p.m.

Bc she would be jailed by luka

Ngekop

When abi would be conf town

luka wouldnt say their JK

2:08 p.m.

from the confusion that it would 100% be lind as mafia doesnt NK there

Uh

you see

I think we always announce the jail

it was a strech

Just in case

2:08 p.m.

Honestly

isosk plan 3 was misexe lind

2:08 p.m.

cc JK

2:09 p.m.

thom votes with me

2:09 p.m.

win RNG exe and luka is exed

2:09 p.m.

live to f2

This game makes me want to remove this setup from being a newcomer setup

why

2:09 p.m.

super town sided if a mafia flips D1 but its for newcomers

A possible autowin from a D1 elim is kinda messed up

True

Mel

A possible autowin from a D1 elim is kinda messed up

I mean

2:11 p.m.

Mafia lynched d1 + citizen killed n1 + jailkeeper on citizen

It's still a thing

But like i mean

2:12 p.m.

Maf lynched and the other jailed next night

2:12 p.m.

Is always auto

2:12 p.m.

Lol

It wasn't even auto if they were jailed the next night

2:12 p.m.

It was straight auto nmw

No lol

2:12 p.m.

It required jailkeeper to be on a citizen who wouldnt die

2:12 p.m.

And mafia to miss the pr

My point still stands

Well i mean

2:13 p.m.

Then 2d3 and matrix6

2:13 p.m.

Also can get autowin d2 with a d1 lynch

2:13 p.m.

On maf

finally

2:14 p.m.

holy fuck

2:14 p.m.

@Tommy2Hands

Ikr

this is why u vote in a lockwin

Danger?! Icet!

plan 2 was misexe mel >>> kill lind (frames lind as mafia being RBed) >>> act more towny then abi >>> exe lind >>> luka jails abi and I kill Luka >>> win the f4 against abi

I would’ve spoken for Mel

Ok

They called out Cait

2:14 p.m.

like

Anyways

hard

I would have been spoken for fr fr

they begun the traction

Suggestions for improvement

it was kinda a lockwin anyway

lindauna

They called out Cait

What

2:15 p.m.

Mel barely even

2:15 p.m.

Said smth about cait

lindauna

I would’ve spoken for Mel

Actually I wanted to misexe you but Mel got exed instead

'scuse me

Wowee

Mel was the first to rlly say aggression =/= town

2:15 p.m.

btw

I was like the one who pushed cait the most before?

I very much did but ok ok

Mel

I very much did but ok ok

Yeah but not main

it wasn u who pushed the most it was Mel who made me reevaluate my read

She didn't say main

You were more on icet

2:15 p.m.

Than on cait

Oh she did mean most

2:16 p.m.

oop

I think Mel rlly changed my perspective there when we were all hung up over the argument of

2:16 p.m.

whether emotions rising were town or scum

That makes me feel good :)

I was like the main push on cait lmao

i hard tred Mel and nge

2:16 p.m.

yeah but u also got caught up in a rlly dumb argument

2:16 p.m.

which I didn’t wanna engage with

Who is the madlad TP that hardcarried

Not really, i called out the odd progression on abi

Lune, The Comfy Camper

Who is the madlad TP that hardcarried

??

2:17 p.m.

What

Or did maf not kill

He's getting HoF

Neither

Ready I think

I was making a case for like

@Lune, The Comfy Camper I got hof issokay

It was auto d2

2:17 p.m.

Lune

Mel

@Lune, The Comfy Camper I got hof issokay

How aggression isn’t scum, Caitlin’s response to pressure and the basis of their read being

lindauna

How aggression isn’t scum, Caitlin’s response to pressure and the basis of their read being

And who made her get pressured

2:17 p.m.

I wonder

They assumed that I was hedging when rlly I was re evaluating my reads in the thread after being afk for 6 hours

Why did nge Luka tr me

u and Caitlin had pressure but it went oog and got personal

2:18 p.m.

so I ignored it

I'm rlly curious

Well that’s you lol

I feel like personal stuff has no role in a game and I didn’t feel like engaging there and I just stayed on my sr

Danger?! Icet!

Why did nge Luka tr me

I couldnt team you with anyone

distancing is a thing

I know

Ok Ty

But they voted each other in compromising situations

2:19 p.m.

Lol

it was not compromising at start of day

Well i know

2:19 p.m.

That

The setup was Luka as JK yes?

yes

Yes

Holy shit i won

No me

Toof (Sam)

Holy shit i won

No

No u

L

Crying

I didn’t even get to present my case bc I was so tired of the emotional back and forth in chat

2:20 p.m.

I feel like that shouldn’t happen in a game

Apparently it was better for me

2:20 p.m.

To just afk and let town win

2:20 p.m.

Damn

True

lindauna

I feel like that shouldn’t happen in a game

That kinda helped solve the game so

2:20 p.m.

And cait and i are not upset at each other

lindauna

I didn’t even get to present my case bc I was so tired of the emotional back and forth in chat

Oh yeah

2:20 p.m.

That was like

2:20 p.m.

Super weird to play against

lindauna

I feel like that shouldn’t happen in a game

It really shouldn't

2:21 p.m.

It made it uncomfortable for me to keep going tbh

With abi it went a bit far but like she acknowledgedly said she was like

if you guys would have let me decide day 2 we wouldve hit IceT

2:21 p.m.

then

I am not talking abt ur personal relationship with Caitlin im talking about how bringing up personal relationships into a game of mafia

Just wanting to keep cait alive

was not good for the health of the game

Tommy2Hands

if you guys would have let me decide day 2 we wouldve hit IceT

Same

and made it super awkward for everyone else

2:21 p.m.

agree

lindauna

I am not talking abt ur personal relationship with Caitlin im talking about how bringing up personal relationships into a game of mafia

What do i have to do with that

I was asleep d2

2:22 p.m.

there was some weird back and forth between nge abi and cait

well i guess

2:22 p.m.

we maybe wouldve done mel -> icet

Tommy2Hands

if you guys would have let me decide day 2 we wouldve hit IceT

Why do you insist on thinking

2:22 p.m.

Just lynch and skip

its easier to think

2:22 p.m.

and nobody was skipping

Tommy2Hands

we maybe wouldve done mel -> icet

We wouldve done that

i mean we kinda won anyway it didn’t matter too much

If abi didnt like

2:22 p.m.

Hard claim mafia

Mel was a hard town for me

there is no reason to make the wrong moves 2 times in a row

Idk why

2:22 p.m.

we did that

2:22 p.m.

LOL

we couldve just made the right choice the first time

Mel was my second biggest tr here

Why does it

2:22 p.m.

Even matter

2:22 p.m.

Also it was autowin so like

optimal play matters in games where it’s not an autowin

cause you guys keep stressing time

2:23 p.m.

and its obvious which way is quicker

But this time it was

I feel like I didn’t even get to present my cases here

2:23 p.m.

lol

Ngekop

Also it was autowin so like

Auto win as long as Luka followed the plan

But there was no need

this was like my first game here

Jal

Auto win as long as Luka followed the plan

Which i know he would

2:23 p.m.

Bc he is

2:23 p.m.

Not a thrower or clumsy enough to not do that

its also easier to solve when the info is more fresh

I'm still not joining co

@Mel srry if I was around I would’ve pushed IceT more

Not co

2:24 p.m.

Sp

like idk why they were pushed

2:24 p.m.

at all

Wait no it's co

Oh nah you're good, I didn't really have too much on them all things considered

I had nge Mel as hard town thom as probs town

I had abi locktown

2:25 p.m.

I didnt care outside of that

yea if we followed each others Poe

2:25 p.m.

we’d win d2

2:25 p.m.

with lukas claim

2:25 p.m.

lol

Or

2:25 p.m.

We couldve just

IceT is outside everyone’s trs

Not think at all

2:25 p.m.

And go ahead

ig it’s rlly a matter of how u approach the game

2:26 p.m.

I’d take a perfect win over a Poe win

2:26 p.m.

but

Nge we know it was auto. But voting out wolves and pure sweeping would have been perfect

Yeah I agree

True

my best win was uh

Mel

Nge we know it was auto. But voting out wolves and pure sweeping would have been perfect

It wasnt happening either way

2:26 p.m.

Luka tr’d icet

2:26 p.m.

D2

8ball where both my 8balls were voted out

Luka didn't jail me n1 skill issue

So it indeed wasnt happening

I didn’t get to speak D2

2:26 p.m.

btw

Ik

2:26 p.m.

Neither did abi

Ngekop

Luka tr’d icet

You don't know that, the vote was sped through

Yeah

Mel

You don't know that, the vote was sped through

I do bc luka was there

On d2 idt it should’ve been hammer

2:27 p.m.

risky without a pool of clears

Ngekop

I do bc luka was there

I replied to the wrong one

He said you or lind, he tr’d icet

scum would kill the clears

2:27 p.m.

why was there a d2 hammer lol if I was scum I’d kill luka

2:27 p.m.

because jk

lindauna

risky without a pool of clears

If you or abi claimed pr’s

2:27 p.m.

It was auto between whoever claimed and luka

u were the pr u knew this

But i was confirmed pr

no one is gonna cc an unknown

To everyone

yeah

2:28 p.m.

like

I was confirmed neighbour

2:28 p.m.

Bc i neighboured icet

mafia does not cc two roles that can be mechanically conf

And he confirmed that

yeah

lindauna

mafia does not cc two roles that can be mechanically conf

Exactly

2:28 p.m.

So yeah still autowin

it was like solved on d2 if we spoke

2:29 p.m.

thom had a point

2:29 p.m.

but like when we’re at d4

I still dont think it wouldve

just speed it lol

I dont see luka or me

2:29 p.m.

Voting icet d2

Mel

This game makes me want to remove this setup from being a newcomer setup

This specific set up is rough. And idk how to fix it either lmao

And we were the pr’s

I also feel like you didn’t look into the intentions behind the stuff we did which was a hinderance

2:29 p.m.

Mel clearly intended to refocus the discussion

Well

2:30 p.m.

When i “claimed mason”

I clearly was reevaluating my reads and got sred for inconsistency which if you followed my process made sense

2:30 p.m.

Like

And said i wasnt paying attention from then on

2:30 p.m.

I just meant it lol

I feel like there were so many towntells

2:30 p.m.

and I explained my process

2:30 p.m.

And no one listened when Caitlin led a wagon on me and that was frustrating

2:31 p.m.

because emotions came into play and I don’t wanna deal w that lol

2:31 p.m.

idk

Town was winning nmw

most communities I know don’t allow this

Regardless

i mean yeah but it was

2:31 p.m.

a very frustrating game

Cait/icet main wagons d1

for many reasons

And neither pr was pr read

why was I the third wagon xddd

2:31 p.m.

it felt like people voted me because otherwise they get screamed at (edited)

lindauna

and I explained my process

You did

2:32 p.m.

You felt really towny to me but i stopped caring

lindauna

it felt like people voted me because otherwise they get screamed at (edited)

Literally

lindauna

why was I the third wagon xddd

?

I felt the freedom I had to play was pretty much gone, felt it almost immediately upon replacement

Idts

2:32 p.m.

It was 5-3

Caitlin was very opportunistic to jump on everyone who reevaluated their reads and for the whole thread to essentially listen to whoever screamed the loudest it was super demotivating and I just stopped responding

Fun game

Danger?! Icet!

Fun game

Mhm

Idk I feel like a lot of things happened here that won’t happen in a normal game

lindauna

Idk I feel like a lot of things happened here that won’t happen in a normal game

Yes

tldr personal feelings should never be brought into a game

Well

and like I think a lot of ppl stopped trying or felt demotivated as a result

2:34 p.m.

which affected play

2:34 p.m.

I don’t blame any one person specifically and I don’t hold it against anyone

2:35 p.m.

I just think we all could’ve had a better day 1

Idk

2:35 p.m.

Lynching cait d1

2:35 p.m.

Will never be easy

2:35 p.m.

Lol

it’s not hard

2:35 p.m.

aggression doesn’t exist in a vacuum the goal is to determine why she was aggressive and the direction like

It clearly was when i pushed as hard as i could and did call out the one thing she did wrong at the time

2:36 p.m.

And didnt get votes on

lindauna

aggression doesn’t exist in a vacuum the goal is to determine why she was aggressive and the direction like

Well yeah

it was not towny of her to omgus and use the basis of her read as I always omgus

2:36 p.m.

i think

2:36 p.m.

we all

2:36 p.m.

sred her

That is

2:36 p.m.

Smth

2:36 p.m.

I said

2:36 p.m.

Like 3 times

but felt like we’d be yelled at if we voted her

And that also got ignored

lindauna

but felt like we’d be yelled at if we voted her

This is my issue

Ftr

i think u played well I just think getting into a personal argument within the game affected ur game

Ngekop

Exactly

.

Ngekop

Hence you enforced it here bc in this particular case if you genuinely had me as town it wouldnt be what happens just bc i consider you being maf bc i wasnt even tunneling

.

lindauna

i think u played well I just think getting into a personal argument within the game affected ur game

I mean

after u started arguing it was hard to go back and read that objectively

It was the only way to break abi’s protection of cait

it wasn’t

2:38 p.m.

you just

2:38 p.m.

vote them

Yes it was lol

and ignore the defence

2:38 p.m.

it’s what I did

Ngekop

It was the only way to break abi’s protection of cait

so u agree this is a problem

She veto’ed cait from vote d1

that affected game

2:38 p.m.

and shouldn’t have

And abi was my only tr

lindauna

and ignore the defence

The thing is

2:39 p.m.

You werent voting cait before that

2:39 p.m.

Even when i voted her without drama

I fully intended to btw

And the stuff you say you sr’d from

2:39 p.m.

Her

I just didn’t vote her first

Came AFTER the pressure was applied

I think my scumhunting style is

2:39 p.m.

lure them into thinking you’re not voting them so they’re less on guard

2:40 p.m.

so you can see them try generate reads in the moment and etc

You even said at the time “idk the only thing i would dislike from cait is the odd progression you mentioned on abi but there are better votes imo”

rather than act under the pressure of potentially being sred

2:40 p.m.

yeah

And cait never gets pressured if abi defends her nmw

I didn’t clear them fully

That hard

I saw u and Cait as tvs

lindauna

I didn’t clear them fully

Yeah but you wouldnt vote her over anyone else

and I had u as town

lindauna

I saw u and Cait as tvs

Exactly

who do u think I’d vote

2:40 p.m.

lol

But that wouldnt have happened

2:41 p.m.

If i didnt go full on cait

2:41 p.m.

In the first place

I agree u needed to pressure

2:41 p.m.

Idt it needed to be personal on both sides

2:41 p.m.

lol

2:41 p.m.

bc ftr I agreed with what u we’re doing for the most part

2:42 p.m.

I had a case written out that I didn’t feel like presenting I think I’ve said it in my rolepm

lindauna

Idt it needed to be personal on both sides

It just got there

2:42 p.m.

It wasnt at first

This post game feels so awkward

I don’t think a player should make you feel bad by appealing to emotion every time u vote them basically

Danger?! Icet!

This post game feels so awkward

Why

the game itself was awkward

lindauna

I don’t think a player should make you feel bad by appealing to emotion every time u vote them basically

Well i agree

tbh

But idt this postgame is awkward

2:43 p.m.

Like we are just talking about the game

I feel like it needs to be said

Ngekop

Why

There's so much about town play and I'm just here saying AnimeThumbsup

without understanding anything

Congratulations winners! :>

Oh lol

I mean i do have a lot more to say

You can say it

analysis I never came around to presenting and stuff

2:44 p.m.

but eh

2:44 p.m.

another game

I mean

2:44 p.m.

Ate exists

cool first win here

Idt it like

I personally ignore ate

Should be banned other than

2:44 p.m.

When it goes too far

lindauna

I personally ignore ate

That’s cool

2:44 p.m.

Honestly

I think it’s just bad sportsmanship to use ate

The game was hard bc no one was particularly scummy

uh

2:45 p.m.

I had Cait luka IceT

2:45 p.m.

as my scumpool

2:45 p.m.

lol

lindauna

I had Cait luka IceT

Before the argument?

and later Abi

2:45 p.m.

abi was after

You sr’d cait?

for the Cait abi interaction yes

2:45 p.m.

u don’t tell scum u scumread them at SOD

2:45 p.m.

you present the case closer to EOD

Luka/icet did feel kinda

2:46 p.m.

TvS

2:46 p.m.

But like

yeah so

2:46 p.m.

this game had

Idk

a lot of scumtells

2:46 p.m.

lol

Eh i mean

Abi was just emotion throwing me off

As town it’s also fair to like

2:46 p.m.

Try to manipulate the game

2:46 p.m.

Into your favor

lindauna

Abi was just emotion throwing me off

Yeah but the stuff i gave to tr her even besides tone

2:47 p.m.

Imo was fair

2:47 p.m.

Like all her reads and engagement was explained and consistent

2:48 p.m.

Like it did feel like coming from town mindset imo

2:48 p.m.

Also like

2:48 p.m.

Town when ate’ing

2:48 p.m.

It kinda comes naturally yk

2:48 p.m.

Like

2:49 p.m.

You cant expect people to just be logical and dont have emotions when the game state has them like

2:49 p.m.

Under pressure

As for Abi my issue was

2:49 p.m.

I did tr them initially

Idk why town delayed this game way past needed

2:50 p.m.

Or mafia actually

2:50 p.m.

We could have ended this yesterday

I rlly wanted to tr abi but their reactions in thread were super super negtown like hard defending a pocket, vetoing a vote, self voting, and whatever the interaction with Cait was it got in the way of me being able to make a read bc I can’t follow their process to solve

Really don’t understand abbis play at all

Yeah

Danger!? Luka!

Really don’t understand abbis play at all

This

2:50 p.m.

is what I mean

No I’m talking about final day everything past there I understand BlueAnimeMad

2:51 p.m.

Ye tho I think she did some strange things

2:51 p.m.

This game was weird

I could tr their reasoning in thread intitially they used aggression as a means to advance gamestate

Danger!? Luka!

We could have ended this yesterday

I know

the mafia hc and asking to be voted is like

2:52 p.m.

what do u expect people to do when you claim scum

She thought

2:52 p.m.

You were tunneling her

I was not

2:52 p.m.

I was pressuring her

So she wanted to get it over with so we could move on fast

and even if I tunnelled her

2:52 p.m.

there are better ways to deal with it than claim mafia

lindauna

what do u expect people to do when you claim scum

That was really irrelevant

2:53 p.m.

It was already a lcoked win

I feel like her play was just rlly bizarre at some point i couldn’t rescind my sr

It didn’t matter then

i guess it depends on if u want a clean sweep

2:54 p.m.

I feel like it does matter in a way bc you’d learn from it

2:54 p.m.

but eh

It was auto and she thought it would be faster to vote her, skip, vote icet

ig fair

2:56 p.m.

I rushed bc I knew I wasn’t mafia

2:56 p.m.

I think I’d stop to read too if it was d2

You Didn’t need to read past d1 as soon as d2 starts it was an auto win

2:58 p.m.

The only thing preventing it is if I threw

clean sweep > lockwin gang

Danger!? Luka!

The only thing preventing it is if I threw

^^

anyway ggs

3:00 p.m.

nothing against anyone who played in this game just d1 was kinda frustrating

3:00 p.m.

hmu if I was too harsh or anything

i kinda liked d1 except for when abi told me she'd always vote me over cait

3:00 p.m.

that was both disappointing and tilting

lindauna

hmu if I was too harsh or anything

you never were lol, you just expressed your opinion

idk how games go but this is different from most communities I’ve played in

@Newcomer Game Host mafia chat?

huh

lindauna

idk how games go but this is different from most communities I’ve played in

hmm

I think disc is like kinda in between live chat mafia and forum which is nice

oh yeah

3:02 p.m.

i still like chat mafia

3:02 p.m.

but idt there are many like

3:02 p.m.

players there

depends on where u play ig

i still think this only had one argument that went far and like i kinda expected it to happen when i saw the playerlist

3:04 p.m.

i just joined bc izinzanity

I had no expectations lol

3:04 p.m.

and I was way less confident in my reads bc of the format difference

3:04 p.m.

+ the difference in how people acted when game started and few hours into day

3:04 p.m.

so that was like

3:05 p.m.

something to navigate ig

oh i mean it's kinda hard to get it started

3:06 p.m.

bc you start with nothing lol

wdym

well you have no info at the very beginning

3:10 p.m.

so you need to start generating content somehow

Thanks for hosting @Jal and @IZinzanity Prayge

3:25 p.m.

Could you add what roles the players had?

3:25 p.m.

Lindauna: I don't hold it against anyone Also Lindauna: Constantly shits on me Clearly you don't :P

Im upset at how the game went over a borderline personal issue

4:02 p.m.

but again I don’t care after the game

4:03 p.m.

I think more than one person was in the wrong here and idc after the game tbh, u can talk to me if u feel like there’s an issue and I’ll be happy to clear it up with u

Well I'm not rlly up to talk to you so no thanks

np

Ngekop

I had abi locktown

I still don't understand how...

I think your D1 start was pretty towny especially how you responded when people sred you

and her defending the town core she was forming and being consistent on it with fair reasoning on everyone but cait

Danger!? Luka!

Really don’t understand abbis play at all

Which part lol?

☆Princess Abigail☆

Which part lol?

you getting yourself lynched lol

Ngekop

It was auto and she thought it would be faster to vote her, skip, vote icet

To be specific fmpov Linduana was just gonna tunnel me over a day 1 defense that I admitted was for stupid reasons Thom basically openly acknowledged they were always voting me In My Head it's always obvs Ice or Linduana Killing me clears the paranoia on me and let's Luka jail Ice which solves the game 100% that night.

Ngekop

i kinda liked d1 except for when abi told me she'd always vote me over cait

Sorry ilu

4:25 p.m.

I do not regret a single thing I did this game except upsetting Nge I do not think the reaction to this game needs to be what it is here we won and everyone is acting like someone died or something.

^^

4:26 p.m.

my only regret is calling abi a joke which ofc she isnt

The only joke here is me

Ngekop

my only regret is calling abi a joke which ofc she isnt

I mean I usually am

Mel

The only joke here is me

a joke has to be funny bro sorry ❤️

I'll take that as a W

@Caitlin can you send invite to mafia chat?

4:35 p.m.

(pls)

I left it

4:36 p.m.

So no

4:36 p.m.

Spec chat was only spent on shit talking me so

4:36 p.m.

I saw no reason to stay

doesnt the link sent to you still applies?

Maybe

Caitlin

Spec chat was only spent on shit talking me so

wtf

4:36 p.m.

...

Caitlin

I saw no reason to stay

yeah i get you

Oh there was a spec chat

lol

I rejected spoilers myself

same

Mel

The only joke here is me

jokes* you forgot me

Caitlin

Spec chat was only spent on shit talking me so

pls it was not. i was commentating on the game as it was happening as it was lol

5:12 p.m.

you also failed to mention the parts I complimented certain plays of yours

5:12 p.m.

but sure

5:12 p.m.

ANYWAYS @Ngekop flop your reads were off

5:12 p.m.

luka carried

Adam

luka carried

what are you talking about

Adam

ANYWAYS @Ngekop flop your reads were off

i p much got cait d1

5:17 p.m.

she had 0 pressure before i said anything about her

Ngekop

what are you talking about

that was the joke

Ngekop

i p much got cait d1

well they were off d2

5:22 p.m.

poor mel

I mean

5:30 p.m.

I had the skill to role jailkeep

5:30 p.m.

So I basically csrtied

5:30 p.m.

Carried

Danger!? Luka!

I had the skill to role jailkeep

Can confirm. Our rng roller broke and told us Luka can't be anything less than jk

True!!!!

Adam

well they were off d2

d2 we had auto

6:24 p.m.

so like

Danger!? Luka!

Carried

lol

my d1 was fine tho

7:26 p.m.

I was right in 2/3 of my town and 1/2 of my scum MikuHeart

7:26 p.m.

act that isnt good

7:26 p.m.

but shush (edited)

@Danger!? Luka! why did you tr me

Danger?! Icet!

@Danger!? Luka! why did you tr me

I gaslight myself into thinking I just had confirmation bias

where spec chat

Caitlin

Spec chat was only spent on shit talking me so

this is slightly concerning

@Ngekop where’s mafia and spec chat

7:35 p.m.

Adam said they weren’t idk

7:36 p.m.

I wanna know how I did for a first game

https://discord.gg/A5fr9PZF

lindauna

I wanna know how I did for a first game

p well lol

7:56 p.m.

i had you town read until i got paranoid bc no one was particularly scum telling

7:56 p.m.

and you voted maf

Adam

well they were off d2

Yeah this was kinda annoying lol just because it’s a town win why was town not trying to play well anymore

lindauna

Yeah this was kinda annoying lol just because it’s a town win why was town not trying to play well anymore

i mean

9:18 p.m.

we werent throwing, but we werent stressing ourselves more into thinking deeper unnecessarily

9:18 p.m.

mafia should've conceded d2 but whatever

Ngekop

we werent throwing, but we werent stressing ourselves more into thinking deeper unnecessarily

we did think mel was most likely 2nd at that point so we just went with it given it was auto already

yeah why does town stop thinking before a lockwin lol

but we didnt

9:57 p.m.

lol

☆Princess Abigail☆

To be specific fmpov Linduana was just gonna tunnel me over a day 1 defense that I admitted was for stupid reasons Thom basically openly acknowledged they were always voting me In My Head it's always obvs Ice or Linduana Killing me clears the paranoia on me and let's Luka jail Ice which solves the game 100% that night.

ftr I wasn’t and I would’ve shifted to ice if u just convinced me

this game was so stressful but imo not in a bad way

11:33 p.m.

idt there was a way we couldve voted mafia d1 had all that not happened (sure, shouldnt be to that extent ever but that was better than nothing happening imo given we wouldve lost)

11:34 p.m.

bc if maf didnt get lynched d1

11:34 p.m.

idt we wouldve gotten those two both later given the distancing

Ngekop

this game was so stressful but imo not in a bad way

in the sense that afaik no hard feelings anywhere

it wasn’t a clean or good game i feel but the solve was pretty straightforward anyway idt town loses there

without the argument idk

11:48 p.m.

even you admitted

11:48 p.m.

icet was hard to be teamed with cait

we had the d1 luka icet cross

yeah but

11:49 p.m.

people started reading it as tv

11:49 p.m.

tvt*

if we all tried d2

+ they stopped sr'ing each other

I think it would’ve been a clean sweep

do note that if cait and icet were both alive, high chance that Luka woulda died even without claiming n2

11:50 p.m.

as they were checking nge, killing vee and Luka was the mafias third pr choice

I had a towncore of thom nge mel + vee dependent on cait bc they def weren’t aligned

lindauna

I think it would’ve been a clean sweep

idk

I didn’t even get to speak on d2

11:52 p.m.

bc town decided to turbo Mel

Jal

do note that if cait and icet were both alive, high chance that Luka woulda died even without claiming n2

^^

11:53 p.m.

it wouldnt had been a clean sweep either way unless we actually spent a fair amount of time/effort trying

yeah like

you even said abi maf over icet

it would’ve been if day 2 wasn’t a Mel turbo

Ngekop

you even said abi maf over icet

when Abi went at me I wasn’t parked on her

the thing is the game was turbo

lindauna

when Abi went at me I wasn’t parked on her

i know

11:53 p.m.

but my point i

11:53 p.m.

is*

11:54 p.m.

it isnt like y'all had icet as top vote

11:54 p.m.

only mel i think

11:54 p.m.

i just dont see much wrong with town doing that

I would’ve hard defended Mel there

like if any mafia should've just

11:55 p.m.

conceded

11:55 p.m.

yk

11:55 p.m.

like d2 it was auto

11:55 p.m.

just

we didn’t play to make optimal reads tbh xd

concede

11:55 p.m.

lindauna

we didn’t play to make optimal reads tbh xd

yeah that's not great from us

11:55 p.m.

bit selfish ngl

11:55 p.m.

we just went with mel bc we thought he was maf and it was auto nmw

that was my issue w the game d2 pm wards

tbf

11:56 p.m.

d3 i did intend to try

how was mel ever mafia there

and i was actually thinking in you/icet

lindauna

how was mel ever mafia there

well

11:56 p.m.

mel didnt have in us

11:56 p.m.

the effect he had on you yk

11:56 p.m.

about cait

11:56 p.m.

fmpov mel barely contributed to getting cait lynched d1

11:56 p.m.

while you and icet certainly did more

11:56 p.m.

and abi was just

if u isoed mel

not mafia

I think they’re

11:56 p.m.

clearly not maf there

11:56 p.m.

lol

well i mean

11:57 p.m.

cait made icet her own counter wagon

their frustration at the gamestate was NAI but the push on Cait was so town

and icet made cait be L-2

Ngekop

cait made icet her own counter wagon

I’d soft bus my partner if they’re the sr too I just wouldn’t vote them at eod

so it wasnt really intuitive

lindauna

I’d soft bus my partner if they’re the sr too I just wouldn’t vote them at eod

but that isnt soft bussing

11:57 p.m.

yeah exactly

11:57 p.m.

they did

11:57 p.m.

do that

11:57 p.m.

lol

if they had plié

11:57 p.m.

Plus

11:57 p.m.

Plur

11:58 p.m.

I wouldn’t vote there

11:58 p.m.

if they didn’t I would

yeah but you did vote cait

11:58 p.m.

icet voted after you

im p sure I was one of the later votes and like

you were 2nd

there at the point Cait would be a wagon

well when you voted you were 3rd

nah it was u vee then me (edited)

but then i unvoted

11:58 p.m.

yep

11:59 p.m.

then icet was 3rd

vee was clear if Cait flipped bc they never got off

yeah ik

icet and abi i didn’t tr

but icet became THIRD vote

bc of how late the votes were

when he voted

11:59 p.m.

yk

I think thread state was

like they still had a chance of lynching someone else

no matter what Cait was gonna be voted

idk

even if she wasn’t lynched she was a leading wagon

abi couldve been swayed to vote you

11:59 p.m.

same as thom

so icet staying there as a later vote (maybe 4th?) wasn’t rlly AI to me

he was 3rd tho

thom tres me

yeah ik but thom

12:00 a.m.

switches

oh right 4 was hammer

every 5 seconds

lindauna

oh right 4 was hammer

no

12:00 a.m.

5 was hammer

ah

out of the 5 votes the order was

u were on and off

12:00 a.m.

right

vee

12:00 a.m.

you

12:00 a.m.

icet

12:00 a.m.

luka

12:00 a.m.

abi

but I think u were the first then u switched back

12:00 a.m.

or something

i wouldve voted

Ngekop

I’ll hate myself

when i said this

idk voting out someone who’s probs gonna die at a point they’re a leading sr isn’t a tr

i was about to vote cait

12:01 a.m.

lol

yeah like

but luka beat me to it

Cait was always getting voted there

Scum did a good job distancing this game one mista they should have killed me n1 cuz I’m pr

Danger!? Luka!

Scum did a good job distancing this game one mista they should have killed me n1 cuz I’m pr

yep

12:01 a.m.

this

lindauna

Cait was always getting voted there

No if cait doenst get hammered they can do things

Luka being a secondary SR probably helped them not get lynched (edited)

they had the 1/3 shot

They were just hammered tho

lindauna

Luka being a secondary SR probably helped them not get lynched (edited)

yeah but

just picked the worst 1 of 3 to hit

yea

if luka had votes piled on

lindauna

Luka being a secondary SR probably helped them not get lynched (edited)

Who was Sring me that doesn’t sr me every game I play with them

you either get him lynched

I think my d1 was townie

or get a pr outed

12:02 a.m.

so you can kill at night

12:02 a.m.

and not have autoloss

ur d1 was null ish to me

Danger!? Luka!

I think my d1 was townie

you were

12:02 a.m.

flip floppy so much in my head

but in ur interactions with icet icet looked worse

not you being flip flopping as in how you acted

12:02 a.m.

just like my read on you

12:03 a.m.

was flip floppy

Thom was super hard to read

Lol

every time they say something

lindauna

Thom was super hard to read

he always is

they counter themselves

but imo my point to think he was town

12:03 a.m.

was fair

at some point I could see the reasoning behind stuff he said as town

not 100% solid and clearing

lindauna

Thom was super hard to read

I give up on reading them its kinda always just. Them tunneling on me and frustrating to even try to read them

but fair

I think when I asked Thom to explain his reads it read town to me

12:03 a.m.

bc

12:04 a.m.

his process was something I could follow and his arguments weren’t based on assumptions which was my issue w Caitlin

12:04 a.m.

Like Caitlin saw me leaving thread and having different reads after 6 hours as scum even when I explained those reads and how I arrived at that conclusion

mhm

12:04 a.m.

with me also was like

12:04 a.m.

stuff thom did

12:04 a.m.

made little sense as town

12:04 a.m.

but like

And the fact that this all operated on the assumption I was shifting reads and hedging instead of re evaluating my reads

no sense at all as mafia

Whereas Thom saw it as a genuine re evaluation of my thought s

12:05 a.m.

so

Ngekop

made little sense as town

The tracker claim d2 was rly dumb it didn’t do anything but

i had you tr'd

And I was mech good still pushing me is weird

until i didnt have

12:05 a.m.

anywhere to look at

I was p sure it’s thom nge town

Danger!? Luka!

The tracker claim d2 was rly dumb it didn’t do anything but

yeah i didnt get it either

lindauna

I was p sure it’s thom nge town

i was p sure abi/thom

12:05 a.m.

town

Mel town for how they responded to the d1 thing and joined the convo

12:05 a.m.

luka mech town

well yeah but that was d2

abi was a tr for me until they started being super negtown to a point I couldn’t read them

i just thought like

12:06 a.m.

when cait flipped ofc

I think I was always gonna go luka icet if Cait flipped and I said this on d1

if you already did all that bad stuff on yourself

12:06 a.m.

defending her so hard

12:06 a.m.

why admitting you arent sure and even point scummy stuff from her

It was just icet from my pov but I didn’t even get to speak on d2 which was annoying

i think that def allowed for more votes to pile on herr

12:06 a.m.

her*

12:07 a.m.

i think people were too scared to vote cait

12:07 a.m.

not only bc of cait

12:07 a.m.

but bc of abi as well

just vote her

until she stopped hard defending

idk

12:07 a.m.

yeah

lindauna

just vote her

i did so

u unvoted (edited)

and no one followed me and i just go threats on me (edited)

12:07 a.m.

yeah that was bad

lindauna

u unvoted (edited)

yeah but way later

12:07 a.m.

when i just

12:08 a.m.

was done at the moment

12:08 a.m.

not done as in screw y'all

12:08 a.m.

but done as it

Proud my read on abbi / nge was correct smug

My read on cait was wrong but it wasn’t town lock like the above two so w/e

too stressed over it and needing a break

Danger!? Luka!

Proud my read on abbi / nge was correct smug

My read on cait was wrong but it wasn’t town lock like the above two so w/e

i think you and icet were

12:08 a.m.

equally as hard to read for me

I didn’t even get to read….

you being pr makes sense

bc d2 hammer

again sorry for that

12:08 a.m.

it was just selfish

What was again

bc it was auto so we didnt wait for people

Danger!? Luka!

What was again

speed voting mel

Oh it

before lindauna or abi could talk

Didn’t matter

12:09 a.m.

It was auto

yeah

It was just quicker

well

12:09 a.m.

it wouldve been quicker if mafia conceded

12:09 a.m.

but ye

jesus you guys still talking about this

No clue why icy didn’t concede

12:09 a.m.

But he’s cute so

wtf is there to talk about

Danger!? Luka!

But he’s cute so

indeed

Tommy2Hands

jesus you guys still talking about this

bro why are you upset over us talking about it

12:09 a.m.

we're not fighting or anything

12:10 a.m.

lol

12:10 a.m.

we're just chatting

im not upset just suprised

lindauna

and if Caitlin flips maf I’d say it implicates Luka/IceT

This (edited)

lindauna

This (edited)

yeah

i was definitely the mvp this game

...

12:10 a.m.

no

12:10 a.m.

idts

12:10 a.m.

bro what

i was always voting icet there if luka claimed

idek if there was an mvp

if not me then who

I didn’t even get to play d2

every single town voted a mafia d1 except me

i was the first one to call out cait

but i pushed cait and got the vote on her to be a thing

everyone pushed

lindauna

everyone pushed

before me no one did fr

12:11 a.m.

even you said smth like

12:11 a.m.

"the only thing on cait would be her progression on abi but outside idt she's been scummy and there are better votes"

I did sr cait

honestly the thing is

I don’t openly say it

12:11 a.m.

lol

well i mean

it didnt matter if we lynched cait or not

Tommy2Hands

it didnt matter if we lynched cait or not

if we didnt lynch a mafia d1

12:12 a.m.

we were probs losing

12:12 a.m.

bro

lol

I didn’t get to play bc of a turbo lol

not a chance

12:12 a.m.

7v2 is so incredibly town sided

yes a chance

12:12 a.m.

only i tr'd you

Tommy2Hands

7v2 is so incredibly town sided

nah it’s winnable

and lindauna by the end ig

town getting lynched day 1 would have been fine

as maf

anything is winnable

it’s just having a Jo

12:12 a.m.

Jk

Tommy2Hands

7v2 is so incredibly town sided

i have never lost as maf in these setups

made it lockwin

Ngekop

idek if there was an mvp

I’d argue this game was mostly just like. A fine game Nobody stood out as playing really really amazingly Aside from abbis weird defense of cait I’d give her mvp prob

people here just dont do the basic shit

12:13 a.m.

with 7v2 games

idt anyone here played in a way that they deserve a mvp

if you do the basic stuff its 70% town win every time

lindauna

idt anyone here played in a way that they deserve a mvp

i defer honestly

12:13 a.m.

i think everyone played well

12:13 a.m.

in a way that could be mvp worthy

basic stuff being: lynching by wagonmics

claiming mafia to hammer was not mvp play

from town at least

lindauna

claiming mafia to hammer was not mvp play

well

Abbi got 2/2 correct srs(ignoring her defense of cait again) and was obvious town d1 with 2/2 actual town locks being town

i definitely am mvp

didnt matter by then bc it was auto, it was just annoying

and the whole of town deciding it’s a lockwin and not reading game

abi also made the game near unplayable day 1

was a massive throw

Tommy2Hands

abi also made the game near unplayable day 1

^^

lindauna

was a massive throw

...

12:14 a.m.

it's not throwing

this game was too messy for anyone to deserve a mvp I feel like it’s partly just

it was speeding

no one cared enough

Not at all She defended cait but that doesn’t really make the game unplayable

no need to think, just go with it

to make reads

the nature in which it happened was nasty dude

after d1

straight up

Tommy2Hands

the nature in which it happened was nasty dude

agree

lindauna

and the whole of town deciding it’s a lockwin and not reading game

We did not decide it was a lock win There was no way for evils to win unless I throw, and I’m obviously not going to

im not sure how anyone can be okay with what they did, i am too new here to say anything but the behavior was really unacceptable imo

^^

12:15 a.m.

what luka said

Tommy2Hands

the nature in which it happened was nasty dude

You’re right but I think that’s cuz town was trying to hard lol Just lay back and take the W

I’ve never seen this kinda behaviour be acceptable in any other community

After d2 nobody needed to say anything why were chats active

idk it was like

12:15 a.m.

a weird game

12:15 a.m.

but I’ve never played here

lindauna

I’ve never seen this kinda behaviour be acceptable in any other community

What why not It was literally a mechanical win in every sense

lindauna

I’ve never seen this kinda behaviour be acceptable in any other community

it was intense but i dont see where did the unacceptable part was

no I mean d1 drama

anyways

the worst part was "this game is/you are a joke"

lindauna

no I mean d1 drama

Oh sleep

abah

i think if we lynch town day 1 we still lose since IceT and Caitlin were going to be revealed on the day 1 wagon for sure. Caitlin was basically already out.

there werent personal attacks outside of that

12:16 a.m.

just being insistent

Tommy2Hands

i think if we lynch town day 1 we still lose since IceT and Caitlin were going to be revealed on the day 1 wagon for sure. Caitlin was basically already out.

true

Ngekop

the worst part was "this game is/you are a joke"

I am a joke

and be like omfg constantly

Tommy2Hands

i think if we lynch town day 1 we still lose since IceT and Caitlin were going to be revealed on the day 1 wagon for sure. Caitlin was basically already out.

"we still lose"

12:16 a.m.

?

the neighbor mason whatever stuff is mostly concerning to you but to me and lind its not an issue

12:16 a.m.

we still win i mean

I think we had a solid towncore

Tommy2Hands

the neighbor mason whatever stuff is mostly concerning to you but to me and lind its not an issue

i had to claim mason

theres just no way that day 1 lynch doesnt reveal both wolves

Ngekop

just being insistent

I don’t think I was like this aside from with abbi but They were obviously town in my defense

we weren’t gonna lose

bc i was pr telling too hard

Tommy2Hands

theres just no way that day 1 lynch doesnt reveal both wolves

agree

12:17 a.m.

why is Thom playing well after game

12:17 a.m.

bro

claiming mason was the only way mafia could get off my back

do it in game

you really didnt have to do anything we could have played the game as mountainous and still won it

bc they knew there were no masons

12:17 a.m.

in the setup

I wanna see mafia chat is there

lindauna

why is Thom playing well after game

LMFAO

A reason why it isn’t posted

I genuinely think the mason claim was bad LOL like u out the actual prs

it is

12:17 a.m.

posted

12:17 a.m.

lol

Danger!? Luka!

A reason why it isn’t posted

It is

Oh

lindauna

I genuinely think the mason claim was bad LOL like u out the actual prs

nah

search for link

Where

i clearly

in this chat

was "intending to die at night"

its crazy how irrelevant the mason claim actually was to the game

if a pr outed themselves

tho for some reason u didn’t die

it's on them

12:18 a.m.

honestly

im surprised

lindauna

tho for some reason u didn’t die

bc

12:18 a.m.

that got the mafia

12:18 a.m.

off my back

12:18 a.m.

lol

i really think the setup needs to remove

12:18 a.m.

trakcer

i was almost convinced cait was mafia

as mafia wouldn’t they just kill pr lol (edited)

and i knew as mafia they would 100% kill me before the mason claim

ur basically conf pr

12:18 a.m.

u pushed Cait out

lindauna

as mafia wouldn’t they just kill pr lol (edited)

but i claimed a pr that didnt exist

12:18 a.m.

lol

u were never gonna be sred

and mafia knew

12:19 a.m.

there was no mason in game

12:19 a.m.

so i was clearly fakeclaiming it

I think a regular townie won’t claim mason bc it risks one of the real prs outing

lindauna

I think a regular townie won’t claim mason bc it risks one of the real prs outing

yeah but

12:19 a.m.

a pr is kinda less likely bc

and they could be cced bc they don’t know setup

12:19 a.m.

or sred

it also puts a target on your back

only a pr can get away with mason claim

and still risks a pr getting outed

I feel

masoning a wolf hm

i mean

12:20 a.m.

it worked for me to live

i dont think its too bad either way

Tommy2Hands

i really think the setup needs to remove

This setup has been tested numerous times for balance This game was sad cuz scum killed a cit n1 and got voted out d1 which unless setup is scum sided af is hard nmw with less than 10

it’s eh

cait did leave as legacy vee kill

12:20 a.m.

over me

12:20 a.m.

bc of the fakeclaim

remove the trackers and they're good

so like

12:20 a.m.

imo that works

the setup we played is like, ok i guess

??

vee was locktown if Cait flipped maf the kill made sense

12:20 a.m.

even if not pr

lindauna

ftr I wasn’t and I would’ve shifted to ice if u just convinced me

I really do not think anything I said would have made that taken

the setup we played was probs the worst for mafia

12:20 a.m.

lol

town has way too much fire power in the other setups

Happen*

☆Princess Abigail☆

I really do not think anything I said would have made that taken

u have never played with me

well yea jailkeeper is bullshit

lindauna

even if not pr

not really

12:21 a.m.

not on setup B

I've played a LOT of mafia

you gotta aim for pr

Like

a lot of the time I push hard im not convinced of the push

12:21 a.m.

so

Hundreds of games

jejjing hard

if u can change my mind

bc every setup has a pr that clears someone scummy

I know a losing battle lol

I’d change my vote

☆Princess Abigail☆

I know a losing battle lol

luka and i were

I wasn’t tunnelling u to death I was pressuring u to get ur genuine reactions

never voting you

12:21 a.m.

but ok

yea lol

I did it to Thom too

if people just slowed down we would have come to icet immediatly

I dunno why we are all still acting like this game was the end of the world lol

He reacted as town

12:22 a.m.

no one is

Tommy2Hands

if people just slowed down we would have come to icet immediatly

i was down to vote icet

12:22 a.m.

that day

it was the worst game of my life.........

Im just saying it could’ve been solved d2

12:22 a.m.

if we spoke

12:22 a.m.

gn

Tommy2Hands

it was the worst game of my life.........

...

12:22 a.m.

lol

lindauna

gn

what

12:22 a.m.

isnt it like

this is unironically like

morning for you

12:22 a.m.

one of the worst games I played

what

and I’ve played uh

12:22 a.m.

in 4 places

tis what it tis at the end of the day

One of the best games I've ever played

i have played in like

12:22 a.m.

uh one sec

you got the big emotional nut off

6 places

12:23 a.m.

?

I’ve never seen that in a game before lol

i think

lindauna

Im just saying it could’ve been solved d2

We. Had a conf win

^^

12:23 a.m.

why thinking

12:23 a.m.

when you already won

it was wrapped up from the day1 votes

perfect solve > conf win is the trend in most communities

where u playin

lindauna

in 4 places

I’ve played 13+ idk

well we didnt vote randomly

most people just take the win cause they r scared to loser

this wasnt even a bad hame honestly

showdown MU mafia.gg discord

like at all

lindauna

showdown MU mafia.gg discord

EM UM BM MU mgg discord

i was supposed to join a smogon game

lindauna

perfect solve > conf win is the trend in most communities

Those communities suck I’m not going to spend 30 hours more to look prettier

im joining the next smogon one

but I ended up not

hop in

which one

12:24 a.m.

dm me

there isnt a signups yet

12:24 a.m.

ill dm you when there is one

I was gonna join eli loves matrices

but yeah idt this game was bad at all idgi

its good but there are some old people and their brains dont work as well so they suck

town played well, mafia didnt play badly

lindauna

showdown MU mafia.gg discord

Anarchic tgdm tg discord mafia unofficial mafia.gg tos Wolvesville wolflord tol nerdcord fol(?) are the ones I can name

Tommy2Hands

its good but there are some old people and their brains dont work as well so they suck

LOL WHICH ONES

Odd the top of my head

celever

oh yea I played today

12:25 a.m.

Tos

i have had easily 500 worse games

was way too easy

than this one

rlly

Ngekop

i have had easily 500 worse games

I’ve had like 3k worse games

12:25 a.m.

Probably

i don’t have a game count

lets not pretend the game was totally okay

probably at least 200

The game was fine lol

in turbos

Danger!? Luka!

I’ve had like 3k worse games

probs same

In turbos I have at least 4k cumulative

but i wouldnt say easily

This game was not fine lmfao

Probably more

yes it was lol

idt a game where 2 ppl wanna sub out and no one feels like playing anymore is fine

it's not even among top5 the worst i've played in this server

lindauna

This game was not fine lmfao

Why do you want to dedicate 60 hours of your life for the graveyard to look prettier and a badge that says you did it instead of just winning

Abigail, you say a bunch of insane stuff not based in reality (omg everyone is gonna vote me), freaking out and being super emotional in the thread, a lot of toxic back and forths with people.

lindauna

idt a game where 2 ppl wanna sub out and no one feels like playing anymore is fine

i mean every game has like

This game was literally fine and everyone acting like it's the end of the world is 10x more demoralizing than being told I'm a joke in the middle of the game

2 replacements avg

12:27 a.m.

i think

See

Lmfao

Everything that happens to you = valid everything that you did = not a big deal

☆Princess Abigail☆

This game was literally fine and everyone acting like it's the end of the world is 10x more demoralizing than being told I'm a joke in the middle of the game

^^

☆Princess Abigail☆

This game was literally fine and everyone acting like it's the end of the world is 10x more demoralizing than being told I'm a joke in the middle of the game

This game was fine yeah

ily

12:27 a.m.

abi

Ngekop

2 replacements avg

like bc people are busy or because people are demotivated

well

12:27 a.m.

if nge and luka are just gonna say it was okay

lindauna

like bc people are busy or because people are demotivated

both?

Tommy2Hands

Abigail, you say a bunch of insane stuff not based in reality (omg everyone is gonna vote me), freaking out and being super emotional in the thread, a lot of toxic back and forths with people.

I’ve never noticed abbi being toxic

then no point in me saying anything

12:28 a.m.

just how things go around here i guess

I feel u thom

Tommy2Hands

Abigail, you say a bunch of insane stuff not based in reality (omg everyone is gonna vote me), freaking out and being super emotional in the thread, a lot of toxic back and forths with people.

See my problem is that this is wholly unnecessary to say to me

i just didnt see

12:28 a.m.

any toxicity lol

☆Princess Abigail☆

See my problem is that this is wholly unnecessary to say to me

this is the issue yes

there were like

^^

clashes

a lot of such unnecessary things took away from good gameplay

its just the total lack of self reflection

i mean idk

Tommy2Hands

then no point in me saying anything

If you have a problem with the player maybe ranting about it to that player in question in a main chat and expecting other players not to bring up Anything isn’t the best idea If you truly have a problem contact the mods, if you don’t do even that you can’t say “that’s just how things go around here”

Nothing that happened in this game is insane or bad or out of the ordinary in mafia or even remotely one of the bad things I've experienced in the game

how is this ranting?

luka and vee had 0 conflicts and idt they believe this game wasnt fine

Tommy2Hands

its just the total lack of self reflection

I’m used to being called slurs for executing n2

why would i run to a mod when i can just talk to them

idt it’s a problem with any individual- a lot of things happened in game that took away from good gameplay and those things shouldn’t happen

Danger!? Luka!

I’m used to being called slurs for executing n2

this is bs wtf

thats tos

Tommy2Hands

why would i run to a mod when i can just talk to them

bc you honestly dont seem like knowing how to do this

lindauna

this is bs wtf

Town of Salem

12:29 a.m.

At its worst

and i mean this

12:30 a.m.

respectfully fr

I’ve never seen tos

like i love playingn with you

be that bad

and imo you're fun af

i think its different when its someone who can interact with you more as a person

lol

but yeah you sometimes like

as opposed to an anonymous tos game

dont know how to bring stuff up properly to people

what great advice nge

lindauna

I’ve never seen tos

It used to be before trial was big It was like really really horrible They did an account purge ti stop it, ton of old forum users accounts were destroyed

damn

12:31 a.m.

I played tos like after I got into mafia tho

12:31 a.m.

I found it too easy

brag

not much analysis

Tos is a mech solving game only

i havent tried

12:31 a.m.

tos

yeah

You don’t need any social s

Ngekop

tos

Don’t

but i dont really intend on playing it

being able to solve beyond mech automatically makes u good at tos (edited)

Danger!? Luka!

Don’t

yeah im not

its dead now

I have 800 hours on steam alone I’m educated I can tell you game is bad

lindauna

being able to solve beyond mech automatically makes u good at tos (edited)

yep

12:31 a.m.

i do however think

12:31 a.m.

being good with mechanics is also

12:31 a.m.

a skill

me and my friends used to run the town of salem

Tommy2Hands

its dead now

It’s not you can get lobbies 99% of the time within a minute

Danger!? Luka!

I have 800 hours on steam alone I’m educated I can tell you game is bad

I found out within my first 5 hours tbh

which is why i think mountainous isnt necessarily the purest form of mafia

lindauna

I found out within my first 5 hours tbh

Yes but it’s my most played game on steam I’m cool

i agree fro

I like nilla

i do like it

12:32 a.m.

dont get me wrong

i think there is room for both pure solving and mech solving and both are important

Love you all

it’s purely solving

but imo being skilled at mechs

12:32 a.m.

is fine

and abigail, there really is no hard feelings

my favorite

☆Princess Abigail☆

Love you all

wait

12:32 a.m.

why are you saying this

☆Princess Abigail☆

Love you all

u too no hard feelings u played well

like if you are leaving

didn’t mean to push u out of the game

you're leaving the discussion only, right?

I did have an issue with everything but if nge and luka are saying its okay, then I will accept it.

not the server or anything

12:33 a.m.

Ngekop

but imo being skilled at mechs

In a sever I’m in(anarchic) people refuse to social read or do anything social and it’s annoying

I am just one person after all

12:33 a.m.

and you have history here, not me

Ngekop

like if you are leaving

Wait plz no

Tommy2Hands

I did have an issue with everything but if nge and luka are saying its okay, then I will accept it.

ur opinion is as valid as their opinion and ftr I agree with u

Abbi is fun

^^

well my opinion is right but yea

Tommy2Hands

I did have an issue with everything but if nge and luka are saying its okay, then I will accept it.

dude

Tommy2Hands

and you have history here, not me

I don’t have much history here

us not agreeing

sometimes things are more important than being right

doesnt make you wrong

12:33 a.m.

lmfao

u can just talk to a mod

Ye that’s true

doesnt make us wrong either

Ngekop

you're leaving the discussion only, right?

For now I can't leave the server I would have already if I didn't sign up for another game

☆Princess Abigail☆

For now I can't leave the server I would have already if I didn't sign up for another game

oh

12:33 a.m.

:(

hf

Seems impossible they will accept they did something wrong

?

abi

☆Princess Abigail☆

For now I can't leave the server I would have already if I didn't sign up for another game

You’re fun this is so sad You mainly play on mu MenharaQuestion

who's "they"

Abbi

Danger!? Luka!

You’re fun this is so sad You mainly play on mu MenharaQuestion

same

12:34 a.m.

oh only one person

12:34 a.m.

idk why i thought you meant luka and i

12:34 a.m.

and i was like im ok with me ig but wtf did luka even do

I never do anything wrong I am a genius a smart one

MU is intense af

Ngekop

and i was like im ok with me ig but wtf did luka even do

I can get really toxic at some times

12:35 a.m.

It never happened here yet tho

I think I’m bad at MU bc of the high post count lol

Danger!? Luka!

I never do anything wrong I am a genius a smart one

you have one wrong thing tho...being like...bragging about this F

If someone could tell me exactly what I did wrong instead of just vaguely shouting that I'm toxic and a horrible person I'd probably listen

i used to be like that but i not longer am arrogant so i removed my sole defect from me

12:35 a.m.

now im perfect

12:35 a.m.

And yes Luka I mainly play on MU

☆Princess Abigail☆

If someone could tell me exactly what I did wrong instead of just vaguely shouting that I'm toxic and a horrible person I'd probably listen

again just clashing

☆Princess Abigail☆

If someone could tell me exactly what I did wrong instead of just vaguely shouting that I'm toxic and a horrible person I'd probably listen

no one said either of those things

Ngekop

you have one wrong thing tho...being like...bragging about this F

True I kinda hate peoples who refuse to admit when they’re wrong just irks me

MU and FoL

Ngekop

now im perfect

I just think your argument with nge affected the game badly

Commonly

and neither of u were in the right

lindauna

I just think your argument with nge affected the game badly

how tho

and it distracted from good play

☆Princess Abigail☆

MU and FoL

Oh I’m in an FoL game rn yay

lindauna

and neither of u were in the right

we were both right tho

lindauna

no one said either of those things

Not directly

no one’s inferring you’re toxic and horrible at worst it was a bad game and mistakes were made

My argument with nge is the sole reason Cait died d1

main*

12:37 a.m.

not sole

12:37 a.m.

but ye

Fine main reason

vee wouldnt have voted, abi wouldnt have voted

That town got an auto win

icet wouldnt have been forced to vote

12:37 a.m.

luka wouldve probs voted someone else

It is the main reason that I stopped trying to protect my gf for a day

I am not a fan of trying to call someone out and then being told I am attacking their girlfriend, attacking them personally, etc. etc.

☆Princess Abigail☆

That town got an auto win

oh true that also

If you think i did this just go to the mods and settle it there

And killing Cait gave nge his MOJO back d2

the reason i didnt get killed as pr next night

12:38 a.m.

^^

Which was

12:38 a.m.

Also

12:38 a.m.

Good

because in my eyes I didnt do anything and im just having these crazy words thrown at me

12:38 a.m.

so to speak

i think what was not great from you

12:38 a.m.

was the timing where you said things

12:39 a.m.

thom

You all literally did attack my girlfriend lol

☆Princess Abigail☆

You all literally did attack my girlfriend lol

idt he did...

Where?

12:39 a.m.

seriously please show me

we were after her for being mafia in a game where you vote out mafia

I'm not about to scroll through 2000000000 posts lol

not after her as a person

12:39 a.m.

there’s a difference

you are just making shit up

12:39 a.m.

stop lying

No I'm fucking not

but calling her unhelpful+scummy the moment where you did it @Tommy2Hands

she rolled mafia bro

wasnt great

Cool

12:39 a.m.

She rolled mafia

Ngekop

but calling her unhelpful+scummy the moment where you did it @Tommy2Hands

???

☆Princess Abigail☆

You all literally did attack my girlfriend lol

Don’t know if this is referring to me but sorry if I did

in my defense i was reading past in the chat and not in the present

12:39 a.m.

catching up

I’d anyone else rolled mafia

lindauna

???

the timing where this happened

I’d call them unhelpful and scummy too

Treat her like a fucking human being

how am i supposed to know there is a personal feud in a fucking mafia game?

was particularly bad

Bro it’s a mafia game no one was personally attacking Caitlin

12:40 a.m.

Unhelpful and scummy are game terms

lindauna

Bro it’s a mafia game no one was personally attacking Caitlin

i agree with this

Danger!? Luka!

Don’t know if this is referring to me but sorry if I did

Nah I love you Luka

everyone is treating her like a human being

I love everyone

lindauna

Unhelpful and scummy are game terms

i agree with this

you need to explain yourself

Actually

im saying like

12:40 a.m.

social common sense

You weren't there Luka

there was no need to say that

if you're going to say this type of shit it needs to be backed up or you're just shitting on people for no reason

and saying it at that exact moment

and you did this all game too

wasnt the best

Tommy2Hands

everyone is treating her like a human being

No

O ic I don’t really know what this convo is about so that adds up

PLEASE show us where that wasnt the case (edited)

lmfao

☆Princess Abigail☆

Nah I love you Luka

<3

i wonder if mel is reading all this

no I think people need to seperate the game from their personal relationships outside the game because no one had anything against Caitlin beyond her rolling mafia and that’s just the nature of the game

and if he is i wonder if he will stop it soon

we can just ask Caitlin themselves tbh im not sure why we need abi to doo it lol

Ngekop

i wonder if mel is reading all this

He would have already stopped it

Again I'm not about to scroll through 2000000 posts to prove a point I brought up in the moment

no one hates u or nge or Caitli (edited)

Danger!? Luka!

He would have already stopped it

should we ping him?

Because I know where the conversation goes anyways lol

Ngekop

should we ping him?

Probably

lindauna

no one hates u or nge or Caitli (edited)

this statement is fake

oh yea i do too abigail

this is literally just a game

real in the gaame probs

no one hates u

12:42 a.m.

bro

12:42 a.m.

like

in these 9p

how

probs not

is this false

but im so sure

it starts with us trying to tell you you did something wrong, and you totally ignoring it and saying we treated you and your gf like monsters

there are people who hate me and cait at least

12:42 a.m.

yeah ok @Danger!? Luka! i agree

12:42 a.m.

guys

Thom you have a problem with me as a person you have all game and you just won't admit it

stop this

well I feel like within the game people treated Caitlin as a scumread and Abigail/nge as unhelpful town

it's just different viewpoints over smth

I don’t think it’s personal

??? what kinda problem

lindauna

no one hates u or nge or Caitli (edited)

When I was hosting a game somegody once left st thread and removed the player role from themselves so they aren’t pinged At every start of day and end of day henceforth I made a point to ping the alive m role then him I think he hates me

LOL

12:43 a.m.

that’s fucking funny

i think you are caitlin are fine people and its fun to play with you guys

Ngekop

there are people who hate me and cait at least

I actually can’t see how you guys are so likable

even with the bullshit its still whatever at the end of the day

12:43 a.m.

everything passes with time

@☆Princess Abigail☆ imo it's fair to say they didnt mean to personally attack anyone

Yeah no you don't Every time I said anything you had to say something back to me